Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Admiral Lard]

"Won 5 out 5 European Conference games, the only team to do so.... won the last 6 home games...... heading up the league........ You Moyes out people are FUCKWITS"

[master]

"Free-floating and expansive. A joy to watch. When he got Potts on the crowd was delirious, proper nostalgia."

[twoleftfeet]

"Fuck me you cunts are evil. For fuck sake you lot need to get a grip. I get it that you don't like him but to fucking slander him ü§∑üèº""ç‚ôÇÔ∏èü§∑üèº""ç‚ôÇÔ∏èü§∑üèº""ç‚ôÇÔ∏è Yes I wanted him out 5/6 weeks ago but he has turned it round so I'm very pleased with the job he is doing. 100% record in Europe."

[Browno22]

"He's a real nasty piece of work. Kicking balls at ball boys, asking women if they want a slap. Just a genuinely unpleasant man"

[Takashi Miike]

"""It's quite amusing seeing the Moyes out thread on the same day as we play a European match."" but not as amusing as you wanting him sacked a few weeks ago"

[easthammer]

"OccupyGreenStreet Nail and Head We are a long way off going toe to toe with the best teams, the problem is also that we also struggle to find ways through the lesser teams when they are predominantly defensive. The two problems IMO are that we are particularly slow in our transition from the back to the front and when we do create chances we are not great at taking them. The way Moyes sets is not attractive but it is realistic IMO the only team that had looked better than us so far has been Man City even the games we have lost we might have come away with something I was not happy when Moyes came back but I think he is doing OK. I think those that we can be a bit more attacking and that we should press more are right. I am hopeful that as the back four becomes a little more settled Moyes will set up for this. I'll judge Moyes by how we go in the second half of this season."

[twoleftfeet]

It's quite amusing seeing the Moyes out thread on the same day as we play a European match. Something we could only have dreamed of before Moyes came in.

[Russ of the BML]

"Takashi Miike 3:54 Thu Oct 27 ""that's why it's hilarious that cresswell had one of his best games for a long time monday night with benny in front of him. the three forward players staying forward, which then allows the rest of the team to move up the pitch"" Indeed. It's called 'the best form of defence is attack'. Something Moyes won't even understand."

[OccupyGreenStreet]

"And on Fornals, what Pep has made explicit in the last five years is the value of overloads and the pay off of attacking wherever the space is in the opposition's set up. Fornals is the ultimate team/systems mind set - he'll plug gaps and do whatever is asked of him, which in contemporary football is massively important. Agreed he came in as a talented creative attacking midfielder and he may well take that role up again in time, but like Tommy, he's massively good at making sure there aren't overloads or spaces that are exploited. This is all quite reactive, I agree, and Moyes's performances often seem strangely underwhelming, even when we win. But I don't think we're -yet- good enough to go toe-to-toe with the best PL teams."

[OccupyGreenStreet]

"Miike, agree 100% that any attempt to make Benny into another workhorse is both a waste of his attacking talents and doomed to failure. Moyes gas tried it and it didn't work. Benny had to play when we can go on the front foot from the start, as on Monday, or come on as an attacking impact sub. Bournemouth set up in an unusual way, kind of 3-5-2 mid-block with loads of players behind the ball until late on. This was great for Benny's skill set, dribbling at players, cutting inside, giving Cress the overlap. Both players had fine games (except early on when Fredericks exposed Cress). Not much in the way of defensive duties. But not many teams will set up like this, Man U will attack us, for example, and if Benny switches off out of possession, we'll see Cress overloaded."

[eusebiovic]

Moyes has his philosophy and sticks to it rigidly. Bar the odd injury crisis that might force his hand to change tactic there isn't really a plan B so this is as good as it's gonna get. Everyone hails Pep as s tactical genius but then so would a few other managers too if the average spend on each squad member was £50million squids. Moyes is one of the most experienced of the also-rans but also one of the better ones in his age group at the moment. As unimpressive as that sounds he's better than BFS or Steve Fucking Bruce or Putrid Pulis. We'll see what the new chairman thinks in due course...

[Takashi Miike]

"OGS, don't you think we already have enough work horses in the team without asking benrahma to do it too? fornals is never used in an attacking manner when picked on the left (I can't remember the last time he was used centrally). for me, pablo's sole purpose under moyes is to shore up the left hand side when we play so called better teams, and provide insurance for cresswell. that's why it's hilarious that cresswell had one of his best games for a long time monday night with benny in front of him. the three forward players staying forward, which then allows the rest of the team to move up the pitch is far more valuable to me than someone permanently sat ten yards off the LB (and I'm not criticising fornals, he's being destroyed by moyes negativity)"

[Texas Iron]

Moyes is a C@@T..

[OccupyGreenStreet]

"I don't think it's just bias against Benny, though I agree that Moyes digs him out far too often. If you watch the game on tv, where the camera is focused on the ball and what a player does when in possession, Benny looks pretty good and Pablo and Big Tommy less so. If you go to the stadium and see what's going on on the ball but also off it, then Pablo and Tomas work fking hard all night long to plug gaps, compete for challenges, track runners, get in the box, get back etc. I thought Tomas was having a poor season when I've watched him on tv. In the stadium, like second half vs Bournemouth, you can see that his workrate is immense and he's everywhere, helping to maintain Moyes's preferred system. Moyes is a systems manager, and he is ridiculously stubborn about it and thinks certain players - Pablo, Tomas - buy into that fully. Benny brings something different, match winner on his day, but more mercurial. Not really Moyes's preferred way."

[Russ of the BML]

"Great comments from Moyes. He wonders why Benny isn't producing enough. I'll ytell you why, Dave, you fucking moron and that's because he's scared to. If he doesn't create the perfect pass / cross / shot then he gets criticised. The blokes probably scared into being average. Players need to play with no fear. They shouldn;t be scared to try things. This constant criritcism will get onto Benny's head and just cripple him. Fcuking Moyes is such a prick."

[Takashi Miike]

"as I've said numerous times, this tough love approach is fine if you're willing to hold other players to the same standards. he doesn't and let's his favourites shit the bed week after week, yet benny has to be perfect? fuck off"

[The Mercernary]

"From the official site - one from Moyes, then one from Benny: ""Let's be fair and honest, Sa√Ød has not shown us enough of what he can do, but tonight he did, and I'm really pleased. Last year he got six or seven goals and six or seven assists, but his game has to be more consistent. I keep telling him, and I'm happy to say it here: he needs to have more consistency. But he's a dribbler. He can make things happen. He commits people, which is something we don't have, and I really like it, but what I want from is a good cross, I want a good pass or good finish. He has to hit the target more often because he creates himself opportunities, but I thought tonight he played well."" Said, You're always a danger to the opposition... ""I always try to give it my all. I've got a good relationship with the coaches; they know how to boost my confidence; they know what I'm capable of. Bit by bit I'm feeling better and getting my sensations back.""ù ""It was a great night! Back in the starting eleven. It was good. I've been waiting for this, I've worked hard to get back into the starting lineup and it paid off tonight. I played the full 90 minutes, got on the score sheet, my legs felt good; it's really great for my confidence. I'm happy because it's not easy""¶ Tonight, I had to find my confidence, but I worked hard and was able to respond on the pitch.""ù"

[Russ of the BML]

Charoo 1:33 Thu Oct 27 He won't do that because he doesn't like him. End of. Personal issues whatever they may be have to be put aside for the greater good. And if you have to put your arm around someone you don't like then you do it. How can Benny fulfill his potential under Moyes? He must feel totally isolated. And no matter what he does he gets criticised. If he's good he gets told he should be better. If hes not so good he's told he wasn;t good. You imagine trying to work under those conditions.

[Russ of the BML]

"I have believed for a while that Moyes has a personal vendetta against Benny but have only really had my gut instinct to go on after it seems Moyes uses any excuse not to play him. Even changing our formation unnecessarily. But this comment about his speaking English is an absolute joke and confirms my suspicions. Moyes never learnt Spanish and even admits it but gives himself a pass by saying if he'd stayed in Spain he would've learnt. Paqcueta doesn't speak English but gets a pass because he speaks other languages. And, again, why single Benny out? Several pedestrian performances against Bournemouth. Benny probably our brightest spark on the night without ripping up any trees. This is a fucking disgrace. And without wishing to sound dramatic its almost reaching the level of bullying. Why is it alwasy Benny that is criticised? And why, when there nothing to criticise, does Moyes introduce something to criticise, in this case something very trivial. I tell you, if I was Benny, I'd be in that office like a shot and you'd hear me cunting him off from the traning pitch."

[eusebiovic]

If we thought Moyes ran the players into the ground last season then Bielsa would have them in a chain gang digging ditches after training. The football would be a lot easier on the eye though...

[fraser]

J. Riddle - 11 goals and 6 assists last season is no end product?

[Jose+]

I always thought BIELSA was a good laugh but I'm not sure our squad could hack it.

[Takashi Miike]

"no, poch is delusional and thinks he should be managing someone like real madrid despite failing to win a one team league in france. we should go younger, newman should already be shortlisting candidates though I wouldn't hold my breath :.)"

[Jose+]

"I'm not seeing where Moyes can take us. Set up defensively and then push for the last 10 or 15 isn't a good plan for any team and certainly isn't working for us. It's hard for players on a practical level and in terms of their mindset to play it tight for the main part of the game and then be asked to suddenly switch, Moyes has got rid of a lot of dead wood, has got a grip of the owners and hasn't wasted too much cash. Now it's time to move him on. Who comes in though - maybe Poch?"

[Takashi Miike]

"that is just moyes laying the groundwork and an excuse for the next time he benches him. he can't do it on football tems, so he'll come out with bollocks which nagel posted. the gullible will fall for it, but I hope most are getting tired of this crap by now"