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"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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Post Kite »

"Can't help but feel, all or most of the summer signings were Sullivans. I still can't get my head around how badly wrong the summer recruitment was. Moyes always wanted to play a high press, fast attacking football, like the way we played in our 3-2 win away to Wolves. So what has changed, why did we go out and buy players not suited to that style. Even Rice came out and said it's like we have two different teams playing. At the start of the season everyone could see something wasn't right, Moyes made a few strange comments in press conferences, the body language of some players was can't be bothered, it was like they knew the players brought in were not right and were expecting a different type of player. Everyone seemed let down. Why has our fitness dropped, Moyes always said if you don't run you don't play, what happened to our set plays, it's like Moyes has given up, and Sullivan would do that to a manager. Getting rid of Moyes is just half the problem."
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"He's a dead man walking now if he wasn't already. Not trying anything different is evidence. He did a good job but couldn't adapt when his winning formula started to falter. No malice but in any business you adapt or die. The owner Sullivan is the problem again. His football ignorance combined with his inability to admit he's wrong or bring in fresh ideas or someone who will not do as they are told means we likely end up with someone worse. But the dice has to be rolled asap and even Dyche, Benitez or Parker would be a better bet. I saw a comment from Parker saying Soucek is a problem and not at the required levels for tge Premiership now. He's already got one thing right that Moyes is blind to. Of course we would love a breath of fresh air like a Tuchel but our owners are 2nd rate and not wealthy enough but like I say it's got to tge point where the above 3 mentioned managers can only do better than Moyes who's feeling the stress and resembles a cadaver !! :-(. ( back to the dead man walking theme) Simply put, thx Dave but move over"
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"I didn't say he's not a decent player, but he's been awful for us and was average at the World Cup. Being out of position is no excuse for not doing the basics."
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"Goose I blame Moyes for playing players out of position which contributes to them playing badly, if he is not that good or average then why is he playing for Brazil . Negative tactics always produce negative results."
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"For those calling for Poch, he has apparently relayed he wouldn't be interested owing to his Spurs connections and ongoing fondness for his former club. Hard to see beyond Dyche from the imagination-less board if they do part ways. Starting to feel like the doldrums are well and truly back for us after two seasons of great optimism. That song really is a curse more than an anthem!"
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West Ham losing games if football is the only thing you enjoy
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"I never wished this to happen you complete misery of a jerkstain. What you, PDC or than abusive cսnt Leonard thinks is irrelevant and of no interest. Your thoughts and knowledge of football is close to zero. So just fuck off the lot of you, and take Moyes with you"
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"We do need a change, I fear it would be Dyche or Benitez which wouldn't be an improvement, but I'd love Pochettino or Tuchel. My gripe is the hatred being thrown at Moyes by some on here, he has done a brilliant job for us and we should remember that BUT if he hangs on too long then that appreciation might start to wane. Who could ever forget the Sevilla home game."
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Players and manager had 2 weeks off during the worst run of form in this managers reign . Says everything about the way the club is run .
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""" I knew this would happen "" No you didn't. You wished it would happen but you DIDN'T know it would happen. Wishing and knowing are 2 different things. Moyes needs to go, I think most people agree on that, but your hatred for him is very sad. Whatever you may think of him he has given us something to cheer about and for that I will always be grateful. Whoever comes in will be hammered by you within a few months. Getting joy out of our current position is very strange."
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Fuck off Keep Dreaming you miserable cսnt You should be in prison
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"He should have been fucked off in June. January business and spring form showed what all now can see Howe or Potter should be our manager now. But look at us now. Free falling and possibly on the road to the championship. Deservedly so, but fuck me that would be the a major disaster. I knew this would happen"
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"I think with Scamacca there is a definite player in there. He has already shown with some of the goals he's scored that with the right manager and tactics he can score goals in any team imo. Paqueta is someone I am conflicted on. He obviously has some talent but is he capable of doing it in a decent league? It's all very well looking good for Brazil against South Korea surrounded by great players and having all the time and space in the world but playing for a team that aren't going to dominate matches in a league where you don't get a lot of time and space means you get found out very quickly. The fact that we are still debating what his best position is almost feels like he's one of those players that can do a job in multiple positions but isn't a master in any of them. The same could be said about Kehrer. What is his specialist position exactly? He doesn't seem to master any of them. Maybe we should sign players that specialise in a particular position and are actually good at it. Even with the likes of Bowen, Antonio & Cornet you will get differing opinions on what their best position actually is. Tony Cottee was a striker who scored goals. Alvin Martin was a centre back. It's not hard. We have too many players that can play in multiple positions but aren't great in any of them."
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*it could really hurt this club long term
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"All the players we signed, bar Emerson, were doing superbly for their former clubs, and will do well once they leave the club, if this manager is still in charge when they leave. Haller had a very good career before he joined us, looked good before Moyes come in, looked fucking appalling under Moyes, left, and was absolutely superb at his next club. It is staggering just how bad we've become. I said previously that us getting results against Fulham & Wolves could be detrimental, as it would paper over cracks. That's exactly what happened. I fear a result against Brentford will do the same, it could really just this club long term, because the sooner he goes, the less long term damage will be done."
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"norflondon The players he bought are good players. Its clearly the coaching and tactics/formation. The players we have bought are international 1st choice players. Paqueta, Scamaca, Kherer, Aguerd. It's inconceivable that these are bad players. They are seen in training for the country by their FA's and coaching setups and are 1st on the team sheet. Even Coufal and Soucek are first choice, so is Benhrama I beleieve. What is the likelyhood of all these players been shit vs the coach being the one who is shit? Its not logical. Look at what Eddie Howe has done for Joe Linton and Almiron at Newcastle. Players that looked shit and now they are transformed. Even average players with good coaching and tactics can produce title winning sides (Leicester). I'm not having it that Paqueta is shit, shit for us yes, but shit? Brazil first 11 but shit... please!"
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It's strange that if Scamacca and Paqueta are so poor why most on here we're pleased we were signing them. Granted Emerson and Kehrer I wasn't too fussed about but we're arguably a step in the right direction to who we were currently in those positions. Still think it's down to management of the new players as to why they are under performing.
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"master The key thing about that stat is City rotate heavily, so their starting 11 are rarely knackered and always motivated Us by contrast would really benefit from adroit use of a 5 man bench"
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Not sure we can judge any of these players until Moyes goes. It is clear that the tactics and general lack of movement make it very difficult to play passing football. Moyes sucks the life out of creative players or those that don't suit his system.
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I am unwilling to judge the newer players until we stop playing this low defensive block crap. Let's be honest Brentford are going to play high energy high line against us we are going to be lucky to lose by a goal or 2 If the board haven't already sounded out potentials they are idiots
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"MON August 08, 2022 Manchester City used their substitutes' bench less often than any team in the Premier League or the English Football League last season, PA news agency analysis reveals. Substitutes accounted for only 4.5 per cent of Man City's Premier League playing time in 2021-22, the lowest share of minutes in England's top four tiers. Apart from City, West Ham were the next-most reluctant to use their bench, awarding just 4.9 per cent of minutes to substitutes. Not much will have changed."
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"GB, sorry but Scmacca is not a great player, I don't care if he is the Italian CF he isn't good enough for this league. Same with Paqueta, it's easy strolling around Brazil's midfield playing mostly against sub standard players dominating the ball, I've seen sweet FA to warrant 50m. He can't run, can't pass particularly great, I don't see anything he excels at. It's on the manager that he has signed this load of shit and it's was gonna cost him his job."
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"Pacqueta was average at best at the WC. You can't blame Moyes for his inability to make simple passes, or strolling around hands on hips."
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"Goose I saw enough of Pacqueta playing for Brazil to see why he is picked for Brazil , Moyes has this ability to turn good players into shite players with constantly playing them out of position, the list is to long to prove wrong."
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Sixty The only two players I've seen look anything above average is the keeper and the centre half that is always injured. I hope Paqueta and scammaca ckme good but I've seen absolutely nothing to tell me they have what it takes to succeed in the premier league under any manager Kehrer and Emerson are simply just dreadful footballers
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