Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Sir Alf]

Forgot to mention the amount of money wasted on players and the fact that their many failures have been achieved in just 13 years

[Sir Alf]

"Our performance and standing reflects the owners and always has. Sullivan is probably well intentioned overall but he with Brady his assistant and previously Gold, completely failed consistently on the football side of the business. Financially very competent though although relegation will presumably threaten that to an extent but they will still have nicely increased their wealth as a result of owning Brum and West Ham. I may be harsh on their time at Brum? They left them in mid table but didn't they sell to bigger charlatans than themselves Nothing will really progress without change of ownership. But of course that itself is a risk but assuming whoever eventually gets the club is as rich or wealthier they will be hard pushed to do a worse job on the football side? GSBs tenure is spectacular in terms of failure. Could well be 2 relegations, one fair play trophy, a Champiknship promotion, countless demonstrations and unrest, 5 or 6 relegation fights and stripping the club of its identity. That's one hell of a cv when it comes to failure Moyes is just another chapter. Just getting the feeling most of us will be pushing up the daisies before real progress takes place. Enjoy ur day ;-)"

[Nagel]

"""GSB have been in the football business for ever and have got NOTHING to show for it."" I reckon they'd disagree given the huge profit they will make when the club is sold soon. They also made a hell of a lot out of the Birmingham sale. On those terms they'll probably have made more out of football ownership than almost any of the others around the world."

[Come On You Irons]

"""This club ain't a shambles anymore"". Mark Noble, May 2016 after the last game at Upton Park. Seven seasons later: club is a complete circus and Noble is Director of Football. Noble = COMPANY MAN."

[threesixty]

It's embarrassing. We don't even pay much for the stadium a year. Spurs just spent 800m or something and still have a better 1st 11 than us. Is this club just cursed? How can a club blessed with such a large fan base in one of the worlds biggest cities be so shit at this. GSB have been in the football business for ever and have got NOTHING to show for it. We really need a director of football who has has a serious long term view on this club. I thought Moyes was meant to bring stability but he's just brought the same shit everyone else brought. Big highs and massive lows.. trouble is our lows are always relegation battles not just mid table slumps.

[stewie griffin]

"add on to that, that we chop & change managers...all of whom have completely different playing styles, so they invariably need an almost entirely new squad to work with. There's no continuity of thought. No plan. Nothing. Fucking idiots."

[Nagel]

"360, part of the reason our net spend us so high is that under Moyes we've sold expensive players for much, much less than we paid for them. Liverpool sold players like Coutinho at a massive profit."

[stewie griffin]

"threesixty 4:09 Tue Feb 21 Re: Moyes Out because the way the club is run is a shambles. Our return on investment is dreadful. If I was a player, I'd sign for West Ham under Sullivan in heartbeat. Have 5 good games, get an insanely large contract that sees me out to my mid-30s, then leave on a free. Partly why we had such a massive turnover last summer, and why we'll have another massive trunover this summer, regardless of what division we are in. Its actually pretty staggering that someone could do Sullivan, Gold & Brady's job for 30 years plus, and still be absolutely fucking shit at it."

[Manuel]

"Stubbo 4:04 Tue Feb 21 ''Claims at the end there is no one available who would take a short term gig'' Yea, that's right, ''no one'' is available to become West Ham's manager because fucking Whetstone says so, fucking hell. ''Seems like we're fucked'' Yea, very original, any more cliches? So not a chance we can finish 17th then, just fucked?? Fucking Idiot."

[Side of Ham]

"Surf, all I know is our net spend is good for us but not quite good enough for us to not have a squad lacking strikers and decent full backs. It's all on paper and the reality is we still can't get most of the players top of our managers shopping lists (and I'll include previous managers) and we still would get beat to signings of such players by Villa & Everton and the rest.....when it comes to actual deals we are always gazumped or close to it."

[threesixty]

Fuck.. my apologies. Didn't realise it was out of date! We are indeed 5th net spenders. It really doesn't feel right as I can't remember many big signings prior to this season. And why are Man City 16th over 5 yrs? How can Liverpool be below us and spent 70m on a keeper and defender ? Our squad does not look like a 5th biggest spender in the league based on what our first 11 is.

[Pub Bigot]

Everton and Villa are probably bigger clubs than us.

[swindon hammer]

"""We aren't a giant but we are a very big club indeed. Like Villa, Everton, Borussia Dortmund, Athletico, Inter or Lazio""ù Surface, we are a big club (Top 100 in the world in terms of size of fan support) but we are no where near as well known or glamorous as the like of Dortmund, Athletico and Inter. They are on another level to us in terms of honours and world wide recognition."

[stubbo]

"According to Whetstone Benitez no interest in a short term contract, and the board only looking to hand out a gig til end of season if they bin Moyes. Claims at the end there is no one available who would take a short term gig. Seems like we're fucked."

[Nagel]

"360, that article you linked is 5 years old. We're 4th biggest net spenders in last 5 years, according to this (from last week): https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city"

[Eerie Descent]

"Threesixty, that link you put up looks dodgy as fuck. Every other report has us 4th/5th net spenders. https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer/futbol/news/all-20-epl-clubs-ranked-by-net-transfer-spend-over-last-5-seasons https://www.givemesport.com/88055328-man-utd-arsenal-liverpool-chelsea-every-pl-clubs-net-spend-since-2018-19/"

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Side Clearly we aren't a Man U, Liverpool, Real, Bayern or one of the top ten giants. But based on attendances, turnover, global fan base or whatever other index you choose to use (apart from success on the sodding pitch, of course), we are just one rung down from those. We aren't a giant, but we are a very big club indeed. Like Villa, Everton, Borussia Dortmund, Atletico, Inter or Lazio. Except we are always shit."

[simon.s]

"LJC - that's the question, and if he doesn't, Sullivan looks an even bigger cսnt than he already is, as hard as that may seem."

[Side of Ham]

Who is deemed a 'similar sized club' to us these days?......15th in the world and all that.....

[threesixty]

Eeerie https://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons We are 9th on average net spend over 5 season. We are meant to be mid table and have massively over performed and then massively underperformed.

[goose]

Sir Alf 3:35 Tue Feb 21 Re: Moyes Out Pitch invasion and hurling tomatoes and cabbages at Moyes and Sullivan ? Or white flags? are you mad? dont you know there's a tomato shortage?

[LJC]

So would Benitez keep us up?

[Sir Alf]

"threesixty 3:33 Tue Feb 21 I agree. To really be sure of going to another level and staying there takes years of above average spending. Newcastle will need to spend 100 million for a few years to truly break into the next level. Liverpool will need to up their spending to get back to where they were. If it's not spent well it can mean even more years throwing money at it as United found and perhaps Chelsea will. But spending and spending smart with a plan just to get out of the relegation struggles which can affect any of 16 clubs is what Spurs have done and getting Europe year on year means they stay in with the richest but are arguably the poorest of that elite? Arsenal will need to keep spending a lot to stay where they are. We have Sullivan an imbecile in terms of football understanding , he spent a lot in 2 seasons of his tenure and we went backwards both times because there is no coherent strategy like Brighton who have built a scouting and data analytics framework to buy cheap and sell high, have all their teams play a progressive way and pick players for it. just throwing money will take a long while. Works eventually but takes multi billionaire owners"

[Eerie Descent]

"threesixty 3:33 Tue Feb 21 Re: Moyes Out I will just say that this seasons spending is a bit misleading. We haven't spent much on average over the last few seasons. So the amount this season was a bit of a rollover. We're the 4th or 5th highest net spenders over the last 5 years, you fucking nutcase."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"threesixty 3:33 Tue Feb 21 'I will just say that this seasons spending is a bit misleading. We haven't spent much on average over the last few seasons.' Mate, that's just not true. Both by our own standards and for a club of comparable size we've spent a huge amount. It's probably the main reason Moyes should get the chop. He's been given the tools and time and again he has been unable to use them. Sadly, we are past the point of half-hoping for a loss so we can get rid of him. We have too few winnable fixtures left for us fans to have the luxury of chucking one away. 4-0 to the Irons and Moyes still out!!!!!!"