Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Westham67]

As posted previously Sullivan cannot sack Moyes because he is complicit with the situation we in are by meddling in the transfer market

[BRANDED]

"It wouldn't be unusual for a board or director of football to make decisions that represent the will of the ownership. However, with Moyes it creates a dysfunction that they are unwilling to address ( by removing him ). The only continuity is Sulivan so he has every right to make the decisions he feels is right for his investment. However, it IS Sulivan so you will get a certain kind of decision that we all love to hate."

[Takashi Miike]

"I mentioned it over a year ago. Pearce (after they were first let go) appeared on the sky debate show and said that it was hard for any manager recruiting players because the board have relationships with certain people/agents and it could naturally create a conflict of interest. the video is still on youtube, but clearly no one gave a shit when I reference it"

[Willtell]

El Scorchio 4:27 What you're saying about (and Sir Alf) Sullivan pushing players onto Moyes is probably very true for a couple of reasons that support it. Like moyes dithering after deals have been negotiated must piss off Sullivan waiting for an employee to say yes. Especially if they are a bargain player and currently in the Brazil/German/Italian/ France teams or top the championship stats... If this is the case then it certainly would explain why Sullivan continues to back the manager when half the squad were bought by himself and sometimes against the expressed wishes of the manager. Sacking Moyes for his poor management skills and wasting of Kretinsky's money just doesn't apply if Sullivan keeps overruling the manager's choices of players...

[El Scorchio]

"Lee Trundle 4:30 Me too. Idiocy from both sides. One has to learn to butt out, the other shouldn't have agreed to such compromises and then purposely not use half his squad. You knew what would happen- fucking deal with it."

[Eerie Descent]

"BillyJenningsBoots 2:39 Thu Mar 16 Re: Moyes Out LeroysBoots wrote... Re: Moyes Out Watching Brighton v Palace Palace are going down I said that weeks ago... thay hadn't won since December!!! Even more shocking is the amount of people on here that have bigged up Vieira as a manager. You really do have to wonder why? Old Woy had them punching well above their weight, and over his time he had a net PROFIT in the transfer market. Vieira has been given a fair old whack to spend, and he's made them shit."

[Lee Trundle]

"I doubt you're far wrong with that assessment. It's a grey area, and I lurch from one side to the other (about who brought the players in). But then again, does it matter with Dumb and Dumber?"

[El Scorchio]

"Lee Trundle 2:42 I don't doubt they were- especially Downes! i can't help but feel there's a direct link between players who Moyes is weirdly reluctant to play or use properly, or give a fair crack of the whip to (or talk negatively about in interviews) and a Sullivan hand in a transfer. Probably even the attributes of some players are a giveaway. I've a strong hunch Benrahma, Vlasic, Kral, Emerson, Downes, Ings, Scamacca and probably a couple more have all had the Sullivan influence. And several of them don;t fit the Moyes 'mould'. Moyes couldn't wait to get Cornet back on the pitch when he was able to, and he can 'run fast' so maybe that's a telltale sign. Who knows, and I could be wrong, but I really think Sullivan's influence runs fairly deep on our transfer business."

[Vexed]

If that's true about Moyes/Sully (probably isn't given the amount of fucking horseshit on here - griffs fucking Rice dicksuckathon being the prime example) then Moyes had even less pride than previously thought. Tragic.

[SullyHammer]

"BillyJenningsBoots 2:39 Thu Mar 16 If you look at their 11 fixtures three are against teams in the top half, the remaining are all against relegation candidates. LOTS of 6 pointers there."

[Lee Trundle]

El Scorchio 1:58 Thu Mar 16 I thought its been suggested that only Downes and Ings were Sully's Special buys?

[BillyJenningsBoots]

LeroysBoots wrote... Re: Moyes Out Watching Brighton v Palace Palace are going down I said that weeks ago... thay hadn't won since December!!!

[violator]

"Sir Alf 12:25 Thu Mar 16 COYI will be desperately re-wording all of that, before adding ""my sauces"" to begin with"

[El Scorchio]

'Sullivan still has influence on transfer targets but a condition of employing Moyes is that he keeps quiet on that. Might be why he keeps persisting with him?' I. FUCKING. KNEW. IT.

[LeroysBoots]

"Can you imagine us having to endure another season under Moyes? , sends a cold chill down my spine"

[Westham67]

Have you checked with COYI before posting ?

[Sir Alf]

"Met up with a mate a few days back who is a friend of Warbarton ( used to work alongside him as a trader in the city ). He was told Moyes is a difficult man to work for. Micro manager who doesn't delegate, has ""his way""ù and will not listen to any suggestions to deviate from it. Said that Pearce called it a day for that reason and Irvine his long time assistant decided to step back as he felt that Moyes had essentially doubled down on ""his way""ù despite Irvine, Warbarton, Pearce suggesting that the game developments since Klopp and Pep upped the levels for pressing and passing and fitness/speed meant change was needed. Nevin devised set piece defending and attacking which Moyes still values but since he went to work with England the other clubs now understand how that works hence it's become less effective. Sullivan still has influence on transfer targets but a condition of employing Moyes is that he keeps quiet on that. Might be why he keeps persisting with him? Anyway that's the gist of what he got from Warbarton? Don't think my mate would make things so guessing it confirms what we all suspected :-( In short, dysfunctional."

[,]

"We can see the PL divide now and the three going down will be in this group starting from Palace, at twelfth, down to Southampton rock bottom. Just five points separate these nine teams so with around a dozen games left it's not obvious who the final bottom three will comprise."

[southbankbornnbred]

"The ONLY thing that might save is this season is the fact that half of the Premier League teams are poor at the moment. It's not a strong league this season - lots of disjointed, uninspiring sides under poor managers. And we are one of them."

[LeroysBoots]

If we are sleepwalking to relegation they are in a fucking coma !

[Manuel]

"On paper Palace have got an easy run in mainly against bottom half sides, but suppose that can also work against you. Palace could def go down, not scoring goals sends you down and they can't score."

[Willtell]

I have had a feeling that Palace might drop for a while now. There's usually one club that plummets like a stone and one that rises from the ashes.

[LeroysBoots]

Watching Brighton v Palace Palace are going down

[CanningTownWA]

I think if we lose to Southampton he will get sacked. If we cannot beat the bottom team (we might be the bottom team) then that lays bare his standing as a manager and that he won't be able to keep us up. There would be no point waiting until after the Newcastle game and it would also alert other managers that we were finally serious about a new manager. Hopefully Sullivan realises that although he thinks there is no one out there that he will have to find someone

[violator]

Didn't the sauces say scamacca was going to replace ings on 65 minutes against villa?