Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[paulon]

Benitez the rumour AG fucking AG

[british is best]

Betting has been suspended on Moyes getting the sack .

[zico]

"Stowie - They always get another job. Sport is probably one of the few areas you get rewarded for failure. Avram Grant walked into Partizan Belgrade, Pardew was in charge at Charlton weeks later. Of course some of them deserve another chance due to circumstances making a job difficult, some don't deserve another chance but do, and some never get another chance despite once again circumstances making a job difficult. Boards never learn though, because a manager will never resign these days because the pay off is too big. A manager may have a good year and suddenly the board panics that another club may come in for the manager, board gives them a new three or four year contract , wheels come off and board have to pay them off to get rid of them. The late Glenn Roeder was a prime example. Should never have been given the job in the first place but the board did only give him a year contract. He had a good season and they extended it by three or four years, Cue wheels falling off."

[Eerie Descent]

"They're not sacking him before Everton, clearly. If we beat Everton, we are guaranteed not to pick up points in our next 3 games. If we lose, and he's replaced, we do have a chance of picking points up in all 3 games. We need to lose Saturday. The football club 100% needs it."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

We don't play the same way as what was successful to have been found out tactically. We don't counter attack or high press anymore. We now look void of any offensive tactics. Even our success at set pieces has been reduced to one simple in swinging corner into the six yard area that continually fails.

[Westside]

"A slightly shit analogy - but I'm going to use it anyway - comes from cricket. I reckon you're spot on. I'd also add, that as a result of opposition research, our set pieces, a previously very reliable supply of goals, has dried up."

[Sir Alf]

"I think so many are just dumbfounded and speechless that this man has not been sacked. It's jaw dropping incompetence all round. A form of self harm that again needs an ""intervention""ù by fans for something to change."

[Nick QQQ]

can't believe he's still in a job. it's fucking ridiculous. It's like calling when you have 19 in blackjack.

[Vexed]

He's trying to get sacked isn't he? This Alverez stuff is absolutely fucking bonkers. What a cսnt. That decision could have cost us the Europa League final at the very least. What an absolute fucking wanker.

[Stowie.40]

"Course he ain't getting another job after this, I always said he would never get a job better than the one he has. His reputation was on the floor when he came here and to be fair he had rebuilt it but if he gets this side relegated then no cսnt is gonna touch him. Maybe the jock job when it comes up."

[southbankbornnbred]

"A slightly shit analogy - but I'm going to use it anyway - comes from cricket. There, opponents use video/data analysis to work out a batman's strengths and weaknesses - and then bowl to those weaknesses. It's then up to the batsman to improve against those weaknesses and find a way of getting back on top of bowlers. It's a constant game of cat and mouse driven by video/data. Look what happened to Gooch in the middle of an Ashes series once, when the Aussies worked out that he was bit ""uppish"" when driving through the leg side - and put a fielder on that position. It stopped his flow of runs, and Gooch had to drop himself and go and work in the nets to improve his technique. Then he came back, stronger. Same with Pietersen - sides worked out that he got too wild and lairy with slow left-arm spin. Moyes' counter-attacking tactic of the previous two years has been worked out. Teams press us high up the pitch and prey on technical weaknesses of Soucek and defenders who can't pass their way through that high press when under pressure. So teams pin us in our own half for most of the game and Moyes hasn't worked out how to counter it. We need a new manager with new (modern) ideas."

[Stevethehammer]

"Moyes always reverts to type and seems to have this idea that grinding out a win look better. The Leeds match was the prime example. 1-0 down and we battled well, got back into it, 2-1 he then panics and goes all defensive to try and grind out the win. We was onto something by continuing to attack, yet he sits back let's them come onto us and we get lucky to escape with a point. This isn't a one off either, it's the same usual bollocks every week. The winning team makes 5 subs, keeping it fresh, tempo high etc, he makes 2/3. Showing he doesn't know how to utilise his squad. He needs binning"

[southbankbornnbred]

"I'm not going to slag off Moyes too much - we did have two good seasons under him. But savvy teams have used their data analysis to work us/him out - and did so at the back end of last season. That's what happens in modern football where clubs have access to every bit of data on why, for example, Soucek can't pass when under pressure. Since last February, Moyes has struggled massively because he is wedded to a (now) failing approach. Teams found Moyes' weak point, and (unlike better managers) he hasn't been good/flexible enough to respond or adapt. He's had plenty of time (almost a year now) and the situation is only getting worse. He's got nothing left. He has to go. Now."

[Stevethehammer]

"Winning against Everton will only hide the fact we need a change. Can you really see us going on a little run especially with the games we have coming up. I can't see us grinding out a point at Newcastle let alone a win, under the old tried and tested methods. We won't take the game to Spurs who aren't the best defensively and Chelsea in recent weeks have been all over the place and are probably licking their lips at the thought of playing us in a few weeks. These next 3 games won't define our season in my opinion, look at April where we have winnable games, but we need at least some sort of tactical plan, some form and some fucking desire to make a fight of it going into the last 18 games of this season and I just can't see Moyes getting us out of it."

[Crassus]

"The cսnt should not have got another job after Sociedad, let alone Sunderland"

[southbankbornnbred]

FS - agree with every word of that.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Lee Trundle 6:00 Mon Jan 16 Shows what a bobbins cսnt this bloke really is. Honestly don't think he'll get another job after we finally pull the trigger.

[Crassus]

"You just know that we are going to win Saturday, then keep him - it's inevitable"

[factory seconds]

"genuinely think we're only staying up if we both win on saturday then sack moyes. 18 points is a woeful return after 20 games, but at least will give the new bloke a couple more points to brace the storm coming after we lose the next three in a row. 15 points will leave us cut adrift by the end of that run, almost regardless of who we get in. winning on saturday staying with moyes until that horror run seals his fate will certainly doom us as there will be nobody worth giving a toss about who will come here with 18 points, 23 games played and nailed to the bottom."

[Crassus]

"Let's face facts, they are not binning him before Everton are they If that was to have happened it would have been done by now, so they are keeping the Scotcher cսnt Hence his presser today telling the fans that we owe him one for all the 'success' and we should back him - he knows he is getting dogs abuse Saturday and is trying to deflect it"

[nychammer]

"""And even if we replace him, my personal view is that needs to happen this week - to give the new boss a shot at three points against Everton."" YES YES and thrice YES. I'll be sounding like a broken record by Friday but this game is massive and I dont want Moyes anwhere near it"

[nychammer]

How deluded can Moyes really be? https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/16/manchester-united-west-ham-boss-david-moyes-open-to-returning-to-club-18109343/?ito=newsnow-feed

[southbankbornnbred]

"If he's here for the Everton game, and we don't win it, then in my opinion I think we're going to be relegated this season. There is zero chance we will stay up with Moyes in charge - he has been royally found out, tactically, and has had absolutely no response for eleven months (the wheels fell off at the end of February 2022). And even if we replace him, my personal view is that needs to happen this week - to give the new boss a shot at three points against Everton. Lose or draw to Everton with Moyes - who are also appalling - then the opening three games for any new boss will be Newcastle, Chelsea and Spurs. By which time we will be absolutely fucked. We're heading down right now - and this week is far more important than some complacent fans and officials believe. The season only gets a LOT harder after Everton. Moyes is not equipped for it."

[Irons10]

Eerie Descent 4:28 Mon Jan 16 agree 100%

[Feed Me Chicken]

Remember he turned Maddison down aswell btw. Anyway it's late Monday afternoon so looks like we're stuck with him for at least 1 more loss. Fucking clowns.