Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[swindon hammer]

"Side, yes I will carry on because anyone that wants their team to lose deserves to be highlighted and reminded of that. I'm pretty sure I post on this site a similar amount of days or even less than you. The only difference is you don't post when we win as it's not a good moment for you when that happens. Don't you worry about us winning a trophy though as most of us that have supported West Ham for decades will know that it will probably end in heartbreak anyway so you will no doubt come on here and gloat and tell me & others that you told us so and that's what happens when you get behind the team. Now go and find your Bournemouth shirt ready for tomorrow like a good lad."

[Side of Ham]

"Swindon it obviously hurts you I don't need this site as much as you do""¶.but I don't give a fuck""¶.and you live far enough away for me to not have to give a fuck either""¶..you are but a consequence of the internet""¶..the internet isn't real life""¶.you trying so hard to win on it makes you even more of a mug than I first thought you were""¶.carry on with it though this is after all your best connection""¶."

[Side of Ham]

"twoleftfeet you've mugged yourself off enough on this thread""¶.do one""¶."

[swindon hammer]

"Still a bit of a way to go with 2 tough teams to get through but West Ham winning a trophy would be the best moment of my 38 years following West Ham if it happened. The fact that it would also mean Side will be nowhere to be seen on this site as he will be in mourning""¶..ooops sorry I meant ""enjoying the moment with family and friends""ù is a double bonus."

[twoleftfeet]

SOH genuinely believes the players change the tactics.

[Side of Ham]

"Surf you are having a mare on this site lately turned into a proper mincing cսnt""¶.no one has said they want West Ham to lose, plenty are not minding if Moyes's tactics to lose and that football beats his shit fetal position tactics""¶.the players agree his tactics are a losing set up as well""¶luckily they are doing something about it""¶."

[Takashi Miike]

"bluerinseultra, no I've never used the term 'consumer' in regard to football and I don't remember anyone other than you or oxsaw connecting the two. what I do expect though, when a cսnt is allowed to spend just short of ¬£200m is something resembling football, and not a wall of ten behind the ball for eighty minutes"

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

There's quite a few posters on here who obviously think of themselves as consumers first and fans second. Attractive football my arse. Perhaps they should complain to 'Which?' or someone instead of coming on here hoping that we lose.

[Side of Ham]

"I rarely post on the match day threads on the day Swindon, as for not being a real fan""¶..grow up or go pick the team with the colour WHITE""¶..you are just subservient to whatever the owners and Moyes serve up""¶.your just a real customer""¶.and let's face it""¶.not even that""¶."

[Westham67]

According to Moyes he is staying with us next season

[swindon hammer]

"I don't need to get everyone to rally around me Side. At the end of the day everyone knows wanting our team to lose regardless of manager and style isn't a real supporter. Manager's come and go, supporters will always be here supporting the TEAM (Well nearly all of us anyway) I won't wish you good luck with wanting a AZ Alkmaar vs Fiorentina final for the ""good of football""ù because I care about West Ham and want us to win but you keep being you buddy. If we lose or draw against Bournemouth I will see you on here tomorrow but if we win then enjoy your time with your family and friends Side. üëç"

[Takashi Miike]

"ignore him, not long ago he was belittling lyall's achievements and saying the moyesiah had a better legacy because cups were easy to win in the 70s/80s. then he starts a thread about lyall. hahahahahaha"

[Side of Ham]

"Swindon, I said from the start of this it will likely be me""¶..you've done your best to ostracise me further on a forum""¶.luckily that's about as far as it goes for you""¶.you've looked to get everyone to rally round you and it hasn't worked""¶yet my point still stands""¶..Moyes's football deserves no recognition and this includes trophies""¶.luckily by the looks of the last couple of games the players agree with me""¶definitely not your passive exceptence of Moyes's shit tactics""¶.."

[swindon hammer]

"I didn't say the principles were missing for all of the 20 years I said for periods of the last 20 years. We haven't suddenly gone from being this club that was renowned for great attacking football and playing the right way for 50 years to now abandoning it in the past 18 months under Moyes. We have had various periods under some managers over the past 20 years where we have seen some shit negative football which is why it seems strange why you are emphasising this now. We want to see better football but at the end of the day nearly our entire fanbase will happily ""sell out""ù in the short term to witness us win a trophy so if that means we haven't got your proud principles of wanting us to lose for the good of football then so be it."

[Side of Ham]

"They simply haven't been missing for the past 20 years""¶.if that were the case we wouldn't have bought Payet, Lanzini, Anderson with two of them being lauded as marquee signings even if one of them ended up being utter shit""¶.we got rid of Allardyce because the support and even the board wanted to see some football""¶.yours, joyos and twoleftfeet's excuse is to say I'm wanting Man City standard of football""¶.no that Billic last season at UP would suffice""¶.."

[swindon hammer]

"Side, I'm not dismissing anything from that era while you are ignoring the past 20 years. Why are you suddenly bringing up these principles now when they have been ignored plenty of times over the past 20 years? As I said in my previous post, does that mean under various periods under the likes of Allardyce, Avram & Curbishley you wanted us to lose as well due to not following these principles? You keep speaking like these principles have been consistently kept since JL left. They haven't. No I don't speak for the whole of our fan base and neither do you but one thing we both do know is that when it comes down to it hardly any of them will give a shit how we play if Declan Rice is lifting that trophy next month so you are obviously in the minority when it comes to these ""principles""ù over success."

[Side of Ham]

"""¶.want to dismiss it because it gets in the way of us possibly winning something""¶.I'm just sticking with those principles""¶.win with a bit of intent to have the ball""¶.you can point out all you want, you tried to make out the likes of Lyall were not that great even though he did all his achievements with mostly shit backing and the board cashing in on his success""¶.for what?""¶..so you can say you saw us win a trophy playing like Swindon Town""¶.."

[Side of Ham]

Funny that because everyone I mention those managers or go back to an era we actually had some principles you want

[swindon hammer]

"Side, I know all about our foundations and traditions and I don't need to be from East London to understand and appreciate it. I am obsessed with the Greenwood & Lyall era's and prefer talking about that than the current stuff. You and I have had conversations on a thread I created specifically about that era so you know how much I love it so please stop with the talk about me dismissing or being ignorant of that era or our traditions because no one on here tries harder to revisit/acknowledge those days than me. My issue with you is you use what we did 30 years ago as some kind of template for what we do now when the reality is that we haven't consistently played that same brand of football for a long long time. In which case were there periods/games under Allardyce, Curbishley, Avram etc when you wanted us to lose as well because we weren't playing the brand of football you wanted us to? As far as me ""selling out""ù for a cup win, you go and ask the same question I asked you earlier to the 60k that attend the semi final whether they would rather win ugly or lose in style and 99.9 percent of them (Most of them from London btw) will pick the win. So does that mean 99.9 percent of our fanbase are sell outs as well? Yes I want to see better football and yes I want us to have a more positive manager but in the meantime I will happily celebrate a cup win and most of our fanbase will do the same."

[Side of Ham]

"Erm twoleftfeet, Man City win trophies I'm willing to forego that""¶""¶are you a bit thick?"

[Side of Ham]

"No I don't think that Swindon, what I do think is that club and it's East End roots has often represented it's area well and more than often punched above it's station seeing as we've never been lower than the Championship or properly invested into like some of our bigger neighbours""¶..when I here twats from afar like yourself (I know there plenty more from afar who wouldn't) refer to some of our past as just that the past you are talking about some of the foundations and traditions we had but you are willing to sell out for a cup win playing the sorts of football that is disgusting and more importantly unnecessary""¶..this club can do better much better""¶..and trophy's can wait if they don't continue to step up as they are attempting to now""¶..something has gone totally over your head about West Ham and I can only assume In your case it's the distance."

[Willtell]

"You're conflating wanting to win games with boring football and that's not right. You said you don't want WH to win this cup if we play defensive football. Real WH fans want to win and prefer it to be playing good football. If not, they still want to win. The likelihood is that we won't win playing Moyes normal tactics anyway."

[twoleftfeet]

"You've said it again, you don't want to win a trophy if the style of football isn't too your liking. That's a fucking stupid thing to say. I wouldn't give a shit if we won a trophy despite only having 5% possession and 1 shot on goal. You, honestly, would be better off supporting Man City üëç"

[Side of Ham]

"Never said that either rumford, that's over sensitive and gives me far too much power I could never claim to have on here""¶..this bloke throws out questions to me about my support continually tries to get the forum to turn on what I am stating because he wants some long awaited reward for supporting West Ham? It would be fucking fantastic to win something but not at the expense of it being an anti-football way to success""¶.I know I am right as now the players are doing what they need to do to get the results we need""¶.wanting to have the ball and attack the opposition""¶."

[swindon hammer]

"Side, what's hilarious is that you think just because you are from the East End and some of your family were supporters that automatically makes you superior in some way to any supporter that weren't from the area. There are thousands of West Ham supporters all over the world that aren't from the East End of London that have endured the same highs and mostly lows as you but have also spent thousands of pounds travelling many miles just to watch home games and then had to endure the long journey back. There are also many West Ham supporters who were born and live in London who don't go to many games so who are you decide where you come from or how you started supporting West Ham dictates how much of a supporter someone is? Of course we all want to see us play better football and get better results but the way you go on it's as though John Lyall had never left in 1989 and we are still renowned for being the club that plays this great brand of football. The reality is that over the past 20 years we have only sporadically played great football on a consistent basis and on many occasions it's been awful and literally no one outside the club associates us anymore of being that pure footballing team and haven't for a long long time. Despite the football and the results over the years sometimes testing all of our patience the one thing that any real West Ham would never do is want us to lose especially when we are so close to finally being able to celebrate winning something. So spare me all your ""special traditions""ù that makes you think you are superior to lots of others because at the end of the day 99.9 percent of us ""proper supporters""ù would never want us to lose regardless of where we come from or how we started supporting the club."