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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"360. OK his style of play is negative, he doesn't know how to use the squad he has and he is dour faced jock cսnt and should be sacked. Glad I now have you in agreement with me."
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""" sack this cսnt "" Saved us from relegation. 2 consecutive seasons qualifying for Europe. Europa league semi finalists Unbeaten in Europe this season. Yes let's sack him üôÑüôÑ"
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Win tomorrow and we are 10th. Holding fire for the moment. Massive test and game though. Does he have what it takes? 29 points to go.
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"our form and consistency has stunk for months. Had the season started last January there's every chance we'd have been relegated. We've now invested in players, and seriously so. PLayers like Scamacca and Paqueta are statement signings, but if you emply a manager who cant get you at least top 10 with this side then what use is that? As others said, hes got credit in the bank, and we give him the ourtesy of tim, but how much time can we afford give?"
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"Boleyn And beat Bournemouth on Monday and we will be 10th! So what you're saying is meaningless at this point of the season, 2pt of relegation really means fuck all. If you said his style of play etc.. looks unlikely to succeed going forward I maybe with you. But points, now? Lol"
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Moyes has 19 points from his last 19 PL games. That was what Pellegrini had when he was sacked after spending just over half of what Moyes spent this summer.
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"Yeah and if my uncle had tits he'd be my aunty's (not sure how true that statement is nowadays) but we are 4th from bottom. 2 points off a relegation place. Been saying it since last season, get rid of Dismal now"
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"Sir Alf I see what you're saying. And I am too concerned with his approach to games (preservation rather than let's go for it). But i'm aware of how risky ""reaching for the stars""ù is in this league. It really can destroy you if it's not done in a considered fashion. I think we are too early in the campaign to talk about us being relegation zone fodder. If we beat Forest (unreal how we didn't) and had a draw at Liverpool, a result on Monday would make us 8th I think. That's only 3 results and we would be in line with the top 7/8 clubs by size / resources. We haven't been able to call on 4 senior CB's for most of the campaign, one of which we signed especially for what Moyes wanted to do. We have also been juggling a European campaign at the same time (flawlessly as well). The difference with us now is that we have a squad at a level that a lower than top 12 finish is pretty unlikely. No matter what it looks like in October. We have some insulation from relegation in that regard. I do think we could do better and I do think we could have done better last year as well if some obvious recruitment decisions had been made. I suppose, Moyes is under increased scrutiny for me, but I'm quite far from having him replaced."
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"In the shit cսnt that is modern football they see it we should be grateful for the last 2 years rather than it should be swapped out considering the undoubted loyalty in masses and indeed relegations that we've shown to the club when there has been very little deserving of such loyalty other than to each other""¶.."
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"ted - Yea agree. Whatever way you look at it he isn't going to be here long term now as it's clear he will only take you so far, plus his record against Sky's top 6 is being brought up a lot now, and frankly it's embarrassing for him. It irks me how he is forever going on about ''the last 2 and a half years'' cսnt should be looking forward."
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"Let's face it as the years have gone on the reasons to support West Ham is more to do with the character(s) of the support rather than the football that has generally been on offer""¶.."
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Some people are just content with us not being relegated and mid table. Just because we have been shit for so many years doesn't mean we should be content with just not being shit Keep reading we've punched a over our weight when in reality we've just punched below it for too long
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"Is it a case of Moyes has done brilliant in getting the club to where it should have always been what with it's tremendous support and attendance? Now we are asking can he push it on to actually compete with the top clubs that genuinely feel they should beat us easily with how they always pushed to get better players than us? It's intent to compete at the very top we've always lacked and this has shown in our lack of anything major to talk about other than these past couple of seasons and possibly one or two more""¶.."
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"He's done much better then any of us could've imagined, but the question is - can he take us even further or has he reached his ceiling? Next season we'll get a lucrative sponsorship deal which will see our revenue rocket. Whether people see it or not, people in charge are serious about us competing with the big boys. Fair play to Moyes for what he's done, but with 0 wins in 19 away games against the big 6 (and tactics used in those games) I personally don't see him as the man who could handle a group of quality players and don't trust him to deliver high quality football. A manager who's main goal is to try and keep a clean sheet doesn't belong in the elite tier of football imo."
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"threesixty 12:30 Sun Oct 23 Your point about removing us from relegation struggles is a important one. It's the minimum requirement and why IMO Moyes was doing a good job. While we were nowhere near the bottom 6 or so I personally was prepared to be patient and let Moyes have 5 or more seasons to see where he could get us to. But we have returned to the ""flakey""ù West Ham he said he was determined to eradicate when he returned as manager second time. Aside from setting up to not concede ( but ironically doing just that) every game , he has bought players and implemented a style of play that other teams all know how to manage. It's essentially the same system / tactics we have used since staving off relegation. Sit deep, stay compact, keep the shape and rely on passages of play on the counter or set pieces to score a goal or two. It's the latter part that simply isn't working. While last season we saw teams beginning to handle our set plays and press us high or sit deep themselves, we've struggled. We now make chances but cannot take them. I think we are the worst or almost the worst in the league for that? And the system basically gives up the first 45 - 60 mins to just avoid conceding. Which btw is not working. And tge players we have bought. Technically better in the case of Paqueta and Scamacca. Not addressed enough the lack of pace IMO and that is costly in tge midfield area. Soucek just not quick enough and not possessing the passing accuracy. Fornals too slow out wide as he's a central midfielder. Paqueta played too advanced and getting dispossessed too easily. Just a few factors behind our demise in the league over that last 10 or 11 months. It's not been addressed. The Europa and this year conference qualifiers have masked the poor run of form. Injuries to CBs have not helped this season so I am prepared to wait until Aguerd is playing ( hopefully soon) before getting me ""moyes out""ù banner out. I have a feeling nothing is going to change though and results will continue to be ""up and down""ù,Soucek will still be first choice over Downes, Fornals will still play out wide, Scamacca will remain isolated. Let's see. 7 more games before tge WC to hopefully see improvements and a change from just safety first, counter attack footie"
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"Everyone knows what Sullivan is like, unless we're proper in the shit he won't do anything. Maybe Kretinsky will want a different approach but that's probably one for next summer. It's Moyes for the foreseeable future."
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TM well said Two is the biggest wanker on WHO you called him out what a twat again Moyes will now see our position as a can't lose game tomorrow. 60 minutes of his crap. Bournemouth are there for the taking. Like Liverpool and Southampton were. Forest showed a better attacking game than us. Every team has. We have better players available. Can you imagine Moyes changing his tactics intelligently like Potter did so early against Man Utd. Brighton attacked City and got close.
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"Stewie. Had the Confrence League not been created, we would be in Europa. Liverpool won both domestic cups, therefore Europa would have gone to 6th and 7th."