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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"We've allegedly, got one of the best player liaison teams in the league. Danny Ings after his transfer: ""I would say this transition has been the easiest for me. I don't know if that's experience of moving a lot in the past, but it's been really smooth. The people are great, everybody at the club have looked after me and my family, which has been great. It's all down to the liaison team, who helped us find a place. It's been very easy."" So all this talk about (just) our players having to take a year to settle, is a load of old bollocks."
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"Moyes could leave by writing himself into the West Ham history books and IF he succeeds keeping the team up (highly likely now) and deliver the first trophy in years, his stock will rise or a great time to retire, given his track record. The board should absolutelly be looking at succesion planning and who is the best person to take these players and the club forward be that with or without Rice."
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"Billy Blagg 10:19 Tue May 9 It's not the 1990's for fuck sake. Every single thing in these multi-millionaires lives are taken care of, they probably have someone to wipe the arse for them. Why are we the only club that has to suffer from this with our players? It took Haaland about 2 minutes to 'adapt'. You're talking a load of bollocks."
- Takashi Miike
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i just hope the players keep dissobaying moyeses orders like they dun agenst man u in the secund half and in the secund half agenst arsenal and for the hole game agenst bornemouth and not folow his orders like they dun agenst the jordees
- Hammer and Pickle
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"I'm sorry but was this now a ""resting""ù or a ""transition season""ù. Seems even the cliches are in conflict."
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"It's simple really. You either see Moyes as he is which is, the proponent of limited defensive tactics or, really believe that this 60 year old coach, will be able to change tactics to a more attacking formation in line with being a top 6 club as he did years ago when given the chance at Man Utd....."
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"mr so & so 12:50 Tue May 9 Yea, five times wrong. Of course, it takes time! Sometimes you get lucky and a player hits the ground running but for the most part, it takes time to settle because the footballer is also a human who has to buy a house, integrate the family, and find a school for the kids. All much harder if you're coming to another country too. This swiftly follows on from the 'he doesn't look the same since his Op' nonsense you see everywhere. Of course, these players are fitter and stronger than most of us here but it takes a while to recover from an Op like a hernia. Fans are just so impatient. Well done to the Board for sticking with Moyes. Let's go and win the Conference League now!"
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"The Arsenal players even in transition were being asked to play football, so you've used a terrible example as we all know our new players transition period has been about converting them to the Moyes set up of not having the ball""¶.do you seriously foresee him getting us to play football? Changing this set up he's always had""¶..it'll be he who has the biggest transition next season which you are saying holds things up""¶..and he may be in a better European Cup""¶..and his preseasons are inconsistent""¶."
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"Vexed ain't you the fella that thought Rice was bang average ? It's not just these 4 players is it, we also bought in Cornet, Emerson, Downes. That's a big turn around of players in one window. Look at Arsenal they brought in Ramsey, White, Gabriel, Tierney, Partay among others. They were awful until it all clicked this season. So yes we are a team in transition when you bring in 8 or more players into the first team squad."
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You don't spend £160M odd on players to wait 6 months before they get going. That's why you pay the big bucks right? Tragic waste of a season.
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You don't spend £160M odd on players to wait 6 months before they get going. That's why you pay the big bucks right? Tragic waste of a season.
- Hammer and Pickle
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JOHNNY V 12:04 Tue May 9 If four foreign league players is your definition of being a team in transition then almost every team in the league is perpetually in transition. Surely you cannot be this fucking dense?
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"H&P let's agree to disagree, I think if he stays we will be a different team next year. I get the arguments for people wanting him gone it's been a resting season but every manager has them. If he survives the end of the season we can revisit the conversation next year."
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"Eerie Descent 11:52 Mon May 8 Exactly this Picking up wins through a de gea fuck up and an own goal at Fulham for example are really saving Moyes from getting the stick he deserves for taking nearly a full season to pull away from relegation. I'm not having the conference league is an achievement either. Played loads of dross teams that I'd expect most teams in the top half of the league to beat. For me I still stand firm in the belief IF we manage to win the conference it should be, thanks for the good moments David but we're moving on. I suspect kretinsky will also want to splash out on a young progressive manager to start of his ownership too (well I hope he takes full control, already appointed more professionals to the board)"
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Sorry, he has been playing Aguerd, Paqueta and Kehrer regularly while he's basically totally failed to use Scamacca. Also, Fornals and Downes have been either ignored or played out of position while Soucek has been overused in the extreme. No, I see no sign of a transition plan here at all. What we have here is a manager without a clue beyond his old scheme and comfort zone."
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"When you bring in 4 players from foreign leagues you are team in transition. Aguerd, Paqueta, Scamacca and Kehrer are far better technically than what we had previously but it's taken 6 months for them to get up to speed in this league. Hardly any of the top managers just throw players in from a foreign league nowadays, so yes you do rely on your tried and tested players as well during spells of the season. But we are seeing now that all 4 are coming good. You also have to remember Zouma, Cornet, Aguerd, Scamacca have been out for long spells during the course of the season."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Transition? If you see any evidence Moyes is interested in leading our transition to a new level, please let me know."
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"There is being a team in transition, then there is spending £200mil and being one of the shittest teams in the division. Our performances in the league this season have been an absolute fucking disgrace, disgustingly bad. It is astounding that anyone is still backing this manager. Fucking madness."
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Transitioning. Showing you can't change your tactics and attack and then relying on your tried and trusted playing the old players can't be seen as transition surely.
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- Takashi Miike
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"what do you think he's transitioning us to? we've been far less expansive with far more resources. the way he approaches games in the current premier league, where winning is secondary to not losing is unsustainable"