Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Sir Alf]

"I do appreciate the optimistic view of some who think we have enough to survive. And I am pessimistic in the extreme. I am still astounded Moyes did not go just on January form alone. The fact that Aguerd is now match fit is one big difference ( since our multiple defeats at home last month) and him staying fit is critical along with one of Zouma and Ogbonna and Rice and Bowen. But the disconnect between defence and attack, the set up so deep as if we are a counter attack team that release a ball over the top or thru the channels for Antonio when if fact we now try to play through the midfield? That lack of pace or tempo and movement and mess of playing styles. It doesn't fit together to me? It's disjointed and and not having anyone to carry the ball through to the attacking areas from midfield leaves the forwards so isolated and starved of service. All made worse by the fact every team knows how we play, the slow build up and get plenty behind the ball and press us high so we lose the possession or have to launch it long to avoid getting caught on the ball. Again Aguerd stands out as a player that can play through the lines. Rice can too. Just don't see many teams we are better than."

[OccupyGreenStreet]

"We have enough quality on the pitch to stay up. At least we've invested in some decant players, despite Moyes. Off the pitch, we're barely League One level right now in terms of coaching, organization and planning."

[nychammer]

"Relegation touch and go, whether Moyes stays or not probably Academic now. Who knows we could scrape 16/17th and win the euro or the FA cup, then this suddenly goes down as one of our Better seasons. For Sullivan a quietly satisfying January. We beat Everton which papered over having to sack Moyes and we did the barest of minimum in the window. Whether he feels so smug about his decisions this season come May we shall see."

[Manuel]

"With half a season left it's too early to say who finishes 17th or 18th, win two games and it changes, not saying that we will mind. Give me a shout in 2 months, then I'll predict rather than just guessing now. If you really think we will go down then why are you not down the betting shop as I believe you'd get a good price? Go on, off you trot. Nah, didn't think so."

[carters]

"Agree Sir Alf. I think that the Poisoned Dwarf will think let's just stay up,,get rid of the old guard, ,, Dawson already gone, Cresswell, Ogbonna, Fabianski, Antonio, Lanzini. Sell Rice for the back pocket and sell up WHU to another proper Investor. He will not give a Flying by then as he will have got his money and thanks for the memory. I think we will edge Newcastle 1 0, a stoppage time header from Soucek and he will say at the after-match presentation....I told you so. How someone has not started a thread on what a waste of time that Window has surprised me I must say. Every other Team in trouble has.... except us. Joke."

[goose]

"I think we'll have enough to just about survive. The summer is a convenient time to part ways with Moyes. We have to beat the teams around us and then hopefully catch some mid table ""òsafe' teams in the run in."

[Sir Alf]

"Agree Steve and 67. I've been saying it for a while now. There's an inevitability. When you see no improvement in months and have been in decline for 12 months, why would anything change if the manager and his coaching team were not changing anything? Teams that play us have changed and know what we do and the players that were doing that well at one time are old now and slower etc. He also has a new 8 or so players who are not like the ones he had in terms of their strengths and weaknesses. But he continues with the help of Nevin and Nolan to do the exact same things and instead points to the players not being at the same levels. Yes there is probably a bit of that but it's more about his and Nevin's tactics, training methods, set up, formations and selections Imo."

[Stevethehammer]

I agree 67 Can't see how we stay up really As said before the Everton and Derby results are flash in the pan. Moyes has got something right the past 2 weeks so in typical Dithering Dave style he will revert back to type and it will all go tits up again

[Westham67]

I think we will go down. A fire sale to get big wages off of the payroll It's the West Ham way

[marty feldman]

Moyes won't be manager next season absolutely no chance . We will have been sold long before then .

[Texas Iron]

"Scored 17 in 20 games""¶ That's our big problem""¶ Pathetic""¶"

[Stevethehammer]

"The Everton and Derby results are simply Flash in the pan. We are onto nothing under Moyes and if we stay up, I fear for us next season. No young players coming through, Moyes showing he can't be trusted with money and owners who don't know their arse from their elbows. Oh to be West ham eh"

[Texas Iron]

"Will be lucky to get 33 points this season""¶ May not be enough to save us from the drop""¶"

[joyo]

"More doom and gloom,seems like Texas has been hanging around the graveyards again digging up his lastest fuck buddy"

[Texas Iron]

All over by Feb 19th Newcastle... Tottenham... Chelsea... The End is Nigh... 😱😱😱😱

[Sir Alf]

"This thread will be smoking hot after our routine rolling over before getting violently rogered by one of the rich teams this coming weekend. Will get my expletive generator ready to go to fill in the 4 or 5 words after ""Moyes you""¶""ù :-("

[eusebiovic]

What a shameless conceited yes man. Despite all his posturing and talk he still has a vintage Ann Summers butt plug permanently stuck up his arse...

[diehardhammer]

It's truly painful knowing we are stuck with this miserable football until the end of the season Just hoping we somehow pick up enough points to stay up

[master]

Moyes has coached these players for months and must be satisfied. Which is bizarre coz we can't seem to do anything with the ball. He's coaching the opposite of good football now.

[Stevethehammer]

I don't think it's a bad line up tonight and a chance for Downes and for Emerson to keep us his good form from last week. Hoping Divin gets at least half hour and puts himself as an option going forward.

[Jasnik]

https://www.whufc.com/news/moyes-id-have-divin-involved-if-i-could Think this sums up Moyes all over. what do you mean if you could what is stopping you twonk.

[Lee Trundle]

Then we'd still be failing. You'd kind of expect us to get to that stage in the cups (or thereabouts) but 12th in the league is still shit compared to how much we've spent and where we were compared to just over a year ago.

[joyo]

So what happens if we reach quarter finals of FA cup and conference and move up table to 12th in April?

[Sir Alf]

"*** , it will be as much, if not more, be towards the manager this time around. ***"

[Sir Alf]

"In the past 13 years most of our frustration and ire has been directed quite rightly at Sullivan. And while he is ultimately responsible if we get relegated ( should of sacked him) , it will be as much, if not more, this time around. It seems, from insiders, Moyes is a closed book and poor communicator. Aloof and employs a closed door policy, does not entertain suggestions and new ideas. Sounds like he has become increasingly defensive and insecure since the United, Sunderland and Real Sociedad failures. The 2 years of success with us, perhaps in part down to no crowds in COVID times ? , were a brief exception. His approach and methods have been successful with clubs with budget limitations and using players who were not the elite but more journeymen or honest, hard working pros. He has failed anytime he has to work with more technically elite players or had to build a team with a decent budget available. He had money at United but was reluctant to spend it and seems to feel comfortable buying older, experienced players. He's not BFS level frustration but he was sucked all hope from many of us as we know it's just going to be the same old attrition based football from a bygone age. Very few goals and narrow defeats are the order of the day for ""Team Moyes""ù"