Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[marty feldman]

Bielsa will turn this nonsense around. Paqueta scamacca cornet benrhama fornals lanzini Antonio Bowen soucek there's 9 players more than capable of at least 9 goals or assists. add rice aguerd zouma. It's hardly the shit squad the north London propaganda queens want our gullible fans into believing.

[marty feldman]

Twoleftfeet go up to Leeds and ask their fans he is absolutely idolised.

[Charoo]

"Stubbo - I also think Bielsa could be the right fit for us. Only thing is how long it would take to get the players properly fit. The age of our squad concerns me for his style of football, some youth would need to be brought in or through. 2 full backs a CB and CF at least would be needed with youth and exuberance. Players like Ashby, Aguerd, Downes, Rice, Benrahma, Cornet, Scammaca, Fornals, Bowen, Muamba I could see fitting. Paqueta, Emerson, Lanzini, Johnson, possibly Cresswell, Soucek, Coufal, Ogbonna, Antonio, Dawson definitely not. I think we'd still lose a fair few but our style of play would be so much better and we'd have enough to win more than enough to stay up."

[stubbo]

"Bielsa's end at Leeds wasn't really all his own making. He suffered more than anything from Bamford's and Phillips perpetual injuries robbing him of his main goal scorer, and his best midfielder. He's still hugely revered by Leeds fans. IMO he'd build a side that played in a way that resonates with West Ham fans. Always up for the fight, always taking it to the oppo, full effort, pockmarked with heavy defeats and glorious victories, and a broader football community view of a team people view as their second favourites. He's got a hint of crazy about him like. Di Canio that always goes down well with us...and he made average players better than the sum of their parts at Leeds. What's not to like about him?"

[master]

Playing most of his youth team coz his main players had suffered injuries.

[RBshorty]

The SPIVS ain't going to pay another manager out of he's contract. They trying their hardest not to pay there own manager any money if they can help it. They really believe there are 3 worse teams than us in the division.

[twoleftfeet]

How did it end at Leeds for him?

[Gaffer58]

"If Biesla got the job the players wouldn't know what had hit them after their first training session, look at Leeds, no real world beaters but the fittest players in the league and would run all day."

[master]

"What makes him suitable? Well, Wiki helps us all, sometimes. He has had success in many roles. Early with VfR Aalen, where he got them promoted from Bundesliga 3 (or 3 Bundesliga?) and then took them to the top half the next season, and eventually left without any downturn in fortunes. Ingolstadt: In his first season, he took them from bottom of the 2. Bundesliga to tenth place. In the 2014""ì15 season, Hasenh√ºttl took Ingolstadt to the Bundesliga for the first time, finishing the season as 2. Bundesliga champions. In the 2015""ì16 season, he was successful in securing Ingolstadt's Bundesliga survival, finishing in 11th place RB Leipzig: In his and the club's debut season in the Bundesliga, Hasenh√ºttl guided Leipzig to a second-place finish. The following season, the club finished sixth. He resigned. Southampton: This is the one you know him from and the one where his achievements are belittled because, apparently, the only context to analyse a coach is league position and cups won. As such, the fact that he basically only signed young players, as far as I can see never spent over ¬£20m on a single player, played attractive football on the front foot, coached a team of young players and older heads to press effectively as a team, always kept them in the division even with restrictions on his business, was comfortable playing those young players, developing them and then moving on when they were sold. Look at those young players: Broja, Livramento, Perraud, Salisu, Kyle Walker-Peters, Adams (was 23? when bought). Those players would never have been given a chance with us, but their values have all probably tripled for being coached by him. It is no coincidence. He's always kept them in the league, with a varied approach that values on hard work and on the ball ability. They were never a tippy-tappy side, they had levels and ways to win. If he had won the Championship with them, people would cream over him, but the harder achievement of staying up and competing in the Premier League isn't sexy enough, frankly. Michael Carrick and Vinny Kompany are doing fine jobs, but they've done nothing to compare to Hasenhuttl's job at Southampton or his work before then. Chris Wilder got people here wet for a season, he's not got half the CV. We are at the level we are, and that level should be seeing someone achieve like that in clubs like those and giving them the platform to do it with a better budget and higher expectations. We can all dream of Champions League winning Thomas Tuchel taking his next job at West Ham, but it's insane. He's done brilliantly abroad, moved here and shown he can do it."

[master]

Even Wenger lost 8-2.

[master]

2 games where they lost heavily. He picked them back up off the floor both times.

[Ron Eff]

Good tacticians do not lose 9-0 in Premier League games twice! Hassenhutl is a terrible shout.

[master]

"Bielsa or Hassenhuttl feel like the only realistic choices now. I'd go for Ralf, he's a good tactician who was given sod all in the summer and paid the price. Plays progressive football and has a decent record."

[master]

"Why is that after a full pre season Moyes can't get a tune out of our players, but Emery can come in and within a few weeks completely turn around Villa? Believe they've only lost to Liverpool. Potter did the same with Brighton over one summer, getting 3 6 foot 7 defenders to play football with their feet."

[Jasnik]

Lingard was injured after playing and lossing to ManU.

[Meerkat]

"Swindon , you back up my point about Cooper in your own sarcastic way . He is managing to get a tune out of as you say about 20 players , many of whom He did not buy . Contrast that to our clown who cannot integrate less than half that number of players . Cooper it seems has generated a team spirit in very difficult circumstances and has the cojones to drop non performing prima donnas like Lingard . He may not keep them up , or be sacked by a loon of an owner, but he looks like a manager on the up to me ."

[swindon hammer]

"Meetkat, you do know that Forest signed about 20 players this summer and not all of them were Cooper's choices right? You do also realise that despite Cooper doing such a good job at the moment they are currently behind us in the league?"

[nychammer]

He is managing Forest who are a big club and currently have a chairman who's backed him to the hilt why would he come here?

[Willtell]

Why are there any debate about Moyes statements that he has the final say on signings? Is it because no-one can believe Moyes is an incompetent clueless cսnt so blame Sullivan because we know he's got previous?

[Meerkat]

Another battling point by Forest . The more the season goes on the more a good job Cooper is doing . Maybe he is the manager we should be going after !

[Meerkat]

"Kite - I agree with your view re the owners ineptitude and interference . It's impossible for us to know definitively who was signed by Moyes , Sullivan or combination of the two . Also throw in what influence Newman has . If Moyes is not responsible for the majority of the signings why then is he still with the club ? His stock was still relatively high last summer - he could have resigned as a matter of principle and more than likely would have got a job immediately or within a few months at most."

[GBHammer63]

Does

[GBHammer63]

"Ones anybody know if we're in a relegation battle yet? Perhaps someone could let Sully, Moyes and Dec know."

[Side of Ham]

Only a few of those have got near our support in numbers you div....

[twoleftfeet]

Newcastle Sunderland Derby Portsmouth Nottingham Forest Aston Villa Everton Birmingham Shall I continue?