NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[Takashi Miike]

"we've managed to release a kicker, sign a worse one and the cսnt has a surname called blewitt. only us"

[southbankbornnbred]

"At fecking last! Managed to score some first-quarter points, and get an interception, too. It's only a win against the stray cats, but it's a start. I like Carter at RB and White at QB played like he had fuck all to lose (which is exactly how a back-up who has never started a game should play). I read that one or two senior folk in NYC read the riot act to Saleh/LaFleur after last week's amateurish showing. I'm still not convinced by Saleh and Ulbrich on defense - gave up another 30+ points even when winning today. This is a head coach with a LOT still to prove - especially on his favoured defensive side of the ball. Still think he needs to start calling plays there. Still - a win is a win is a win...good day to be Hammer and a Jet."

[crystal falace]

What a horrific call to gift the jets a first down! Receiver lowers his head as the defender tries to make a tackle and they flag the receiver for helmet to helmet?!

[Takashi Miike]

been a brilliant game this

[crystal falace]

Zack Wilson going to get wally pipped!

[Takashi Miike]

"SB, really impressed with your boys tonight against a good bengals team. the coaches finally working out how to use michael carter, and the other back johnson as a great alternative"

[lab]

"Whole game was a good watch ,and yeah ,who would have predicted that ending !"

[crystal falace]

Great game with a wild ending!!

[southbankbornnbred]

"Our ex-coach Rex, who was clueless on offense but knew how to build powerful defenses, hanging this shit on Saleh and his coaching staff... https://nypost.com/2021/10/26/rex-ryan-rips-robert-saleh-after-jets-embarrassment/"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Yeah, there just hasn't been any co-ordination between Saleh and Ulbrich as DC. Ulbrich spent a brief period working with Saleh at Seattle in 2011. Saleh landed the Jets job on the back of his good work as DC in Frisco, so you'd think THAT's the defensive model the Jets believed they were buying into/recruiting. Yet Saleh took an early decision to be very hands off with the defense, so Ulbrich is calling plays based on his few months in Gotham and his sketchy understanding of what Saleh wants - but with little game-day input from Saleh. It's just not working. Saleh needed to be more hands-on with his DC/defense from Day 1. Get that side of the ball right as a HC and you'd buy yourself a LOT of time while learning the rest of the role. He can quickly learn that lesson and correct his poor judgement on his lack of involvement. Instead, our new defensive-minded HC became the first Jets HC in 26 years to ship 50+ points. And we haven't had a single interception in the first six games. The two of them need to go back to basics and work this out. And don't get me started on the offense...not a single point scored in the first quarter in any of the six games...we've been outscored 44-0 in Q1. It's hard to judge any HC after six games. But they say any new HC gets 34 games to prove themselves (two seasons). Well, Saleh is into game seven next week...and we still look like a team having a nervous breakdown at the moment..."

[Takashi Miike]

"I looked up your DC, Ulbrich. he was in Seattle with Saleh in 2011, I'm not saying he isn't competent but he may have been better getting a vet to ease him through this initial shit I love jack del rio, but he decided in the spring to rejig the secondary and play a zone coverage scheme which relies on our highly rated d-line getting constant pressure on the opposing QB. that hasn't happened, and results have been poor. yesterday he decided to play more man coverage and you could see improvements, though it's slow progress. it may take another year for us :.("

[southbankbornnbred]

"I would still have appointed a gnarled old fucker as Jets head coach. We've always been better when we've had a head coach who has been around the block a bit: Ewbank (Super Bowl winner), Walton & Michaels (Sack Exchange coaches), Parcells and even Rex. A big part of it is that older guys know to avoid the obvious mistakes and also generally have reached a stage where they don't give a shit about New York's aggressive and intrusive media, which always creates pressure on young coaches."

[southbankbornnbred]

"TM - totally agree: there's a real lack of grey hairs on the Jets' coaching staff. The risk with that is that inexperienced guys like Saleh and LaFleur are doomed to repeat all the mistakes of past coaches because, in their respective roles, they have no experience of what works and what doesn't. Incredibly, we've got worse since Gase departed. Now, given how bad Gase was for two years, I'm quite sure that Saleh will end up on a level above TIG. Hopefully, there will be a ""J-curve"" effect while youngsters learn their roles. But Saleh has already made some poor decisions and said some stupid things in post-game analysis, which even he can't believe. He needs to buck his ideas up - and get a little more hands-on and agressive (on defense) than he has been. More experienced guys than him, now in commentary or punditry, have observed that he's started off down the wrong road...it's not too late to correct that...but he has to show a willingness to do it: or he'll suffer the same fate as so many co-ordinators who step up..."

[El Scorchio]

Takashi Miike 1:16 Lighten up.

[Takashi Miike]

"SB, I was more referring to what mcvey did when he left us and employed wade phillips as DC. I know they fell short of winning a superbowl but I think it was wise having someone that experienced to lean on during those first couple of years"

[Takashi Miike]

"El Scorchio 12:15 Mon Oct 25 not sure what the fuck you're talking about, I don't think I've once called for Rivera to go"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Worryingly, Saleh looked terrified facing the New York media after the game. He looked and sounded lost - and a bit fearful that they are going to turn on him. Which, seven games into your HC career, does not bode well. I've seen that look on Jets HC's many times before."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Hahaha! Don't get me wrong - I'm not criticising anybody on here: the NFL crowd on this board are an informed bunch and generally know their onions. There's just so much uncertainty about HC appointments in the NFL. The league's history is littered with the graves of good co-ordinators who failed to make the step up to HC. I just hope that Saleh doesn't become another one of the Jets' very long list of those people. Like many, I was drawn in by his record at San Francisco and his jib when he got the Jets job. And maybe he will turn out to be the right guy. But he has started out down the wrong road - and he needs to quickly reverse some early decisions (particularly around play-calling). He's currently trying to be the sort of coach he has never been - and it has been painful to watch. It's not on LaFleur - he's too easy a target. It's on Saleh, who appointed him as OC and gave him free rein on offense. We all assumed that was because Saleh was going to be very hands-on with the defense - and then he says he's not going to call plays or have much influence on defense on match-days, either! Besides, the focus on LaFleur is irrelevent. Yesterday, the Jets shipped 50+ points for the first time since the Rich Kotite era (1995). That's on the defense - and that's on Saleh. It is early days. But at some point, we have to judge him on what he's delivering. So far, it has been a well-spoken mess. Yesterday was an embarrassment defensively and any self-respecting former DC should react to that with some firm action."

[El Scorchio]

"It is quite extraordinary to watch both TM and SBBB's posts evolve over the course of an NFL season (almost every season without fail) go from the new head coach of the Jets or WFT, whoever they may be, being the man who is definitely going to get the franchise back to winning ways, to an absolute useless bum who needs to be removed as quickly as possible!"

[Takashi Miike]

"I didn't rave about him, I just thought he'd be better than gase and seven games is far too early to want another change. It was always questionable going in to your first year coach job and not having someone experienced (worked as a main coordinator in the nfl) calling the plays on offense. Lafleur Jr may turn out to be great, but I think a rookie head coach needs at least one older head on the staff and it doesn't seem he has that on both sides of the ball"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Be interesting to see what Saleh does now. If he does not have an ego, and if he knows what's good for the team, then he'll roll his sleeves up, start calling plays and do some frontline work. He clearly had talent as DC in San Francisco - so he must be the better defensive mind on our (thin) coaching roster. If he's yet another stubborn HC who sticks by his flawed decisions, then we're in for a very long season or two under him before he's smuggled out the back door while yet another coach wanders through the front door. I've been completely unimpressed by his first six weeks. If I worked with a guy like that, I'd be asking questions about his workload and effort. And I'd hide his moisturiser and head oils to get him away from the mirror."

[Mr. Burns]

The 49ers üòÇ

[southbankbornnbred]

"Crystal - it's genuinely hard to tell at the moment, because the Jets' fraudulent head coach hasn't provided Wilson with much in the way of protection. And, as a consequence, the kid is now injured. I like the look of your fella, though, unfortunately. Keeps things very simple and that will always work under BB. Wilson's injury looks like a problem with the PCL in his knee after another heavy tackle where his O-line failed him. In his first season. You can't learn if you have no protection. Quite a few folk on here raved about Saleh when he got the job. I was sceptical, because you just don't know until you see them as a leader (plus I felt we needed an offensive HC). But the early signs are that this HC likes the sound of his own voice, and the way he looks in the mirror, a little more than the challenge of actually coaching. He needs to swallow his pride and start calling defensive plays from next week - and then, gradually, start learning at least something about the offensive side of the game. At the moment, he's trying to be a strategic, co-ordinating CEO-type HC without any experience or knowledge of what that takes. He's coming across as lazy and clueless, which I'm sure he's not."

[crystal falace]

Mac jones > zach Wilson though SB right? :)

[southbankbornnbred]

"The twonks in the boardroom will give Saleh two seasons at least, I'm sure. But despite his good record as DC in San Francisco, I was sceptical about his appointment (primarily because it seemed obvious we needed an offensively minded HC, with a new QB etc). My gut feeling was that Saleh didn't yet look or feel like a HC. We'll give him time, I'm sure. But the early signs are not good. The guy looks like a bit of a lazy fraud at the moment."