Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[SullyHammer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65878343

[diehardhammer]

Confirmed Moyes is staying from fairly reliable journalist Sami Mokbel

[Stowie.40]

What Yarmouth said Can't believe we're gonna be stuck with this shit football for another season. How the fuck they are trusting Moyes with the Rice money I'll never know. He can go out with he's head held high and jog on upto jock land and pad the trophy cabinet out a bit more. Makes perfect sense

[Eerie Descent]

"Apparently Antonio is off, Scamacca is off. If so, does anyone feel confident about us signing a striker to feed off scraps? The whole world knows now what is expected of any striker that signs for us."

[Razzle]

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[Lee Trundle]

"He's staying. It's pretty obvious. Sullivan would be crucified by the press if he was to bin him off. He isn't that brave. I don't even think a change of ownership would threaten his position. My concern is we're now going to spunk a load of money on his targets to play football the way he wants us to, which the majority of the fans don't want to see. Or, he does what he did last summer, and spend a load in an attempt to change it all up with possibly the same disastrous results."

[Rossal]

"Like Rice I think Moyes should bow out at the top. Thank you for last week, an incredible week and delivering a trophy.... moments we will never forget. But that win stuck a huge plaster over what was a terrible season. Losing 20 out of 38 games after spending £180M is not acceptable. When you then combine that with the style of football, the decision making, the man management and the bollocks spouted in interviews I am sure its now time to part ways and try and move on under some new ideas. Losing Rice in the summer will require effective spending and a lot of coaching to get the team in a better position after losing a player so influential both on and off the pitch. I would feel far more confident going into the new season with a pre season being coached by a Potter, Rodgers or Thomas Frank etc than Moyes We wasn't even that great in the final, not that it matters mind...... but for over 18 months now the performances have been abject at best and we have been in a continuous decline. He hasn't shown in 18 months that there is any hope he can get us back to the first 18 months of his reign so not sure why Sullivan etc think that he can now Thank you Moyseh but some fantastic times and you'll always be welcomed back but sometimes in football its a ruthless fucker and we need to weald the axe and look to kick on next season"

[diehardhammer]

"Looks like Celtic want Brendan Rodgers back Stuck with Moyes it is then and possibly no rice to mop up the tactical errors""¶."

[Yarmouth]

"Just fuck off to Celtic and do everybody a favour. And do it by next week so we have a good pre season. Oh, and take Antonio with you."

[Manuel]

"ED - Like I say, very likely to stay. As for losing 5 mil, well he would very likely be starting another job if he left. Just seems a bit odd that if he's staying then why the uncertainty that appears to be around."

[Side of Ham]

"Swindon, you do know this site is very low on the priority list when West Ham have something to celebrate""¶..there was no need to go near this site such was the masses of West Ham to celebrate and talk about it around my way""¶."

[Eerie Descent]

"Manners, he's not going to give up on £5mil is he? And the way he's spoken about next season, coupled with Sullivan saying what he did."

[Manuel]

"Eerie Descent 1:26 Sat Jun 10 Of course he'll still be manager next season, Sullivan has said so'' Not quite, he said he hopes he (Moyes) will honour and see out his contract. But yea, likely he stays."

[swindon hammer]

Yeah it's the return of Eerie who surprise surprise had disappeared from this site since we won on Wednesday! Then after 3 days the first thing he does is comment on this particular thread. You have to laugh!

[Eerie Descent]

"Of course he'll still be manager next season, Sullivan has said so. He ain't going anywhere. It's another season of 30% possession in most games, backs to the wall defending, stinking the place out in the league, Soucek being a ghost, Cresswell starting most games, and relying on Antonio staying fit to make us competitive in games. What I don't want to see is any of the happy clapping cunts dare suggest he has to go after we take our latest pounding off Crystal Palace, Brentford, and Brighton with a new set of players no one has ever heard of playing us off the park."

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Northern Sold 11:37 Fri Jun 9 Re: Moyes Out That Soldo is the most ridiculous thing I think you've ever said... of course you can have - we win despite (or inspite) of him because he is so negative and when we lose its because if him because he is so negative... Have you been on the happy juice since the win?

[Nagel]

"Some people think that if we keep Moyes and make a couple of decent signings then somehow we'll get back to how we were playing 2 years ago. It's like they don't realise it was that period that was the outlier, and this season was closer to the norm we should expect in the league with Moyes' set up. I said this at the time: the lockdown had a massive impact on allowing us to play that counter-attacking style of football, and the usual home/away form went out the window. STAT alert! In every season up to the covid outbreak there would be at most one or perhaps two teams who did better away than at home. In the lockdown season there were eleven of them! Points won per game usually average between 0.4 and 0.6 more at home than away. That season more points were actually won away than at home. People might say that our early season form was good in the season after lockdown, but there was still a period of adjustment then. Across the whole season 5 teams got more away than home points and the average home point advantage was just 0.26 points, whereas this season things were back to normal with the average being 0.59 points and just one team getting more away than home points. We've already seen that Moyes cannot work out how to play in a different way, so unless somehow we get another lockdown I see little hope of us improving that much over the shit we've had in the league over the last 60+ games."

[Manuel]

So is it now the case that Moyes is considering calling time and moving on? Are we actually waiting for him to say OK I'll do another year? All seems a bit unclear. Things to consider.. Is he unhappy that Sullivan isn't offering him a new deal? Does he think the fans are ''ungrateful''? He admitted the banner at Fulham upset him. Does he want to know more about the set up with the DoF coming in? Is he hoping to be offered the Celtic job? All seems a bit up in the air and it needs sorting one way or the other.

[J.Riddle]

Has he decided yet? Thought not. Dithering Dave living up to his name again.

[goose]

And there's the problem. We're likely to drop another £150m on players this summer. We can't afford to waste that money. Who's choosing those players and are they being bought to fit a style of play that might well change within a year??

[terry-h]

"It looks like Sullivan is prepared to let him finish his contract, but if we are in any trouble before the end of this year, he has got to go."

[Dick Hanio]

"I've been supporting West Ham for 50 years, was lucky to be at he FA cup final v Arsenal. For me that was the last major trophy that we have won. There seems to be a lower expectation among newer fans of what success is .Narrowly avoiding relegation after the biggest spend on players and the strongest squad on record and winning the Conference League which is a competition for also runs, clubs that are not good enough to qualify for the Champions league or Europe league on merit. As a sweetener to leave Upton Park we were told expect Champions League and a possible Premier League title within five years! I'm convinced that we could achieve this with a top attack minded manager."

[The Ghost of Sven]

"Is there any evidence of a manager changing his style after 25 years? His instinct is to sit back and be cautious Which has resulted in his ridiculously poor away record against a group of bigger teams .... no wins in 80 something .... but more worryingly has seen him schooled by more progressive managers at smaller clubs. Managers like Potter, Frank (Thomas not the abysmal scruffy fat cսnt Lampard), DeZerbi etc"

[Stevethehammer]

"All he has to do is release the shackles We have played in that team that given the right licence to get the ball down, play football and take it to the opposition win us games and push us on further. Sitting back, soaking up pressure and hitting on the counter is the way to play against the top 6, not against the 19 other teams in the league. If he just gave the team more freedom to go out and play and consider the idea of 2 upfront especially if we are losing, drawing a game then there's no reason he can't have more success. But he is too afraid of doing so and I think winning this trophy will only add to his decision to keep playing in a certain way."

[legrandefromage]

"A genuine cut & paste from Claret & Hugh confirms just how far Moyes is behind the times: ""It was suggested even before the European Conference Final that the Scot would be making his own decision. Moyes himself must decide whether to lead the club into the 1923/24 season, having been under pressure for much of this campaign."" https://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham-wait-on-moyes/"