NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Jets seemingly playing hardball with Green Bay over the draft picks on offer to land Rodgers. Looks like we're offering a Rnd2 this year and either a Rnd2 or Rnd3 next year. Packers holding out for a first round pick. Not sure the Jets feel the need to put one on the table - unless Green Bay also pay a huge chunk of Rodgers' forthcoming bonus. If GB demands a 1st rounder, presumably Douglas will demand that the Packers assume a big financial hit with it. That's the right approach. Finally, for the time being, the Jets seem to have learned how to dig their heels in on trades. It's a decent starting point from NYJ. My only worry is that we've traditionally been shit at trades and negotiations, so we may just fold after a decent start! I still wouldn't put it past us to end up with Ryan Leaf on $35m a year and no draft picks. So watch this space."

[ironsofcanada]

"Lots of changes for the Saints. In theory the offence could be a fair bit better, with an actual starting quaterback, if not an amazing one, and people healthy and if some young players kick on and another running back/replacement if Kamara goes to jail. O-line was a problem though. Interior defensive line gutted and replaced in free agency. And lost Daveport who was good when on the field on the edge. So we will see with the defence."

[Nutsin]

Rumors are emerging that OBJ to the Jets is being worked out. Both parties are keen. Jets with Rodgers and OBJ are making a splash!

[Takashi Miike]

*gave*

[Takashi Miike]

"SB, yes I've been impressed with him and he's definitely making a difference in attracting players. brissett have a good interview to the usual press bods, I never realised he represented himself, a really smart bloke. and I wasn't winding up about snyder and him possibly looking to invest over here, only we could land him after GSB"

[southbankbornnbred]

"So, judging by what the more ""authoritative"" NFL sites and papers are saying, the Packers are digging their heels in and demanding far too much from the Jets in order to land Rodgers. As expected, the bitterness between the two parties (Rodgers and the Packers, especially its GM - Rodgers and Gutekunst (you couldn't make it up!) do not see eye to eye - is the millstone around everybody's neck. Sounds like the Packers want a #1 round pick this year, plus further picks as high as a #2 next year (2024) in compensation - and that's before we even get to the financial element of which side takes the hit for wages, bonuses etc. Basically, the Packers - who have actively told Rodgers they don't want him any more - want a Rnd1, Rnd2 and huge financial contribution from the Jets. For a 39-year-old they want rid of. Fuck them. Most sane pundits think the Jets should just hold out - until the season starts if necessary - for something more like Rnd2, Rnd 3 (2024) and shared finances. Interestingly, Rodgers is due a $53m bonus from the Packers if he is on their roster in Week 1 of the 2023 season. Jets should just call out Green Bay and threaten to wait until after that. Rodgers knows our offensive system anyway - we just landed the Packers' former offensive co-ordinator because of Rodgers. Most other teams have picked their free agent QBs, so the market for Rodgers will not be huge, despite his talent. And he wants to join the Jets. This will rumble on for a bit, unless Green Bay eases their demands."

[southbankbornnbred]

"TM - no surprise to see Bieniemy land two decent offensive linemen quickly. Much needed additions, according to most Washington fans. Think you've found a good play-caller on offense now."

[Takashi Miike]

"brady couldn't be much more different in character, and possibly one of the least selfish legends of the game. it'll be fun if they do sign him but I think it ends with the coach getting fired within two years more positive news, dan snyder has cleared his office and the new owner announcement is due any day now. a twenty three year curse about to be lifted one word of warning, and this has been mentioned on numerous redskin fan channels regarding snyder. he apparently wants to relocate to the uk, and may look to purchase a PL club. he's exactly the sort of character sullivan would sell to."

[zebthecat]

You never know. Tom Brady joined the Bucs after a pretty iffy season with the Patriots.

[lab]

"Zeb, I appreciate what he's done but I think he's had his day . As a Jets fan nothing would make me more happy to be eating my own words ."

[zebthecat]

Not sure the Andy Carroll analogy stacks up. Super winner and MVP 4xMVP 10xProbowl Multiple NFL records including the staggering 402 consecutive passes without an interception. His last season wasn't great and can really bear a grudge. I think he is still pissed off that Packers drafted Jordan Love.

[southbankbornnbred]

"Be in no doubt: if he joins, Rodgers considerably improves the Jets. Even at the age of 39. He is a big upgrade on what we've had at QB for more than ten years - even though he is past his peak. That's how bad our QBs have been for too long. The question is not about his quality. It's what the Jets are prepared to give away to land him (especially at 39) - and whether pandering to his giant ego upsets the team spirit that Douglas and Saleh have built. Last year, the rest of the team turned their backs on Zach Wilson when his (unjustified) ego ran amok. Some criticised them for that - I took it as a good sign, because it meant that apart from a poor QB we were a unified side. Hence, players turned up with the t-shirts saying ""Mike Fucking White""! Rodgers' ego and character threatens that unity. Unless he just slots in as the QB leader of a good group."

[lab]

"Supporting the Jets is a bit like supporting West Ham , and this smacks of Andy Carroll ."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Realistically, it now looks like Rodgers will be the Jets' next quarterback. He says he wants to be a Jet next season and has mentioned no other team. He and his advisers have tried to backtrack on claims that he's trying to cherry-pick his offensive weapons. They claim the media has inflated his ""demands"" around Odell Beckham etc. If true, big if, then that's good. According to Rodgers, the sticking point is that the Packers are ""diffing their heels in"" over compensation from the Jets - which means draft picks and the salary pick-up. I fucking hope Joe Douglas plays a blinder on that one. They have some leverage. There's not a huge market for Rodgers (most needy teams have picked their free agent QBs already), and Green Bay has told Rodgers ""they"" want to move on from him - which gives the Jets some reason to say 'then you have to take some of the hit financially'. My advice to Douglas would be to stay at the negotiating table for as long as possible. Make Green Bay take something they don't want. We have the #13 pick this year and could take a QB or trade that out to somebody else if Green Bay asks too much."

[Takashi Miike]

"rivera and our gm mayhew couldn't be doing a better job this free agency. two very good o linemen in andrew wylie and nick gates, and today signing jacoby brissett as a back up to sam howell"

[southbankbornnbred]

"White is a reliable back-up, Zeb. Not going to be #1 material, but a hard-working roster QB who learns the playbooks. He'll be a decent #2 for you. But I'm pissed that he's gone to the Fish!"

[zebthecat]

The Jets are defnitely going for Rodgers. Mike White has gone to my Fins and Joe Flacco is a free agent. There is no way Zach Wilson will be anything more than second string at best. He's not Nathan Perterman bad but he is bad.

[El Scorchio]

"Agree. he's a franchise wrecker at this point. Completely self above team and you can't give in to demands like that. He will keep taking and taking. The Jets need to see with some clarity and walk away. Meanwhile on the QB merry go round- Mayfield to Bucs, Darnold to SF, Jimmy G to Vegas."

[Takashi Miike]

"if they're going to invest the sort of money he wants (rodgers alone), I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole if he's requesting multiple people to hold his hand. you're supposedly trading for a locker room leader, all I see is a prima donna that potentially creates toxic atmospheres. also, you already have at least three receivers that are better than cobb/lazard & conklin is better than 38 year old lewis"

[southbankbornnbred]

"I also get the impression that Rodgers is planning a one-year ""shit or bust"" run at the SB title. Hence, ""let's get Beckham or Cobb etc"" and explode the finances. Don't let him do that. Two-year deal at QB and Saleh/Douglas make the rest of the picks, thanks."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Definitely think the whole ""let's get Rodgers"" thing is coming from the owners, and not Douglas (GM) or Saleh (HC). Rodgers is excellent, but a MASSIVE ego and dickhead. That just doesn't fit with the whole Douglas/Saleh approach. In fact, it runs in stark contrast to it."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Seriously, I'm thinking the Jets should give him a swerve and go for Baker Mayfield (now that Carr and Jimmy G have gone elsewhere) and a longer-term rebuild QB in the draft. These names that Rodgers is wanging on about are either far too expensive and won't fit with Rodgers' own salary cap demands...or they are no better than the two (good) young receivers we already have: Garrett Wilson and Elijah Moore. The problem a slot guy like Moore has had at the Jets has been Zach Wilson's inability to read his covered receivers and check-down, which is why Zach Wilson fell off a cliff last year. He can't read the field. Rodgers - who is one of the best check-down guys in history - throwing to Moore (inside) and Garrett Wilson (outside) is potentially really good for the Jets. Rodgers doesn't need so-called ""big names"" like Beckham Jnr. It's a fucking waste of time and money - and their egos will ruin the team. I'd probably still take Rodgers at a push. But if he starts trying to pick his own players and drafts, then fuck him. We've got talent on the roster. We need a good QB, not another fucking HC."

[Takashi Miike]

"hilarious shit coming from rodgers about his wishlist of free agents : lazard, cobb, beckham & mercades lewis. brilliant üòÇüëç"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Hargrove is an excellent signing for the 49ers. He's a proper defensive tackle. Solid all round, against pass and run. I was hoping the Jets might take a peek, but they look completely distracted by this flirtation with Rodgers."

[Nutsin]

"49 ers signed Javon Hargrove, DT from Philly. Guys a beast, great signing""¶ Paraag Marathe worked his usual magic with the contract too, it's really a 2 year commitment for the Niners,a four year contract. Low guaranteed money too considering his production""¶.. Plus we weaken our opponent""¶. Good move, our D line is gonna be legit again."