NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[Far Cough]

"Lott had 2 sacks in one season, he had 8.5 overall"

[crystal falace]

"Teams will quite regularly blitz a defensive back to try and surprise a QB, usually a safety, rodney harrison had over 30 sacks from safety Might be a more modern tactic because i would guess that 2 over the course of a career is actually quite low"

[Far Cough]

"Ronni Lott had 2 QB sacks, fuck me how does a DB get to sack a QB? I suppose it's when the offensive team gets in the red zone?"

[Far Cough]

"Yeah I enjoyed listening to Neon Deion, he had a lot of good things to say, I'm glad Ronnie Lott got in though"

[Takashi Miike]

"doesn't even mention it, he's very generous towards some of his heroes and former team mates. he could back up the ego so I enjoy listening to him. I wish I'd seen mel blount play at his peak"

[crystal falace]

What was sandwrs' reaction like when he found out he wasnt a unanimous pick? Biggest ego i've ever seen!

[Takashi Miike]

"NFL 100 All Time Team : Linebackers & Defensive Line (guests include Belichik, Ray Lewis, Lawrence Taylor & Mean Joe Green) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0GA4Qhq97pk NFL 100 All Time Team : Defensive Backs & Specialists (guests include Belichik, Deion Sanders & Ed Reed) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLEsqjt_bZg"

[Holstebro Hammer]

"Think I might have done too despite leaving Brrees on the bench and Derrius Guice limping out. Thank you Darius Slayton I feel robbed. Not that it mattered to the overall standings. But with Eli Manning playing and me being 20 odd points up. Plus the Giants being shit. I thought it was in the bag. Still thanks a lot Gentleman, I've have enjoyed it this year. Look forward to the next one already."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Been a damn good servant to the Jets, has Powell. Under-rated RB."

[crystal falace]

"they do find loopholes in the rulebook its what will sometimes give them an edge, i remember Harbaugh with the ravens going mad because the pats were using ""illegal"" formations during a game, but the rules allowed it Belichick is just smart enough to utilise it. pretty sure that rule was added in the very next offseason. But i think people try and make huge deals out of everything the Pats do because they are the dominant team of the last 20 years!! and people want to tear them down and discredit what they've accomplished. The whole deflategate thing was basically debunked and a judge ruled to say it was all nonsense essentially and there was nowhere near enough evidence, but another judge essentially said it doesnt matter the arguement was about whether Goodell could do what he wanted regardless. Aaron Rogers openly admitted to deliberately inflating balls past the limits but nothing was made of that instead Brady got a 4 game ban because he ""may have been aware that something was going on"""

[southbankbornnbred]

"Let me be clear - I don't think that the Patsies are cheating, at all, with this. But they do like to bend a rule."

[Takashi Miike]

"bilal powell showed on sunday that gase might not be entirely the problem, regarding bell and his underwhelming performances"

[southbankbornnbred]

Oi! I'll have you know that the Jets' entire coaching staff are half-wits with iPhones! You leave them out of it.

[Takashi Miike]

"no one thinks they were trying to cheat, it's just taking the piss, SB. you think a bloke who coached Lawrence Taylor for most of his career needs a report from some halfwit with an iPhone to know how to plan for a match against a team almost as bad as the redskins? :.)"

[crystal falace]

"Just because they were caught filming the Bengals, it doesn't mean they weren't doing it to other teams Would be pretty essy to prove and sure we'd have heard already if they'd been elsewhere as thee Pats had to ask permission from the Browns to have people credentialed in the press box to do it."

[southbankbornnbred]

"The serious point is that I agree with Falace - it is unlikely that the Patsies would even bother filming the Bengals for any advantage. You wouldn't learn much, beyond how much their offensive line eats during a game. But there is a reason everybody is on edge when it comes to the Patsies and cheating. For a team that has been so good, and a coach and QB who are among the best ever, they are more committed than most to bending the rules. ""Spygate"" and ""Inflategate"" tell you that. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can't help but feel that post-Belichick, there could be a Lance Armstrong-style opening up of what actually went on inside PatsyLand after he signed that napkin."

[southbankbornnbred]

"It is interesting that it is very often the Patsies caught up in these ""filming"" scandals, isn't it? What better cover to have than to commission a group of idiot independents, and then instruct them to point their cameras in the direction of your opponents benches, while all the time denying any responsibility. Damn clever, that Belichick! Damn clever. Dangerous. Never has one man done so much damage with a single napkin. ;-)"

[Far Cough]

"and once again -- it's the Bengals!!! if they need to cheat to beat them then they mas as well just give up now Just because they were caught filming the Bengals, it doesn't mean they weren't doing it to other teams"

[southbankbornnbred]

"You have form, Falace! [I take the point]"

[crystal falace]

"Not sure why you'd trust an independent fil crew to do your cheating for you if thats what you were trying, not sure how much loyalty they'd have for you. And apparently they were in the press box with multiple other reporters including bengals, would be very bold to deliberately cheat and film the other team infront of members of their own media and once again -- its the bengals!!! if they need to cheat to beat them then they mas as well just give up now"

[southbankbornnbred]

"In 2008, the Patsies refused to hand over video tape of Jets signal calls (among other things) to the NFL, which had been obtained in contravention of league rules. So the NFL had to go to the Patsies practice ground and smash up the tapes themselves. Genuinely a true story. Roger Goodall believes Belichick has engaged in illegal filming of opponents since he became the Patsies head coach in 2000. He's been open about it when discussing it with state senators etc. Belichick denies this, obviously."

[southbankbornnbred]

"It's not the first time they've done it, either. The dirty, cheating fuckbags (sorry, Crystal!) were caught ogling our coaches in 2007. Any old cheat for an advantage. (I am contrctually obliged to say that, btw)"

[Takashi Miike]

is there an episode about the bloke who inflates/deflates the balls?

[crystal falace]

It's part of the do your job series i think there are at least 8 other ones they've done on patriots.com relating to various other departments within the team. Sounds like it was a completely independent film crew who was hired to do the filming so may not have been aware of certain rules or whatever. Again if they were going to cheat to win a game I'd like to think they'd do it before games against the Ravens or Chiefs rather than against the worst team in the NFL

[El Scorchio]

"Doesn't sound settled as of an hour ago? Also, it isn't necessarily the first time they've done it in some way, just the first time they've been caught. Bit weird for an unrelated to the team documentary crew to be filming the Bengals sidelines and signals, if they were supposed to be making a doc about a Patriots scout."