Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Sir Alf]

"IMO a new manager will have a recruitment requirement to bring in some pace and better technicians at RB and also midfield as well as up front. That's the issue with having Moyes recruit to his ""Moyesball""ù template which involves sitting deep in shape and quick counters / set pieces. No pace and movement that is required to press when out of possession, play through the lines / midfield and from the back. But having 2 wingbacks to overload down the flanks and better movement / control of a football up top - and above all else coaching the team to press and keep the ball better - will make watching far more exciting. Just hoping Steidten has his plan ready and managerial candidates already identified or secretly sounded out. It may be someone from or still operating in the Bundesliga? The dream would be someone like Alonso but he's doing very well at a Champs League club so it's just that a dream. Would Sullivan pay compensation to prize a manager from elsewhere ? Never done it before but like I say perhaps Steidten has a less known candidate in mind? How's Will Still doing this season ? One season wonder ?"

[Lee Trundle]

*worst

[Lee Trundle]

"We had 2 shots at home, against one of the wrist teams in the league, and at times we played with ZERO strikers in the pitch. That's not attacking football. I don't believe you when you say your watched the game, Willtell. If you did, then your more stupid than I thought you were."

[Eerie Descent]

WillLIES Was you Regional Manager of Wernham Hogg? You silly old fart

[Takashi Miike]

"""Moyes isn't lying though is he? The big moan from you Moyes haters was our under 30% possession stats. We had 64% and still lost against Everton at home. Let's not make up stories as to why he should be going"" ""Ha ha ha. So next time you all make up stories about me I shouldn't correct your pathetic stupidity is that it?"" you need to make your mind up. what made up stories? the football is still shit, it isn't more attacking, we only had the ball more against Everton because they didn't fucking want it"

[fraser]

Ha you saw the game and you think we approached it differently and Kudus's inclusion put us on the front foot rather than Everton sitting deep and playing on the break FMOB no wonder others suggest it's not worth talking football with you... I'd have to agree and leave it there...

[Willtell]

"Takashi Miike 2:44 Wed Nov 1 Re: Moyes Out the narcissism/boasting is never far away, a big headed ignorant cսnt ""î""î""î""î""î""î""î""î""î""î Ha ha ha. So next time you all make up stories about me I shouldn't correct your pathetic stupidity is that it?"

[Willtell]

"fraser Stop lying you fraud! I saw the whole game and nowhere did I say that I didn't. It's weird how the mentally challenged have to turn to lies rather than admit they were wrong. I agree that Moyes is done as our manager and I'm only saying don't make up stories about him that aren't true. Only massive cunts do that fraser""¶."

[Takashi Miike]

"the narcissism/boasting is never far away, a big headed ignorant cսnt"

[brick_lane_batty_boy]

"For us to have any chance of progressing in the League - He has to go. He is effective at what he does, but we now have a squad that can do more. We've all seen it doesn't take long for terms to change their DNA - Spurs went from ultra defensive to a team with a clear style and plan. If we don't change him - it will be a huge missed opportunity - as before you know it, another season of lower / mid table mediocrity will mean losing the players that have aspirations for more. You can not play your best player out of position - you certainly can not play your best player out of position twice in one game. Sunday - Everyone knows how Everton set up - not once did we switch play quickly - not once did we try to play Antonio down the side of their slow cumbersome centre backs. Not once did we put an early ball into the box without chopping back inside. There is NO pattern of play - there is no game plan for when teams sit back against us. Lets be very clear - yes, a lot of us are guilty of probably moaning too much - but he gets paid a hell of a lot of money to do the job he has the privilege of doing. He is paid to find answers and solutions - he is paid to coach a modern day football club. Sunday wasn't an isolated incident - I would say on the whole, we've played the say way for 18-24 months now. It's slow, directionless, desperate and turgid. I think a forward thinking manager, who likes to play quick transitional football could easily have a positive impact on that squad of players within 6-8 weeks. We definitely have the squad and as I say, we've seen it done multiple times over the last few years."

[fraser]

"Willtell 2:28 Wed Nov 1 Re: Moyes Out So you didn't watch it thanks for confirming, I'd be seriously worried about your faculties if you came to the conclusion you did after watching."

[Willtell]

"How pathetic to slag off the messenger that you're all thick fans. I played football until I was 49 and then successfully managed a county league team winning trophies every season for 5 years. I was a managing director of a mid sized company for over 25 years and because I've always enjoyed playing with cunts, I enjoy posting logic on WHO""¶"

[Hammer and Pickle]

Good article aldgate - pretty much sums it up

[Lee Trundle]

I think I pulled him up earlier on in the season when he was coming out with his usual bollocks back then. He clearly doesn't watch the games and then wades on here with his opinion about them. Fuck getting old.

[Eerie Descent]

"Surely no one takes Tell seriously on football, do they? The old codger has clearly never kicked a ball in his life. And the last game he saw live was QPR in the 1950's."

[aldgate]

Decent article in Sporting Life https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/the-kelly-criterion-is-david-moyes-on-the-hot-seat/213394

[Lee Trundle]

"You didn't watch the Everton game, did you Willtell?"

[Eerie Descent]

"Manuel 12:55 Wed Nov 1 Wow. Even the most ardent Moyes fan surely has to see through that complete and utter bollocks. Fair enough if you are happy with us playing shithouse cսnt football, but don't fucking lie about it. Can honestly say, this current slop that we're serving up is as bad as anything I've seen, but I've never seen it with the amount of talent we've currently got."

[Manuel]

Isn't Willtell usually on a plane when we play?

[Takashi Miike]

"*most creative player* no, you thick French cսnt. i never called for the sacking of bilic, allardyce or pellegrini but none of them were given close to half a billion pounds yet still resorting to shithouse anti-football"

[fraser]

"Willtell I really don't know why I'm bothering... We would have had just as much possession if Soucek had played.. Because Dyche knew that the way for them to best us is to let us have the ball and when we carelessly lose it as we did they can break I actually don't think you ever watch us play, I think you look at the result and stats.. Our patterns of play were exactly the same Sunday as they always are when we have the majority of the ball... Sideways across the pitch and cross... We like to hit teams on the break, we were good at it, we then got sussed and had a shit season doing it, we tried to do something else and failed.. We reverted to it and got some fortunate results early in the season doing it, so the likes of Everton are letting us have the ball.. We're shit at football and rarely score when that happens.."

[Takashi Miike]

"you obviously just look at the line ups but don't watch the games. it may look more attacking on paper, but it can't be when the more creative player is playing in a deep wide role (he's never played there in his career) sitting in front of the LB, and a progressive player in JWP now being asked to accompany alvarez as a second DM. something we and alvarez doesn't need, and why alvarez has been drifting and looking for the ball rather than what he does best in breaking up play and giving it to paqueta/jwp who are now as deep as him"

[Willtell]

If anyone epitomises the fundamental (with the stress on the mental) idiot fan that gobs off incessantly about changing manager as the answer to every on field problem then Talkshite Miike is it.

[Willtell]

fraser As you are clearly a simple minded gobshite you shouldn't go calling others out for pointing out your stupidity. You and others have been crying for months for Moyes to drop Soucek and play another attacker. That's what he did. It resulted in getting 64% possession to play the attacking football you've been going on about as the solution. It wasn't. Now you're blaming him for lying about playing better football. Surely you mean he tried but failed?

[Takashi Miike]

"of course he's fucking lying, and the captive audience is idiots like you. you're defending his comments off a game against a team that wants the ball even less than him. you're the cunts obsessed with possession, and most of those passes were nowhere near the everton box, we had two shots on target at home. did you watch the game?"