Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[AKA ERNIE]

How the fuck are some of accepting dyche as a good option ? Hes as ngative as moyes and is as tactically unaware as well. Jesus fucking christ if dyche is the best option we are fucked

[oioi]

"I reckon Dyche will be our manager on Sunday no matter what the result is on Saturday. Deal done. If Moyes goes to Everton Sullivan won't have to pay compensation to get Moyes out, obviously nothing to pay to get Dyche in. Win win"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Exactly! Don't get me wrong - I'm not one of those misplaced fans who thinks their team should always be winning everything all of the time. But the fact that West Ham haven't won anything for 42 years, while now being among the world's elite clubs in cash terms due to a huge fanbase etc, is a big underachievement. I always come back to the point that, since we last won a major trophy, the likes of Wimbledon, Coventry, Norwich, Oxford, Luton, Wigan, Swansea, Birmingham, Portsmouth and Leicester have all won major trophies. We are MASSIVE under-achievers on the pitch. It's just a good job that, as fans, we're not glib glory hunters and there's more to supporting the club than just silverware."

[theaxeman]

We need someone the opposite if dyche and moyes! Someone who does well with some money!!!

[Sir Alf]

"I share many of the same reservations about Dyche but we have to try a change and don't see the club, under Sullivan, ever going for or attracting a younger, progressive manager"

[theaxeman]

Top 15 and we've won fuck all for 43 years! Quite remarkable our fanbase. Just imagine if our owners weren't so small time.

[southbankbornnbred]

"The new Deloitte figures should help guide how we (as fans) also act and expect in the near future. We are a top-15 club in the world by revenues. But West Ham has been run as a Steptoe and Son operation for decades - and, in many ways, still is. Having a manager like Moyes is not a top-15 club. Signing 30+ injury prone players like Ings (who I actually quite like when he's fit) is not a top-15 club. We don't have the facilities of a top-15 club. etc etc. We shouldn't get too carried away with the revenues issue (Newcastle, for example, will have more than us since that table was compiled) - and we don't want to come across as fans who have an inflated sense of our own importance. That's not what we're like. But, equally, we should now start pressuring the club to look, act and feel like a club that is in the top 15 in the world by revenue. Because we currently look and feel like a shambolic outfit plummeting towards the Championship."

[LJC]

How many of those top 15 sides are joint bottom and need someone with his attributes? Rewind a few months and I doubt he would have been entertained

[threesixty]

"I think it's horses for courses as far as football management goes. Just because Dyche did well with no money and zero expectations it doesn't follow that with more money and expectations he would do well. Same thing has happened to Moyes. There are bosses that work better with no name players who they can motivate/ bully or whatever. And then there are managers that can deal with expensive, top level players. I think they are totally different jobs. I think it's why Porchettino isn't really an elite level manager. He's not up there with the Peps , Klopps, Conte's etc. We need a coach who has a philosophy that chimes well with players we want to attract in the future. A coach that knows how to play on the floor for a start. A coach that actually likes players with technique before they look at work rate. You can fix work rate but you can't fix technique. You either have it or not. Why get someone who can run really hard if you have someone who can ping the perfect ball? Football is about letting the ball do the work not the player ultimately."

[arsegrapes]

Dyche is ex Wall should fit right in.

[Willtell]

So Dyche is becoming the acceptable option to Moyes now? Forgive me but what other Top 15 World's Richest Clubs would Dyche even be on a short list of potential managers? It's a short term replacement option that we'll be regretting for many seasons to come...

[Stevethehammer]

"As manager of Burnley, Dyche's biggest transfer fee was Ben Gibson and Chris Wood both for 16 million each. 16 million!! Peanuts really in comparison to what we have spent. Now imagine what he could do with a budget 10x that amount. His style wasn't great, but he made his Burnley teams hard to beat, he got the best out of average players who would run through brick walls for him. He had an identity to his teams and has openly admitted, his style wasn't what he really wanted but he made do with what he had and got the best out of what he had to work with. Compare that to Moyes who has done (adding in Ings) almost 200 million in 2 windows and we sit joint bottom. Dyche gets a rough ride by some, but I think he is a solid, no nonsense manager who deserves the chance at a bigger club. Taking a punt on him, wouldn't be the worst idea."

[zico]

"I think Irvine stepping back had a major effect, along with Pearce and Noble. Remember Pardew's fall from grace when Peter Grant went to Norwich? A good assistant is massive and it's something Fergie kept getting right at United. As for Dyche, in many ways I think he would be decent. Looks like the sort who won't take any shit but has a sense of humour that can only be good for team spirit. Will certainly get them running. Only thing against him would be the style of play at Burnley. I'd love Poch but we are kidding ourselves that he would come."

[theaxeman]

"How is dyche's reputation for shit long ball football unfair? Burnley were fucking awful, long ball, time wasting negative merchants. Dont give me they didn't have the players etc, plenty of teams have come up and stayed up as long as Burnley playing good football."

[Pedro]

Any half decent manager would keep us up. As I have said it is not a tough job. Whoever it is better take the cups seriously. That is one plus with Moyes. He has taken the cups seriously since he has been here.

[Sir Alf]

"Manuel let's hope so and Dyche has yet to actually fail. At Watford, his first job, he was removed by the owners but was doing ok with limited resources. At Burnley, lowest budget by far in the Premiership every season and kept them up against the odds for a long while. It might be a disaster but might be one of those ""serendipity""ù things of unexpected success when forced to change something? One thing is certain, he will have to be a bit lucky too to survive the managers graveyard at West Ham and working for a deranged dwarf in a Russian hat"

[CanningTownWA]

"17th Biggest club in the World, 4th highest gate in Europe and 3rd biggest summer spend yet we are equal 20th in the league on points. Even if we do beat Everton he should be replaced. We should be able to attract any big or decent manager wether they are employed already or not. We should not be limiting ourselves to who we can get especially just the unemployed. Noble needs to think big and not be a lap dog to Sullivan."

[Manuel]

"Alf - Yea, maybe Dyche has got an unfair tag as a long ball manager after his time with Burnley, when in reality he had to play to their strengths to keep them up etc. He's meant to be an intelligent bloke and a good coach, so like you say with better players he might change his approach. Would certainly prefer him to the waiter."

[LJC]

I'm actually coming round to the idea that Dyche could just get us out of this

[Sir Alf]

Might be wishful thinking diehard but I like it nonetheless :-). Not excited by the idea of Dyche but he has not been given a chance at a richer club and does seem to get players giving 110% in terms of running and effort which for a while worked for Moyes too. He's 51 and hopefully a student of the game and will try to get us playing like say Brighton. That would be the hope. Just need Moyes gone now for his and everyone's sake. He did a good job but could not progress us any further as evidenced over the last year.

[ted fenton]

easthammer 2:07 Thu Jan 19 Blimey

[diehardhammer]

"I think Moyes and his staff have been told Saturday is his last game Coaching staff getting linked with moves away, Everton rumoured to want Moyes anyway, signing ings an ex dyche player that doesn't suit Moyes style Seems to be too many coincidences here, just feels like everything being set up for Moyes to Everton and dyche in to replace him"

[easthammer]

"Ted An old mate of mine is an Everton fan and his daughter works for a football agent in the North West, related this story to me just before World Cup. I didn't post it because it seemed like made-up bollocks. He claimed that it was the reason Moyes hadn't been sacked because West Ham was just waiting for Lampard to get the push, and Moyes would be ""reluctantly"" let go to fulfil his unfinished business at Everton. West Ham would not be faced with sacking Moyes and paying compensation, and Moyes would not lose face. West Ham would go for a top manager. Two months on Lampard has clung on, West Ham are still trying to avoid paying Moyes out but now in a much worse situation and no chance of getting a top manager .But I now think we might well see Moyes at Everton"

[ted fenton]

"Hahaha I bet the Everton supporters would love this !!! Everton may be tempted to replace manager Frank Lampard, 44, with former boss David Moyes, 59, despite the Scot's position at West Ham being under threat, with both clubs in the Premier League relegation zone. (Sun) C&P BBC"

[Willtell]

"It wasn't just Irvine that left last summer Sir Alf. Stuart Pearce was the kind of man that wouldn't let anyone slack and Mark Noble was apparently very good at motivating in the dressing room. Up until almost exactly a year ago when it became knowledge all 3 were leaving, things started tailing off. In my experience when you know you're leaving a job you tail off and those listening to you do too..."