Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[master]

"Playing wingbacks with 2 fullbacks in the wide positions and 2 defensive mids, means we play with 7 defensive players. Add in Downes in a mental defensive attacking midfield position, it's 8. We simply don't get enough players into the box often enough to be a threat. 2 players doing all that forward work is ridiculous apart from against the likes of Man City etc."

[eusebiovic]

He must want the sack and the payoff. It's the only way to explain the way he set that team up last night... either that or he is struggling with some kind of mental block. Was Warburton his pick as coach? Doubt it. Were most of the signings his pick? Doubt it Has he lost the players? Quite probable. He will dig his heels in for the compo - he's as stubborn as his tactical approach.

[threesixty]

"Cornet being fit would actually change the dynamics at the front because he creates width and can cross. Unlike Bowen. I think he's actually got a better scoring ratio in the top flight than Bowen as well. And thats in a poor Burnley team. But a manager can not rely on one player to solve all your problems. You have 30 odd squad to call on plus academy so there are no excuses right now. I actually think our inaccuracy in front of goal is down to a: upgraded championship players who never had that level of skill / composure anyway b: lack of clear cut opportunities means we dont have composure and kind of ""snatch"" at opportunities instead of comfortably putting them away Moyes can solve b by changing the style of play."

[Chinkey Weasel]

"Stepney - I hope you're right and yes, I was astounded that we spent all that money last summer but the board will be looking at the bigger picture - a great European run last season and 2 solid premier league placings. The best we've done in a fucking long time but the signs were there with Moyes at the beginning of this year. Set out to not be beaten and nick the odd goal for a win. His loyalty to keep playing Soucek is astounding. His blatant agenda with Benrahma. Rice will go at the end of the season now and I can't blame him. We've got a very talented squad but Moyes hasn't got a clue how to get the best out of them. You can see it in the players body language. Ok, I massively give a fuck still but nothing surprises or annoys me anymore and that hurts to say. The board do not have the bollocks to rid of Moyes, As far as they are concerened, they've got too much to thank him for. And it will only be Warburton placed in charge until the end of the season, should they dare sack him. We have zero ambition other than to juyst survive as a premier league club"

[zico]

"Let's say Moyes plan is to play deep and hit teams on the break with pace, strength and guile. Do any of his summer signings fit into that philosophy? If they were brought in to play a more expansive attacking game then why does he persist with a deep counter attacking game plan?"

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Sir Alfs I get your point. It's possible that Emerson is a half-decent wing-back, though he's shown little evidence of it here. He's certainly a piss-poor left back. I've got no idea what Cornet is - IIRC he was touted as a left-back who could play centre-forward. I don't think he's either of those."

[threesixty]

"They're not sacking him regardless of the result on Saturday. On the other hand a result on Saturday means nothing either. The problem is consistent style of play that we can all believe in. We don't have one right now. If we were losing but we could see the formation of a new style and approach then I would be on board. But I see nothing. So if this continues into next year, regardless of where we end up (mid table, 17th etc..) I think he's done. Because no owner is going to give him anything like the money he's had this season and go backwards like this. It makes zero business sense. I think you really prove yourself as a manager based on how you can get out of shit that you caused yourself. Rodgers seems to be doing it. I've seen Klopp dig himself out of a hole as well. Can Moyes? Has he ever? Massive test of character for him in the next few months."

[Russ of the BML]

"twoleftfeet 2:05 Thu Nov 10 ""Be careful what you wish for"" What? A manager that can coach and inspire the players, who picks the right team / formations and sets up to go out and win rather than 'not lose'. That's what I wish for. Am I wrong for that? Under the circumstances, telling people the good Moyes has done is utter lunacy. It's like saying Chelsea shouldn't have sacked Mourinho first time round. Or Leicester shouldn't have sacked Ranieri. Stop living in the past. Football moves on. Clubs move on. We've outgrown Moyes with that ¬£180m investment. He can't cope with a big squad of decent players. He can't change systems or operate efficient rotation. His man management is questionable and he is not offering any solutions. He was great with the small sqaud where the eleven picked itself as he had no excuses. Now he's been found out. He looks tired and knackered. He's a miserable cսnt. Fuck him off now and get someone in who can turn it around once the WC finishes."

[Stepney.Ammer]

"Chinky I understand where you're coming with the no longer give a shit attitude, I was the same when fat Sam was in charge. I knocked going on the head and genuinely spent a while barley looking out for our results. The love for west ham I had was still there deep down and slowly I found myself balls deep emotionally invested again. I'm sure it'll be the same for you. I think you're wrong about the owners only caring about 17th place though. Maybe the dildo bros may think like that but I can't believe that over £180 million was invested in the squad to just aim for survival. I reckon the Czech has more ambition and is really the driving force in the background."

[Sir Alf]

"It's interesting that Emerson looks ""ropey""ù Surface. I watched him in a few Chelsea games and he looked very good but as an attacking wing back. Seems yet another player we are not using correctly? Moyes and Nevin just don't know another way to play ? Downes as an advanced midfielder is just bizarre to me ?"

[13 Brentford Rd]

"If we lose and drop into the bottom 3 at the weekend then I don't see how he stays on, especially with the break coming up and perfect opportunity to replace him. Any other club would sack him, even lesser clubs would. 3rd biggest spenders in world football and the football is dull, unambitious and ineffective. Been the same all calendar year, no fucking excuse, get rid before he ruins Scamacca & Paqueta as he did with Heller, Anderson and Vlassic who were then sold for peanuts. He's costing the club in the hundreds of millions, any other employer would not put up with it. OUT!"

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Unless they are a clown (Grant) or crook (Bungpuss),I'm usually the last to call for a manager to go. But as someone posted below, Moyes is showing all the signs of a manager in his death throes. So it's time to let him go with many thanks for a job well done and on to someone who can cope with a big squad full of (mostly) good players. Talking of mostly good players, someone was asking why we re-signed Cresswell. I'm guessing it's because he is still the least bad option at LB and shifting Emerson (and Cornet?) in order to bring in a player Cresswell can understudy is a higher priority."

[Sir Alf]

"I see Kral got a starring game review last night and Vlasic. Anyway I think the negative momentum is irreversible now even if Moyes and master tactician Nevin (negative England tactician too no surprise) were to try and change the approach. Waiting to read a detailed report on how players performed in the I'll conceived system last night but hoping at least that Downes and Aguerd and Emerson, Benny at least looked ok? Can only see a Leicester win on Saturday. I watched their game at Everton last week and they were impressive against a hard working and running Everton side. Their midfield opened up a very well organised midfield and defence and Barnes, Tielemens and Maddison were excellent. Sit back and they will dominate as lesser side have against us too these last 10 months. We can all see the system and selections Moyes and Nevin use is a busted flush but no signs of changing it. That will require different selections and playing players in their preferred roles. I suspect we have not even started drilling players to try and pass it out from the back. We only have the sit back and try not to concede approach which according to Antonio is designed around being a bit expansive from about 60-70 mins. Two thirds of the game deliberately sitting deep, remaining compact and keeping the shape. A 1990s tactic. Downes playing this stupid advanced role last night means Soucek still his number 1 We're out of ideas and sliding into the abyss."

[simon.s]

"In fairness to the owners, Moyes has hoodwinked them, and plenty of fans into thinking he really could take us forward. Hence them giving a decent amount of wedge to spend. But now we've got the dour sweaty back that we had first time around. I never wanted him in the first place, and even the flirts we've had with success has not changed my opinion, because ultimately he's a nearly man, who was never capable of taking us to the next level."

[11MDE]

"Anyone 'Moyes In' is quite frankly, very odd."

[Come On You Irons]

"He won't be sacked after going out of the lesser domestic cup on penalties. In fact, I'm sure the owners are quite pleased about that (remember Sullivan moaning about forking out for an away League Cup game at Everton a few years ago). Saturday should be make or break. Anything but a win and he should go. It is the most logical time to fire him, but we all know it is doubtful the cautious cretins in the boardroom will fire their cautious cretin of a manager. The longer Moyes is left in position, the more likely he will relegate us like he did Sunderland. Moyes OUT."

[marty feldman]

Il be astonished if he survives a loss on Saturday. Kretinsky won't tolerate a relegation battle he's got far too much invested in this club . and a quick look at that squad tells you It should and would be top 8 minimum under a semi competent manager .

[Irons10]

"Chinkey Weasel 11:07 Thu Nov 10 I feel exactly the same, I pray eventually West Ham ends up in good hands and them cunts go bankrupt"

[Vexed]

Why hasn't he been sacked yet? What's the point of delaying the inevitable?

[Chinkey Weasel]

"Totally agree grumps but unfortunately they will not sack him. Even if we lose 4-0 on Saturday. We are stuck with him. The owners would take 17th place right now. I can't even get annoyed about it anymore. Still, thousands upon thousands of our brilliant fans turn up regardless to keep lining their pockets so why the fuck would they change anything over there? In my 48 years supporting West Ham, it hurts to say it but I honestly couldn't give a fuck what happens anymore. I only feel sorry for my 13 year old son who I brainwashed into to being West Ham."

[cholo]

"Paqueta and Scamacca were added to the squad not just to increase numbers but to give the team more scope and ambition tactically, fact is we could've signed Mbappe, Neymar and Messi, Moyes would still serve up the same turgid shit."

[Stowie.40]

"Our league position wouldn't worry candidates atm but leave it any longer like I suspect they will then that's how you end up with Rafa or Dyche. The WC break is a unique opportunity, fucking use it West Ham, get on the blower to Brentford & convince Frank to come."

[Grumpster]

"I'll never knicker wet and will always support as much as I can, but has to be enough is enough with Moyes. Huge credit to him for stabilising the club as he did and we were even playing some half decent football, but it seems that as soon as 2022 started we have turned to absolute shit with him going back to the ways which made him despised amongst Everton fans. What sort of cսnt plays about 7 defensive players in a home game against lower league oppo? And we'll piss staying up regardless of him being here as there are some atrocious teams in the league this season, so how about we have some ambition for once."

[cholo]

Moyes has feet of clay. His negativity is strangling the team. Paqueta looks lost and Scamacca is turning into another Haller. Fact is prem teams quickly sus out the opposition these days and Moyes looks clueless on how to deal with it.

[Takashi Miike]

"""All the owners care about is staying in this league, anything else is an absolute bonus. And they'll probably gamble on Moyes being able to do that, and so would I."" absolute lunacy"