Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[Darlo Debs]

I find all this anti centrist stuff a bit odd. I don't I.particularly think I am.a centrist but I suppose it would depend on the opinion.of the person I'd be getting compared to. Anyway on.the one hand people want honesty.in.politics but then accuse the politicians of not listening to.the electorate if they do.show their true colours left or right. Basically in the system.we have the bulk.of voters that swing elections are either centre left or right so is it any wonder that is where politicians place themselves if they want any hope of winning an election?

[Nurse Ratched]

Don't take it ultra personally. All centrists are creepy.

[Fo the Communist]

"In fairness, Nursey, I am not sure many people would welcome that description. Certainly not the 'creepy' bit. Not sure about the 'previous iterations' either. All that said, all's fair in love and WHO."

[Willtell]

"Fo I think we will disagree about him because although I voted remain out of self-interest, I was happy with his arguments over the Brexit issue. And he's been exonerated over the banking issue. The real problem though was that no political parties would keep him involved in the management of Brexit to allow him to manage what he promised. That was because, let's face it, neither of the main parties wanted to leave, let alone administer it correctly. Covid hid a lot of the cracks early on but UK stumbles on and I ma sure it'll end up fine but could and should have been more obviously beneficial to Brits..."

[Nurse Ratched]

"I fondly recall, Fo, that under your various previous iterations, you did not take kindly to being described as a disingenuous creepy Blairite centrist. Even though you are üòâ"

[Darlo Debs]

Branded funny you should mention the NHS..Farage openly called for an Insurance Based healthcare system back.in 2002 (.I think.it was).then.tried to deny it in a later TV debate telling Richard Burgon.that no-one wanted the NHS privatised. The last thing .most Brits want is a US style insurance based healthcare system. As you just made very clear I think it'll be something that will continually haunt him.and mark him.out as a potential wolf in sheep's clothing hence 8 attempts at being elected and 8 times failed

[Darlo Debs]

Branded funny you should mention the NHS..Farage openly called for an Insurance Based healthcare system back.in 2002 (.I think.it was).then.tried to deny it in a later TV debate telling Richard Burgon.that no-one wanted the NHS privatised. The last thing .most Brits want is a US style insurance based healthcare system. As you just made very clear I think it'll be something that will continually haunt him.and mark him.out as a potential wolf in sheep's clothing hence 8 attempts at being elected and 8 times failed

[Fo the Communist]

"Afternoon Crass. If we are looking at recent lefty populists, I'd say Corbyn was a better example than Blair. And I make you mostly correct in your specific characterisation of the left and its MO. The left does indeed have an unpalatable nasty side and intolerance which was best illustrated by the reaction to 9/11. Books like The Fallout by Andrew Anthony document this well. Me, I'm just a lovely chap."

[Fo the Communist]

"Will. Not going to go through the whole Brexit argument, mate. Remain lost, Leave won and the rest is history. Neither, I suspect, am I ever going to convince his fans that he's not a force for good. I've said why I dislike the man. It's not a right or left thing either as populist figures can come from either end of the spectrum. He uses a fake persona to appeal to hopes and fears of others based on often dubious claims and crude simplicities."

[BRANDED]

"One of the funniest things about Farrage's efforts is that, to a certain extent, he wanted a less nanny state type of governance that was coming from EU rules based governance. Or, even a less centre left "" we know best "" type of governance. Leaving the EU would gain the UK the opportunity to move right on a whole lot of issues. Well, along came Corbyn and his popularity and the result of his moment in the sunlight was the realisation that people in the UK wanted a lot of leftist things like re nationalising Trains and Water and wanted better wages and more and more money in the NHS etc. So, just as European countries are moving to the right the UK is lurching heavily to the left in all kinds of areas including high taxation, wokeness and probably a Labour government."

[Crassus]

"Fo Hiya chap That post of yours sounds like a description of the 'peace loving' Blair does it not? The bit that amuses me greatly in all this is the lefty response* All anti NF and accommodating, as the great Arthur Dailey would describe, a 'diabolical liberty' because the victim is someone they don't like and then wrapping it in whataboutery Chief protagonist being the soppy Darlo tart, who shrouds everything in a 'being nice' blanket to self satisfy until it involves someone she objects to, then fair game * I obviously preclude yourself, albeit, you came close a couple of times ;)"

[Willtell]

"Fo You see I am interested in what you said about Farage which was - ""But he is undeniably built on the whole populist lie."" So are you suggesting that Farage set himself up as a saviour from the EU and that he made it into a populist lie? Only I thought most people didn't want to get involved in the EU right from the start and were taken into it by politicians that thought they knew better than the people? In fact lied to the people about its intent on becoming a federal Europe? Is that not correct?"

[Eerie Descent]

What do you disagree with that Farage has said?

[Cabbage Savage]

Picjkle has luvly gimp soot made from donkee leather

[J.Riddle]

Shakespeare Globe allowing some bloke to stand watching a children's play in full gimp outfit and mask because the outfit “did not contain offensive slogans”. Lol btw haven't seen hammer and pickle on here lately? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-gimp-suit-shakespeares-globe-children-b2380638.html

[J.Riddle]

Shakespeare Globe allowing some bloke to stand watching a children's play in full gimp outfit and mask because the outfit “did not contain offensive slogans”. Lol btw haven't seen hammer and pickle on here lately? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-gimp-suit-shakespeares-globe-children-b2380638.html

[Fo the Communist]

"Will. I'm sure there will be different interpretations but for me, essentially it's the notion that 'the people' (whatever that means) is being supressed by 'the elite' (whatever that means) and that (insert whoever but it's usually someone benefitting from the privilege they claim to want to overthrow) is somehow able to reverse this imaginary or, at best, nebulous scenario. I'm sure there will be no end of folk here who will tell you the real definition though."

[Willtell]

“ But he is undeniably built on the whole populist lie.” ————————————- What is the “populist lie” then Fo?

[Fo the Communist]

"Stewie. Yes, as per my post below, Farage is clearly correct on this issue. No problem acknowledging that."

[Kaiser Zoso]

"Ah that’s done it griffin, you’ve pulled Fo The Centrists comfort blanket away, just when he so desperately needs to be right about something, anything"

[stewie griffin]

"Fo the Communist 1:58 Wed Jul 26 Re: Woke watch i think he's a bellend. Not sure why any of that matters here. What happened was wrong. Categorically. The BBC wrong, Coutts were wrong, Natwest were wrong. Anything else is irrelevant noise"

[BRANDED]

1. He's clearly not a grifter 2. He's genuine If he fails in presenting his message he won't have supporters. That is true of any activity that seeks to find supporters or fans. Of course if he said he disapproved of gays but was a closet shirt lifter he would be disingenuous. If he was secretly a globalist EU supporting centrist he would be disingenuous. The Northerners he appeals to are almost certainly now middle class. At least materially.

[Fo the Communist]

"Nursey All saltiness aside, you don't need towering intellect or anything close to it to question the credentials of a man who claims to be 'one of us' who in reality is nothing of the sort. It's not about his message which clearly strikes a chord with many (and he's right on this occasion). It's the lie behind it that I object to."

[Nurse Ratched]

"Gosh. I wish I was a towering intellect, like some on this thread, who are far too clever to be swept up in all that populist bullshit stuff that affects the proles. I'm sure they are far too clever to get brainwashed by any alternative type of ideology, either."

[Kaiser Zoso]

"Are there any queers in the theatre tonight? Get 'em up against the wall (against the wall) Now there's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me Get him up against the wall (against the...) And that one looks Jewish and that one's a c**n Who let all this riff-raff into the room? There's one smoking a joint and another with spots If I had my way I'd have all of ya shot Signed Coutts Wealth Reputational Risk committee"