Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[LJC]

"You don't help yourself, do you?"

[Willtell]

"I reckon there's nothing strange in it from Sullivan's point of view. You have to remember that Sullivan got it wrong with every manager he's appointed except Moyes for 2 seasons. It's all gone wrong in the last year but Moyes will have promised to make changes to survive possible relegation. Sullivan knows he wouldn't be thanked by fans for bringing in a Dyche type manager so why make another bad decision. In Sullivan's feeble mind he's fucked whether he sticks or twists. That's all it is imho""¶."

[LeroysBoots]

I think maybe Sullivan has taken his eye off the ball with this dalliance of late with the ladyboy lookie like Obsessed Midget maniac

[Manuel]

"Vexed - It is indeed very baffling. The reasons I can come up with as to why? They are planning to sell soon and are leaving it to the new owners to sack him, or decide what to do with him. They think he is owed some loyalty due to ''the last two and a half years'' They genuinely rate him and think he will turn it around. They don't want to pay him off. All they care about is finishing 17th up, so won't sack him unless we really do look like going down."

[goose]

"They still think he's the man to turn it around, idiotic but nothing weird going on. Stupid for sure, but nothing more than that."

[Vexed]

"I've been thinking for a while now that there must be something weird going on behind the scenes at the club for this fucking idiot to still be in charge. If he could fuck it up he has done from piss poor gutless wanker tactics, to buying crocked players, to creating the youth team exodus, the dumb shit he's said in interviews, selling players to rivals, to not fucking killing himself when it become obvious he's a hopeless fucking cսnt. He's taking us down and I just can't get my head round why the board haven't sacked him. It's baffling."

[Sir Alf]

"Moyes talking about our league position: ""But what we don't want to do is be where we are. We need to get away from where we are.""ù ""So maybe we need a bit of a kick up the jacksie to find a way of getting back to where we were.""ù For me that's saying he doesn't know why the team are failing? Literally clueless. We're fooked !!"

[Willtell]

I would say yes BRANDED. I remember an away game up north where Joe Cole was injured and with his dad sat in the stands and I think it was the same game where a very young Carrick was put at LB because of injury. May have been Sunderland but not sure exactly. I do remember we lost 0-1 though and Carrick could play well anywhere

[Side of Ham]

"Willwall I want idiots like you and twofeet to reaffirm which you have just now......so they marketed themselves as a footballing team, pass & move pepper pots etc and that could be where many West Ham fans get their expectations on what they expect to see?"

[BRANDED]

Micky Carrick anyone?

[Willtell]

Snide It was a marketing ploy plain and simple. They used the academy to attract and find young players you bloody fool.

[Sir Alf]

"The academy of football thing has been handy for the club to hide the underachievement down the decades. We lost, had a bad season or got relegated but always played good football was like some kind of moral victory. We ain't got that anymore and haven't for a while. I thought it all emanated from those meetings in a cafe near Chadwell Heath or somewhere led by Malcolm Allison but including Noel Cantwell, John Bond, Dave Sexton etc.. where they discussed and worked out tactics that were based on good possession and skilful players akin to some continental sides. Greenwood encouraged it later after seeing Hungary thrash England at Wembley in the 50s ( Puskas ). Anyway just a myth now."

[Side of Ham]

Hahahaha! It's unlike Willwall to not know the real story about something West Ham what a fucking ignorant mug i thought not knowing Lyall was bad enough.....I'd still like to know why THE CLUB took on 'The Academy of Football' they certainly didn't need to but did so all the same.....carried it on for decades as well.....did they think they were trying to put themselves up as something educational or lean towards playing a certain way?

[Willtell]

"You aren't pissing on my parade Crassus. I know that it started back in Ted Fenton's days but I man certain The Academy of Football was adopted by the media in Greenwood's time""¶"

[Crassus]

"Will I don't want to piss on your parade but I think you will find the Big Mal, his mates, an Italian and a few condiment dispensers had more than an influence on that Greenwood was unquestionably forward thinking but he was neither the Messiah nor without hideous flaws, that have had repercussions for decades - fact"

[Sir Alf]

Spoke to a mate last night who knows Warbarton. Worked with him years back when he was a financial trader. He heard ( confirms what others have said ) that Moyes doesn't take advice from anyone. Won't listen to anyone's suggestions or ideas. He said that was part of why Pearce called it a day and even Irvine felt that his role wasn't really contributing much. Both are getting on so that was a factor too of course. I guess without much influence and their age they thought not worth it? Moyes apparently is not a communicator at all. Keeps players and staff in the dark. It's why he will never change much

[Willtell]

"""Side of Ham 4:55 Sat Jan 28 Re: Moyes Out What fucks up your mincey view twoleftfeet is why did the club self title itself ""òthe academy of football'? ""ù ""î""î""î""î""î""î""î""î I Willtell you Snide. Because Ron Greenwood developed a young team that had a little bit of success you might have heard about in the 60's. The media gave us the nickname that stuck."

[isolated hammer]

"Twoleftfeet, I urge you to watch a clip of West Ham v Blackburn. A 36 pass move that resulted in Chapman scoring."

[Takashi Miike]

"twoleftfeet 1:49 Sat Jan 28s historical facts are that we've never spent £200m on players in the space of six months before, and never has a manager who has benefited from such expenditure delivered such a depressing, moribund, fucking joyless brand of football"

[Side of Ham]

"What fucks up your mincey view twoleftfeet is why did the club self title itself ""òthe academy of football'? Why has that now been put to the back burner? Doesn't matter what's been served up by them but was the reasoning for them putting up big signs of it around UP etc, such big signs you never needed rose tinted glasses""¶.I'm interested to hear your warped view on this tbh""¶.."

[twoleftfeet]

"No, rose coloured spectacles because you seem to believe that West Ham have always been some kind of attack at all costs side. That simply is not true and those of us who remember the days of Radford, Chapman and Dowie will testify that the football was abysmal. Some of you need to do some historical fact checking."

[Willtell]

"Snide of Ham Talking of thick cunts. I never said anything about the style of football only that you'd be after anyone criticising your god Lyall""¶."

[Yarmouth]

"And why do the media and every pundit crawl up Moyes's arse? They'll trash Conte for playing dire shite football, yet when we do exactly the same thing, only worse, Moyes gets a free ride?"

[Yarmouth]

"Side of Ham 1:18 Sat Jan 28 Exactly, the difference is trying to play attacking football vs not trying at all and relying on defensive, counter attacking shite which is exactly what fucking Moyes does every single fucking week. Get the fuck out of our club Moyes."

[Side of Ham]

Willwall you thick cսnt we played some atrocious football under Redknapp as well.....but they both TRIED to implement to play in a style that was good on the eye.....Moyes clearly doesn't.