Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[goose]

"Steve he cannot ""òasset strip' the club."

[Nick QQQ]

I can't see any obvious motivation for keeping Moyes. It's just malpractice from the amateur bloke still running the club. Either that or they have built some sort of amazing relationship but can't imagine that to be the case

[Stevethehammer]

* will asset strip the club*

[Stevethehammer]

"Board not planning to sack Moyes Sullivan has accepted relegation and 2ill asset strip 5hr club, selling it below a value he wanted but will pocket most of the money from sales. The final up yours to the fans"

[Pedro]

Many of the pundits are saying keep Moyes because they want us to go down. Also West Ham at the bottom is a big news story for them.

[13 Brentford Rd]

"Spit on Tea. Yeh feet, maybe all the old skool fans should just stop going and leave it to the numpties and happy clappers who will fuck off the minute we are relegated."

[goose]

Cup of tea - that's rubbish. Grant & Zola got very little abuse at the old stadium. The biggest fan backlash we've seen was at the LS (Burnley).

[Pedro]

I agree that defending has not been a strong area under the Moyes era. I still have nightmares of the spell during Covid when we were 3-0 up three weeks in a row and only one one of the games.

[twoleftfeet]

"How dare anyone have a different opinion to you Brentford, how dare they. Take your banner in, no one will give a shit. Or just don't bother going, there's a thought."

[cup of tea]

13 makes a valid point. At Upton Park I'm confident fan vitriol would have forced the boards hand by now. Not so at a sanatised bowl full of people more concerned with party decks and popcorn

[,]

Looking at this season what becomes clear compared to the two previous high finishes is that our scoring rate has diminished significantly. We don't at current rates look to be conceding overall any differently to the two previous seasons but we are dawdling along at less than a goal a game. It's abundantly clear that scoring is our big problem.

[13 Brentford Rd]

I'm at the Villa game next week. Thousands chanting Moyes out would seal his fate but it won't happen with our new muggy support. Quite prepared to smuggle in a *Moyes out banner* but will probably get our fans arguing with me and having a pop. Then I'd be banned for being a trouble maker and for daring to smuggle a protest banner in. Still might try it.

[goose]

"Griffin - that's why yesterday was so worrying. Whatever his faults, we don't lose by many under Moyes. I can't remember losing so badly since he came back. Getting done 4-0 is a massive alarm bell which Sullivan seems to be ignoring."

[Crassus]

"swindon Agree with that and here is a core reason for it aside of his coaching/management style He inherited an aging squad, he has allowed it's size to denude, his inertia in the transfer market at critical times has resulted in the oldest side in the league - add to which his stance with the youth, now openly migrating, and you have what you see An old, flogged and in cases, complacent collection of players who are seeing out their last days or comfortably plotting their exit Across the business spectrum, in all industry, never has succession management been so focused - West Ham are the diametric opposition of that"

[Bexley Ironworks]

"Moyes is part of the problem but the lions share of responsibility for this sits with the board. The only way that I see moyes being removed is if the support turns on Sullivan directly. That's what needs to happen if people want change. If the support turns on him in front of that shocker of a bird he's started bringing to games, it would be too much for his fragile ego to take."

[Come On You Irons]

Agreed. It made my blood boil when I heard that cսnt Matterface say during the midweek Cup game that Noble and the players held a party in the dressing room after thar Forest win. Absolute amatuer hour to celebrate that like we had stayed up or won something. The winning managers would never have allowed that to take place and would have reminded the players that was only our second win in 12 league games. Sums us up under the loser Moyes that he allowed that to take place. Unprofessional to say the least.

[13 Brentford Rd]

"Players celebrating and partying after the forest game as If we were safe or had won something, fucking small time clowns. The culture at the club couldn't be more wrong from the top down. They accept failure and celebrate anything above mediocrity. Leicester sacked Ranieri 6 months after they WON the Premier league. Nothing changes until we get genuinely ambitious owners who understand football and know what they're doing!"

[stewie griffin]

"Despite conceding 4 yesterday, there are 9 teams in the league that have conceded more goals than us. There are 14 that have scored more."

[nychammer]

"Swindon - recall games back in 2020 like Leicester and Arsenal where we raced into a 2 goal lead and then got pegged back - the key difference being we were scoring goals as well as conceding, much of it down to that Lingard loan spell. This season, aside yesterday, we haven't conceded too many, our goal difference is good compared to those around us, we just cant score enough!"

[Stowie.40]

"Which is strange cos you'd think a David Moyes side would be solid if nothing else. I said at the time we relied to much on set pieces and that's now massively dried up. As you say he did get some bob average players playing above themselves, Antonio, Cresswell, Dawson, Coufal, Soucek, Fornals to name a few. Problem is the cսnt didn't see the obvious decline early enough."

[Nick QQQ]

"If we go down it will fuck the team. The 30k odd fans (tourists) wouldn't go to games, and the fairweather 10k or so that have season tickets wouldn't renew. Rice would go for 50 mil, Bowen 20 mil, then you'd be lucky to get 10 mil for any of the others. Loss in tv money. Gate revenue. Advertising etc. It would be business suicide. Won't put that pass Sullivan though. Not exactly a winner is he"

[swindon hammer]

"Moyes has never really got the defensive thing right. Even when we were doing well in that 18 month period we were conceding plenty of goals. The 20/21 season we conceded 2 or more against Arsenal (twice), Tottenham, Liverpool (twice), Man Utd, Chelsea, Brighton, Palace, Man City, Wolves, Leicester & Newcastle. So in a third of the games we conceded at least 2 and in 6 of those games we conceded 3. Last season we conceded 2 or more in 17 games. So nearly half the games. So once the 18 month purple patch of being able to play counter attacking football and score goals ended we were fucked because we can't defend. Truth be told we completely overachieved for 18 months with the players we had and how small the squad was and Moyes deserves credit for that. It was one of those situations where many of the players were playing above themselves but aren't actually as good as that. The likes of Neil Orr, George Parris, Alan Dickens, Geoff Pike etc were the same in 1986. Same with a few of the Leicester players like Danny Drinkwater, Danny Simpson & Wes Morgan when they won the league a few years back. As much as Moyes overachieved in those initial 18 months he has completed underachieved this season. He still hasn't managed to sort out our defensive frailties, he hadn't got anything out of our new signings and many of the younger players like Ben Johnson have regressed."

[marty feldman]

This if we go down we can clear the decks mentality is the same absolute bollox I was hearing in the late 80s . The clubs Achilles heel has always been the complete lack of ambition at board room level . Yet unbelievably way too many of this clubs fan base let the slags off the hook . The book WEST HAM UNITED by an American called Charles korr . Exposes how two bob this club has always been run .

[stewie griffin]

"The HAPPY CLAPPER game. Been a while since I thought of that one. We stayed up that season with 35 points, basically by default of there being 3 worse teams than us. Having watched the Southampton game last night, it's a struggle for me to think of 3 worse"

[Huffers]

Circumstances and expectations due to sacrifices and promises made with stadium move ensures this is as bad as it's ever been.