Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[ironsofcanada]

Obviously missed Paqueta

[ironsofcanada]

"Who is going to the World Cup? Areola, small possibility of Zouma, same with Bowen, Rice Kehrer Aguerd Ability to have a mini training camp with a new manager. Any good will is gone. Results are not there. Needed six points from the last 3 before the tournament, now impossible. But doubt anything will happen before the (hopefully expected ) takeover if I am honest. Roll on Blackburn."

[dealcanvey]

"Honestly dont think Emerson is an upgrade on Cresswell as a LB. Good going forward, liability defending. Seems to have been the case in that position for years now. 13 million is alot of money on a player that cant knock cresswell out of the position."

[Nagel]

"I think Moyes will be out if he fails to beat Leicester. If you look at the sackings of Bilic and Pellegrini, one was booted out after getting 9 points from the first 11 games, the other 19 points from 19 games before being sacked. So this lines up with Moyes' current 14 points from 14. Also, while Bilic had ended the previous season well and Pellegrini started the new season well, under Moyes this poor form has been going on for 12 months now (44 points from the last 38 games, and only 22 points from the last 22 games). You could say that Bilic maybe had some excuse with teething problems with the new stadium and Pellegrini with our only decent keeper being crocked for months. Can't see that Moyes has any excuses at all really, especially after the transfer funds he was given."

[Huffers]

"Emerson was brought in to replace Masuaku, which you can quite rightly argue is an upgrade. However, Cresswell should've been replacing Masuaku and someone else should've been replacing Cresswell. Another point is he obviously didn't deem it necessary to sign a RB but is now displaying little faith in Johnson or Coufal. He was inconsistent with this last season too, rotating between all 3 including Fredericks with no rhyme or reason. Similarly, I don't understand his thinking behind putting Lanzini on at LM/W against Palace after previously swearing by having Fornals there. He rightly dropped Fornals (at last) recently - who then put in a performance in Europe last week but then opts to bring Lanzini on in a position he's barely played for Moyes and who had very little PL minutes to-date this season for Benrahma (who should've stayed on the pitch regardless). Geezer is a mad man. Turning into full Allardyce now too with his digs at the fans."

[CR]

That's the real point the dour Jock is sucking the life out of everything. The football is so negative. He clearly doesn't like creative players. I've seen enough. I hope he's gone soon because he's killing my love of the game. I know some want to blame the players but how many players have been dire for us and are now playing well for other teams.

[simon.s]

"The best hope we'll have of a half decent manager will be to get him in before the players fuck off for the WC, so as soon as possible. I very much doubt we'll go down, but Moyes is sucking the life out of this team, and after yesterday it seems the fans are losing patience with him finally. Won't be long before he starts cupping his ear, ala BFS, then we'll really know he's done. I'd want to aim higher than Parker, but Poch and Tuchel seem too unrealistic. Would have loved to see Emery here, but that ship has sailed."

[Takashi Miike]

"you could add Bowen to that list, who bar one or two games has been piss poor all season. not sure what's happened to him but the jock clearly doesn't use the same standard for him that are used for Benny"

[Mr. Burns]

"""We have some players who are very ineffective in their position: Lanzini DM Fornals LM/W Cresswell LB""ù Interesting point this. We all knew we needed a new last back and Moyes was always banging on bringing in players that improved the team/squad yet he won't pick this Emerson."

[Eerie Descent]

"Come On You Irons 3:55 Mon Nov 7 Shut up, you pus infected scab on the end of a genital wart."

[Huffers]

"Personally I don't think a couple of key players like the way Moyes sets up. Is Irvine not still at the club in some capacity? Pearce from what I saw on a match day just tended to do the Julian Dicks role of putting the cones out and throwing a few balls up for headers. Then he watched from the stands. I think Warburton is watching from the stands now but I'm not 100% on that. We are less effective from set pieces this season and Soucek is scoring less than ever, even less than the Soucek of last season. Ultimately we don't get up the pitch quick like we did a couple of seasons ago, most noticeably in the COVID year in the games against Leicester & Wolves - all of which were really good results at the time. Lingard was offering something that nobody else has since. Benrahma is the closest to replicating that but the shackles are on. I imagine if Redknapp was his manager he would be performing a lot better. We have a few very bad (on the ball) footballers: Dawson Last ditch player only. Why he has the ball more than any other players on the pitch, every single game is beyond me. Ben Foster said that Pepe Mel wanted to play out the back at WBA and him and Dawson had to go in and say they're not capable of that. Coufal God knows whats happened with him. He does not have a bad attitude at all so maybe he's just finished. Soucek Peter Crouch in midfield and thats offensive to Crouch. Antonio Terrible. We have some players who are very ineffective in their position: Lanzini DM Fornals LM/W Cresswell LB Combining the above, we often have 4-5 of those players on the pitch at any one time. 50% of your outfield team not effective, good or modern enough for the current game. Kehrer I'm not seeing the hype over. A good passer of the ball and thats it. Could see him in DM maybe. I was roundly abused multiple times last season when I said I would have pretty much any other teams CF over Antonio. I'll say it again, if he has more than 2 or 3 touches of the ball, its ending in disaster. He can score when the ball drops in front of him in the 6 yard box but I expect most people would. Bowen obviously hasn't reached last years heights. Paqueta needs to do the basics a bit better but he is getting 'assists' when he plays. Scamacca looked brilliant for a few games last month but isn't getting the service now. I think Aguerd & Cornet once integrated will improve it."

[Come On You Irons]

"""I really fucking hope so Manuel, but I think he'll do enough for the owners to keep him on. Enough being stay clear of relegation, which we will do, we have too many good players, luckily for the manager."" Delusional. How did that kind of arrogance work out in 2002-03 when Brown and the other muppets in the boardroom bottled out of terminating Roeder? The too good to go down talk is utter arrogance."

[Side of Ham]

"I don't want him sacked tbh because he seems to have the owners investing in him, but we are hoping for changes in his way of approaching games which isn't going to happen is it."

[Tomshardware]

The way we set up so defensively and Moyes cautious tactics are his downfall. His subs yesterday were baffling.

[goose]

"it's depressing but i don't see change coming. as per below, Kretinsky doesn't sound like someone who rushes into change. Sullivan deffo isn't. and if Moyes is still heavily involved in choosing scouts etc etc then he is not going anywhere."

[Sir Alf]

"Kandu- that's my hope or wishful thinking too that Aguerd coming into it and having a month will though distractions like a mini preseason will act as a reset. But tge reluctance to drop Soucek, Bowen and Earlier on Fornals and even Lanzini suggests the changes needed will not happen? And we will need to be a lot fitter and up tge pressing and running and get more pace. Cornet could help but might mean Moyes dropping Cresswell but again will he? Bowen needs benching or rotating with Antonio and we only have one striker in Scamacca season that urgently needs addressing Imo I hope Moyes proves me wrong and will gladly shout that from tge rooftops but I think holes in his recruitment and lack of experience and belief in a high press / possession game will mean more of the same in the New Year"

[Manuel]

"ED - Yep, he most likely will do enough to keep us out the bottom 3 and stop the crowd fully turning. After the WC with Aguerd back and maybe some others improving we most likely will plod through okay. But the question then is would you keep him for next season if not much improves, we are meant to be a side on the up, going backwards most definitely wasn't the plan."

[Eerie Descent]

"I really fucking hope so Manuel, but I think he'll do enough for the owners to keep him on. Enough being stay clear of relegation, which we will do, we have too many good players, luckily for the manager. Maybe a thumping like a 6-0 defeat against Leicester, but that won't happen. The whole season is going to be excruciating watching, apart from Thursday nights against a load of part time dry liners."

[Sir Alf]

"Thing Is even this Conference cup, Villarreal, Lazio, Fiorentina and a couple of other decent calibre teams now in the last 16. We won't beat anyone half decent."

[Kandu]

"Sir Alf 2:00 Mon Nov 7 Re: Moyes Out Just read thru last 6-10 pages. Unanimous on this site that we make the change. Not quite . I don't think he should go yet. It's not the West Ham way to sack managers at times like this. Maybe I'm misguided but I'd give him a bit longer. Small changes can often make a big difference. I believe I remember us struggling years ago and only due to injuries we brought Noble in and it transformed our season. Maybe Aguerd is that player . Maybe Paqueta will have a good WC and come back a different player. Less likely is that the board will trust Moyes with any more money in January. It's always a call between giving a manager time but knowing when to cut ties before we get into too much shit. I say we're not quite there yet but it's not looking good and heading that way unless something improves very very soon. I expect us to lose to Blackburn who are going well and probably get a drawer with Leicester. Tin hat on . Fire at Will""¶er kandu"

[Manuel]

"ED - It depends how bad the results are, if say he loses two then wins one, loses the next one then gets a draw etc he may cling on, but if we keep losing pretty much every week meaning possible relegation with awful football and the crowd turning etc, then the board won't even have a choice, he'll be gone. No PL manager can survive that and his position would become untenable."

[Swiss.]

Sir Alf 2:00 Mon Nov 7 I have to agree with all of that.As much as I think Moyes needs to go it is depressing to say G&S won't do unless we are in the bottom 3. By then it could be too late. In the short term the owners have only cared about finishing 17th and above. Křetínský might have other ideas but until he takes the majority share ultimately can a say but can be overriden So try and enjoy the EC as the PL will be a depressing ride this season. .

[Eerie Descent]

"""I'm hugely impressed by the work of David Moyes and his team who have improved results over a long period of time. ""This gradual evolution is, in my opinion, the most healthy way to build a strong club on a firm basis and with the right attitudes and culture. ""I speak from experience. We tried to rush the development of Sparta Prague a couple of years ago and the results were disappointing. The words of Kretinsky when he bought in. I'm not getting the vibes everyone else is in terms of big change..."

[13 Brentford Rd]

"We all know that we probably won't beat Leicester and are more likely to loose, and that they won't sack Moyes unless we go down or are looking favourites to go down come April/May. It's thoroughly depressing supporting this club whilst continually being stuck with greedy owners who have no ambition or idea how to run a successful football club. Our only hope is that they sell up as soon as the tax avoidance clause kicks in, and Kretinsky and co are the owners we deserve."

[Lee Trundle]

"""as the club are looking at extending Cresswells contract."" That's fucking madness, if true."