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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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I remember feeling pretty confident this time last year that he was going to get the boot last summer. He then went on and won the LDV Vans European trophy. I can't see him winning the Europa League this year for us. That might be the only way he keeps his job as I can see us freefalling down the league now.
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"Agree that we just need a few players in those positions where we have lacked for a long time A change of playing style and intent is one of the main things .... said to someone the other day that its quite an achievement to make a team with Pacqueta , Kudus & Bowen in as DULL AS MUD. I think players like Aguerd & Alvarez would thrive in a more positive team The most worrying thing for me in Moyes post match comments was that he thought our biggest problem was the lack of LUMPS in the team (ie a TEAM FULL OF SOUCEKS). Not talented footballers, not players who can control games, not attacking threats .... just LUMPS"
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"Yup I'm not buying that either. I doubt Brighton were an amazing technical team when Potter took over but he got them playing. Did he take over from Chris Hughton? Areola is okay with the ball at is feet. Aguerd and the Greek are. Emerson is technically good. Alvarez, Phillips, JWP, Paqueta, Bowen, Kudus. We could keep the ball better if the players were coached to do so."
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"I'm not sure that's a fair assessment ""ì Bowen, Kudus & Paqueta are very obviously good enough footballers. JWP made a massive impact when he arrived because he was allowed to get forward. Now, he's been asked to play as a defensive player to accommodate that lumbering oaf Soucek, so he looks shit. Emerson is better going forward than he is defensively, and regardless of your style, you always need an Alvarez type in there somewhere. The fact that we need a new right back, two centre backs, a left winger so Paqueta can move centrally to replace Soucek, and a striker, has little do with our style of play, and we need them regardless."
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"A journalist blogger bloke on Talksport yesterday made a very valid point. He cited Pottter, but said the same would apply to any progressive manager, making the point that we really don't have a squad capable of playing in his style and the overhaul required would be so immense as to be hugely unlikely."
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"We'll just limp through to the end of the season. It's the West Ham (well Sullivan) way. He's loathe to ever get rid of a manager, because that involves parting with money, which is of course his true love. Try as best to enjoy the rest of the season, there will probably be a few unexpected wins along the way, and at least two more European games to look forward to. The end of the season won't have the climax of last season, but it will hopefully see him gone, and a new bloke in, with a full pre-season to prepare. I think Moyes knows his time is up, now it's just a waiting game."
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"nychammer 6:19 Tue Feb 13 Chelsea will soon be above us, they're in the league cup final and in the Fa Cup. I guess this season is the definition of transitional season. Europe is probably the aim. I'd have Potter in a heartbeat at this point. British for Sullivan and try's to play football the way it should be played."
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Leroy what a great article. Throw in Moyes character flaws like his inability or weakness to take accountability and its no wonder fans find it hard to take to him. My opinion is we need a modern coach not a manager who is fully aligned with Steidten but can't see Sullivan being that bright or relinquishing control
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Great article that Leroy perfect explanation Threesixty. you would have never heard Fergie criticise the team publicly or praise himself for success. In public it would be his failure or the teams success. That's managing. What intrigues me about the pundits or media is the love in with Moyes compared with their apparent disdain for Allardyce. You hear Sam complain about it on Simon Jordan's podcast and even Jordan is suggestive that BFS was a log ball merchant. Yet Moyes seems to get a pass from the same people despite arguably a more dire style than BFS. I wonder if it's just that trophy which the media think we should be eternally grateful for forgetting everything else.
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"Leeroy Very good article that. Couldn't sum up the situation any better. I think the club is stuck mentally in thinking that we will be relegation fodder if someone doesnt make us play anti-football. We had the same with Allardyce. Same shit different day. Be careful what you wish for bollocks. Always forgetting we are one of the best supported clubs in the country if not world football. We have PL income. There is zero need to ever be near the relegation zone given the resources we have available. So why not just get a manager who plays attractive football instead of this anti football dinosaur? How can it be worse? Moyes wants us to think we'd be in the relegation zone if it wasnt for him. Mental. Also, why does he have to keep reminding us what he's done for us? (never we with him, its always them.,.). Pulling rank is a sign of weakness. Having to tell people what you have done and why you are special means your failing. It's never a good sign."
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"https://www.football365.com/news/west-ham-next-manager-david-moyes-replacement 10) Jose Mourinho You have to admit it would be nothing if not funny to bin off Moyes in large part due to grumblings about his tactics and then bring in Mourinho. On the plus side, should at least be able to quickly form a bond with the fans over a mutual loathing of Tottenham. 9) Mark Noble Certainly ticks the ""òDNA' and ""òKnows The Club' boxes on any West Ham job spec. He is currently sporting director at the Hammers and it's not hard to envisage a scenario in which he takes temporary charge like some kind of modern-day Trevor Brooking, but anything more than that would seem one heck of a leap. 8) Marcelo Bielsa We'd be up for this one. An endlessly fascinating and fascinated coach, there is definitely crossover here with West Ham's self-styled ""òacademy of football' aesthetic and it would just fundamentally be good fun to have him back squatting on buckets in the Barclays. 7) Gary O'Neil Spent two-and-a-half years at the club as a player and currently impressing everyone while making his way up the Premier League managerial food chain. It's not an entirely ridiculous idea but hard to see West Ham fans who yearn for more being entirely happy with a manager whose reputation is growing but being built on firefighting rather than glass-ceiling-smashing qualities. 6) Paulo Fonseca Was Tottenham's top choice for a while in the doomed summer that ended with Nuno and certainly plays a type of football West Ham fans could more readily get behind than Moyesball no matter how effective it may have on occasion been for them. Newcastle and Aston Villa also considered Fonseca before landing on Eddie Howe and Unai Emery respectively, and the Lille manager does feel like he sits somewhere close to the very top of untainted managers the Hammers could theoretically lure. 5) Steve Cooper Would probably do absolutely fine at a club whose transfer policy is very slightly less madcap than Nottingham Forest's, but is he an enticing enough name to make the leap from the safety of Moyes worth the gamble? Not sure. 4) Michael Carrick Another former Hammer making his way in management, and he's impressed plenty with his Middlesbrough team. No surprise based on the sort of player he was to see he has an aptitude for the job, but West Ham as a first (permanent) top-flight gig would be a big punt from all concerned. 3) Will Still The 31-year-old Football Manager prodigy is a West Ham fan and at some point some team is clearly going to unleash an avalanche of content about just who is this Belgian-born, English-parented oddity by giving him a Barclays gig. We would still be quite surprised at this point if it were West Ham, but let's see. 2) Xabi Alonso Ah, that's adorable, it really is. Second favourite? How on earth is he second favourite for the West Ham job? There are genuine and significant doubts about whether he'd even want to walk away from the good thing he's got going at Leverkusen to be the next Liverpool manager. With the very greatest of respect, he's not going to West Ham, is he? ""òStranger things have happened,' you might say. Yeah? Name one. Exactly. 1) Graham Potter Now that seems like a much better fit. Could be scuppered by Manchester United, sure, but if they either stick with Erik Ten Hag or look elsewhere then this is an option that would appear to make a lot of sense for everyone. West Ham are a big enough club that it certainly wouldn't be a demeaningly large backward step for a manager who nevertheless really should have to make one after what went down at Chelsea. And West Ham, for all their qualities, are not going to attract an elite coach with no baggage. But they absolutely could rehabilitate one whose Brighton work saw him firmly on the watchlists for every member of the Big Six."
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"It's now three years, three months since West Ham won more than three league games in a row.' 'Take a huge sample size of their last 70 league matches and Moyes's West Ham have earned 84 points (or 1.2 points per game, the Premier League's just-about-managing benchmark). Put that into a London perspective over the same time period: 16 points fewer than Brentford, three more than Fulham (who have played seven fewer games), one more than Crystal Palace. ' Best manager since Lyall?"
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https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/west-ham-david-moyes-toxic-2902074?ITO=msn Sums it up succinctly
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"As Moyes contract is up in the summer when he says he may resign in all honesty he is not giving up that much, now if he still had 2 years to go then no way is that thought entering his head. From what he's made from football over the last 25 years he had no need to ever work again."
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"I am grateful to David Moyes; he has achieved great things despite being counter-cultural to our ethos. His time, however is up. The possession stats, the low block, the defensive outlook, and scoring on the break may have worked at Preston North End and Everton twenty years ago, but they look tired and embarrassing now, like a King Charles suit jacket. Our love for West Ham has much to do with our need for social connection and tribalism. We enjoy being part of a group, and watching West Ham play gives us a sense of belonging and community. There is something profoundly satisfying in seeing order emerge out of chaos, as each of our players strives to achieve their individual goals while working together as a cohesive unit towards victory. This type of competition and collaboration can be very inspiring. Not remotely on display yesterday. I live in California, and NBC delighted in showing the fans steaming out of the stadium at half-time. I got up at 5:30 a.m. to witness that. They just happened to have a stream from a blimp. Those who watch us closely knew that Moyes' strategy based on a defensive strategy was shot to pieces. There was going to be no comeback, and they knew it. I tuned into Five Live Sport on Sunday and heard Chris Sutton criticize West Ham fans for leaving. To a man, the Hammers who called in were class acts ""ì one fan came to all the home games from Wrexham for fucks sake. ""Our Dave"" has ""dinosaured"" his way to the exit door. Time to pull the trigger. Definitely no new contract."
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"Reo-Coker got his footballing education at Wimbledon""¶..his opinion on what is football is built on that""¶..so it's fair to say""¶.ignore it."
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After the shit he has put on display the last few matches he should be gone. Hopeless in the Prem last season as well.
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Rosssl the only manager the pair of cunts have taken from another job was Steve Bruce from palace while at Birmingham. Even then they tried to do it on the cheap and it got all messy hence why that orange cսnt Simon Jordan can't Stand em.
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"Reo-Coker at it now; ""It was a bad day at the office for sure, but I don't really think there's too much blame you can give to David Moyes as a manager, because for me the players across the pitch just did not compete with Arsenal""ù Fuck sake."
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