Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[LJC]

Latest rumours: Moyes in charge for Saturday Nolan going to Portsmouth Bielsa going Mexico

[Sir Alf]

"I mentioned in the Jan Transfer thread and many others have questioned whether Irvine was key to everything or is it just coincidence that him taking a step back then leaving has been in step with our decline in terms of running and fitness? The same problem of no plan B would still be there but we look a half baked mess of pensioners just now. Gawd knows. It will be one of those u answered questions or be revealed in a year or so when he's gone. And Flynn Downes? The mystery around him not getting a chance, even 30 mins in the Premiership despite being the best or one if the best central defensive midfielders in the Championship ? Not quite Kral level fvckwittery from Moyes but absolutely bewildering to me and many others. Would love to know the rationale if there is one?"

[Lee Trundle]

"Considering how cock out Moyes got over the Red Bull model, it seems like he's gone out of his way to do the exact opposite to what they do. We've got the oldest squad in the league, we've got youngsters with decent potential wanting to leave left, right and centre. I mean, have a look at his interview where he describes how he saw the club when he first joined. ""When I came in, the big thing was the team had been conceding a lot of goals and had very little energy on the pitch,""ù ""We were bottom of the physical stats in nearly everything in the Premier League. I didn't think that was necessarily to do with the players."" He's basically described there what we are currently now. Here's the full interview: https://trainingground.guru/articles/david-moyes-west-ham-need-to-follow-red-bull-model-of-recruitment"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Nah, don't worry: get the point you're making. I think most fans feel a change is long overdue. I defended Moyes even at the back end of last season, because although I could see that he struggled from February onwards, I wondered whether he would spend the summer analysing problems and react to them. Doesn't feel like he did - we've just got worse and worse for many months! I'm not one for changing managers often, but it is overdue. Moyes' failure is embedded. But what are the chances that the fans, and club, get a manager we genuinely deserve? Nobody has touched Lyall or Greenwood since. Oh for a modern day version of either."

[marty feldman]

All the players signed last summer are good players maybe kehrer being the exception. Then again Moyes has destroyed his confidence as well . under a decent manager he might come good. It's no exaggeration to say that Moyes in the past year has looked by far the worst manager I've seen here . Roeder and grant would have got more from these players.

[Lee Trundle]

"You could have said you'd missed off a 0 at the end of 50, and I still would have believed you! Both are yesterdays men, and I'd want neither. I just think Allardyce is/was the better manager. He left the club in a much better position than when he joined, and he actually won something (the play-off final). Moyes won't be able to say either. It was very much said tongue in cheek, so I don't want this descending into an Allardyce argie bargie."

[Westham67]

"southbankbornnbred 5:25 Wed Jan 18 Exactly its not just the gate money TV money and merchandise, The fans should have a bigger say, I admire Hammers United I went to the march and the West Ham shop and Anne Summers in Lakeside with a big GSB out sign"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Sorry, that should read 'Allardyce and Moyes are nowhere the top 20 managers in the world.' I clipped '50' instead. Although now I think about it..."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Trunds - I don't care for either of them. We're the 17th or 18th biggest side in the WORLD by revenues. The likes of Allardcye and Moyes are nowhere near the top 50 managers in the world. Until this club starts matching its staff (including players) with its genuine capacity then we will always under-achieve. We still have a two-bob Steptoe and Son approach to football - yet we are surprisingly wealthy by most standards: because we have a tsunami of fans who pay to watch (live or TV), buy the merchandise etc."

[Westham67]

BFS would love it.Its his bread and butter dross stay up football

[southbankbornnbred]

"TM - famously Rice, of course. He has thrived under Moyes. But you could say that he is so good that he'd most likely thrive under any manager. Moyes was not without his benefits before he got worked out - we shouldn't rewrite history. But he is a one-trick pony, and has been royally found out. The wheels fell off almost a year ago (something the luvvie media have not realised) and we have been shite ever since. He had a plan, it worked impressively for a bit. Then it was rumbled - and he's too embedded and inflexible to stop the rot."

[Lee Trundle]

"This will probably go down like a sack of spuds on here, but in my opinion Allardyce > Moyes. (for those who have difficulty understanding on here, this isn't me suggesting I want Allardyce, just that I think he's a better manager)"

[Bernie]

"Moyes spent a lot of the summer chasing his targets, of which I reckon he only got one in Aguerd, the likes of Lingard/Broja pied us off, as the squad was so short we were then left with players suggested from elsewhere that we knew would come and have now been left with a squad of good players, but they're not Moyes players and get can't work out how to get the best out of them. Not all Moyes fault, but he has to go and replaced with someone that can get the best out of Scamacca/Paqueta/Downes. And buy a couple of fucking full backs"

[Takashi Miike]

all the cunts that blindly stuck by moyes deserve another round of allardyce. I hope it happens as it will increase the chances of a burnley mk2

[62Hammer]

Now I'm really confused. I was certain I wanted Moyes out and was even hoping for defeat against Everton in the hope that it would end his time here. But if Allardyce is going to be his replacement....I need to think about this!

[Sir Alf]

We're left with Dyche or Warbarton/Noble Sully will like the latter option. Cheaper

[Huffers]

He has been relegated. Twice. Once from the PL.

[arsegrapes]

"Allarderci has never been relegated, which will appeal to Sullivan"

[arsegrapes]

"I agree Moyes is looking to get sacked so he doesn't get the blame for relegation on his CV ruining his reputation and wants the £7m compensation. Loads have done similar. Any manager with a decent record won't come as they also won't want relegation on their CV ruining their reputation. Looks like we will end up with a firefighter like Allardyce. Speaking of the fish head munching Walrus, looks like he's thrown his hat in the ring. https://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=137699"

[Sir Alf]

Simple equation: Man owning football club who doesn't know what he's doing ( in terms of the football side of the business) + Man managing the football team who doesn't know what he's doing = players not knowing what they're doing and relegation

[Takashi Miike]

"""Some of the players we bought are 'duds' in the sense that they are clearly not David Moyes players. So they're 'dud' choices for a team coached by that manager."" what players has he improved? Dawson's the only one I can think of, possibly Arnie too but both want/wanted to fuck off after being flogged to death by him. Moyes players don't exist in 2023"

[Ron Eff]

"I've seen enough of Scamacca to know he's not a dud. He'll show true worth under new management. Equally, I don't think Paqueta is a dud. The problem with him is I think, because of our manager, that he is a 10 and was going to be our new maverick/new Payet. What we've actually bought is a centre midfielder who links play, can pick passes with the picture on front of him, and who's defensive work is underrated, but he will be best alongside a stronger midfielder (Rice), and a more advanced 10 who drops in to make or a three when defending. He is the classic playmaker. Took Brazil's manager showing us for Moyes to realise what he had bought though."

[BillyJenningsBoots]

"All this talk of having to get another striker is futile cos Moyes will only play one at time... If he wanted to go 2 up top he could use Antonio as the foil to win and chase leaving Scamacca to pick up the knock downs and work on a relationship, but he has chosen not to. Or he could use Benrahma as a 10 to play with him upfront, again Moyes system is always 1 up so Benny will have to play a less forward role leaving the gap and isolating Scamacca.. I think we have the players it's the system that's failing so change it... fit the system to the players you have not the other way round..."

[whu]

"not worth repeating as so many have said it, but i will it is a managerial issue 100%... stale, bertie basic keep a clean sheet only mentality, devoid of plan b, not good enough for this squad, stubborn, leaves form players out and so on paquetta and aguerd are not duds, far from it.... if no tune, see above lack of 2023 managerial requirements"

[southbankbornnbred]

"In all fairness to Haller, who I felt was a waste of money for a David Moyes team, he was the same: a good player who needs to play in a partnership. Haller became a household name because of his partnership with Jovic. Then we banged him upfront on his todd in key games. He looked lost and isolated. Now we look like we've repeated the mistake with Scamma. The problem is Moyes and current West Ham, not some of these players."