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arsene york-hunt
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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
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"irons, There you go, a false controversy created by a need to identify differently. I hope they/them think it was worth because I/He/Him do not see the point."
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"irons, There you go, a false controversy created by a need to identify differently. I hope they/them think it was worth because I/He/Him do not see the point."
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"Branded Quinn was female. And now identifies as non-binary. So that's why there has been minimal fuss, I would imagine."
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"In their opening match against Nigeria, Canada midfielder Quinn became the first out transgender player at a Fifa World Cup. Like their style of play, it was done with minimal fuss. Quinn is a key part of Canada's midfield, their place as the midfield anchor crucial as the Olympic champions aim to add the 2023 Fifa Women's World Cup trophy to their cabinet. They played the full 90 minutes against Nigeria. The result was a goalless draw - but the Canadian number five's role created history. Quinn came out as non-binary in September 2020, dropping their old first name, asking to be known only by a mononym - a name composed of only one word - and saying they would use the pronouns 'they/them'. They have been an important figure for the national set-up since making their senior international debut in 2014, when they became team-mates with players who had shown them there was a future in football. ""Seeing the women's national team and fortunately being able to interact with some of them was hugely important for me in understanding that there was a pathway for me,"" they told Streets of Toronto before this tournament. Now, Quinn is looking to help drive their country's bid for glory just as they did at the Tokyo Olympics. However, the significance of their gender identity - especially given the ongoing and often fraught conversation about transgender athletes - cannot be ignored. ""It's ground-breaking, historic,"" Har Johal, a Canadian freelance journalist who has covered the national team since 2012 and is working at her third World Cup, told BBC Sport. ""It shows people who watch sport that you can be non-binary and still play fantastic sport. ""Quinn is a great footballer and amazing person. Happy and comfortable, that's all you want to be as a professional athlete to play your best."" They is a fucking cheat"
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Fifth Column 2:31 Tue Jul 25 Re: Woke watch Agreed. BTW. Is there historical data on violence and abuse of men and women that suggest any trends?
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Let Den Perry sort it out.
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"A 26 year old man in Scotland assaulted a 54 year old woman at a ""let women speak"" event which are where women gather in public to speak about the reduction in their rights in relation to men in dresses claiming to be women. The bloke hit her full in the face with a placard and punched her. The police nicked him for assault and gave him... a warning. Imagine a 26 year old man had assaulted a 56 year old trans woman at a trans pride event. 100% it would have been taken to court as a hate crime. The Police do love men in dresses but women, not so much."
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"Branded I think the logical conclusion of the argument is that ""wokeism"" to use the term is an inevitable result of the feminisation of parts of society that influence decisions in the public realm eg law, policies of companies etc And men ""railing"" against that may well be a result in terms of men having a knee jerk reaction against anything, even reasonable policies. However, again if ""railing against the trends"" is a euphemism for men hitting or sexually assaulting women then no I don't think the article suggests that is the case."
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"""""TalkTV presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer also weighed in, tweeting: 'Yeah, sure, what all women and girls are looking for when they're naked in a changing room is a big angry man who demands to be in there with them because he's dressed as a woman. Uh huh.' """""
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12333323/Furious-trans-woman-blasts-hotel-spa-staff-asked-wanted-use-unisex-changing-rooms-says-experience-spoilt-day.html the madness continues.
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The article isn't specifically about Woke but more about the pacification and institutionalisation of the Western human condition that has been feminised and that the feminisation of Western humans isn't necessarily a good thing. There are observed negative results. Some of which might lead to Wokism or also men's active railing against the trends.
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"Woke watch taken over who as well, all these locked threads"
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"Branded if you're talking about some of the ""woke"" stuff generally on this thread and ""allyship"" ideas then yes I think that article has some merit. It's not relevant to domestic violence stats but I don't think that is what you were talking about."
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"The BBC has apologised to Nigel Farage over its inaccurate report about why his account at Coutts bank was closed. On 4 July, the BBC reported Mr Farage no longer met the financial requirements for Coutts, citing a source familiar with the matter. The former UKIP leader later obtained a Coutts report which indicated his political views were also considered. Mr Farage said he accepted the apologies ""with good grace"", but said questions for Coutts remained."
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"Fifth You may be interested in this essay. Its trying to find a narrative around how we got here. I think its got some interesting ideas. https://unherd.com/2023/07/the-sexual-holy-war-is-coming-for-you/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&tl_period_type=3&mc_cid=13bca4beec&mc_eid=41e264a586 “Whatever else it means, being a responsible man today would seem to involve a tricky double task: to be respectful and protective of women in private, and to confidently disregard women’s tears in public. This would be made easier if women — the silent majority of them who probably value self-reliance — did likewise, forming an alliance with men against a metastasising force of moral orthopaedics that diminishes us all.”"
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*rape not tape. Poxy autocorrect
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*In English law
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"Surface Yes I'm English law you can only commit tape with a penis. Women can technically be guilty of it if they effectively assist a man to rape someone. Just to be clear close to 99% of sexual offences are committed by men. Not rapes, I mean all sexual offences. Ministry of Justice figures that are publicly available. So yes it is very rare. And yes I used to work for the Police on charging decisions for DA and sexual offences for two years. In the USA the stats are almost identical on sexual offences so it's not only an English thing."
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Rios mea culpa...
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"Surface, you fucking bigot. Are you even suggesting that a woman can not have a penis? MODS!!!!"
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Fifth My apologies. I've just checked the Met's definition of rape and you are right. A penis has to be involved. Otherwise it's sexual assault.
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"Fifth Yes, I agree with almost all of that. The only thing I would quibble with is that women 'almost never' rape. Women can rape men (and other women) by penetrating them with any object. This is not common, but it's far more frequent than 'almost never'."
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"Fifth Yes, I agree with almost all of that. The only thing I would quibble with is that women 'almost never' rape. Women can rape men (and other women) by penetrating them with any object. This is not common, but it's far more frequent than 'almost never'."
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goose 7:07 Mon Jul 24 Poor old comma. He'll be distraught reading that.
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"Surface Most research shows women experience domestic abuse at approximately twice the rate of men ie about 1/3 of domestic abuse victims (in terms of violence) are male. You're right that the reporting rate is much lower for men. Having said this, women also massively under-report DA. Most don't report it at all. But in general 1/3 male victims of some form of domestic violence is fairly accepted as accurate. However, the amount who experience serious injury - it's only about 5% of men, 95% women... mainly because on average men are stronger than women and testosterone etc leads violent men to inflict more harm on women than violent women are generally capable of. Also, women almost never sexually assault men. That is incredibly rare. And they never rape them in legal terms. There are male victims of rape and they are raped by other men. Weirdly the perpatrators of male rape often aren't gay or hadn't seen themselves to be gay."
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