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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
- Massive Attack
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"Had a mad thought yesterday about the possibility of Tuchel arriving this Summer, that could he be able to solve our long-standing Striker problem we've had since the last millennium. Harry Kane. I know, I know, I know, you absolute dreamer, Massive, never ever gonna happen. But not only did Tuchel convince him to leave the Prem amd his beloved Spurs for the Bundesliga, he'll also be 31yo. Sure the price would be steep but it did get me thinking, Kane will eventually want to break the Prem goal scoring record and a route back, maybe test the water if Tuchel did become out next manager."
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"""To sign 25 goal Kane and not do the usual thing like win trophies isn't a good recommendation."" Think it's Kane that's the problem. Bloke seems to be allergic to trophies."
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"A few things need to happen over the next few months. Nothing set out below is revolutionary and will surprise no one ( nothing many others would not recommend too in other words) but at West Ham the things that you would think should happen are never certainties. I've always wondered just where Sullivans thinking is? He is depicted as dishonest and economical with the truth? His communications on transfers, the stadium move only seem to contirm it. That said, none of us have met him so perhaps he means well but is just incredibly poor with expectation setting ? :-) Then again, his whole history seems to point to someone who is ""dodgy""ù and untrustworthy. What does he really want for the club? A cash cow? Something for his kids to inherit? To sell at huge profit? Does anyone actually know? Anyway, I digress as always. What seems certain to most of us is that Sullivan must not be involved in any football decisions other than board voting for change of directors or the manager, transfer budget investment levels etc Sullivan needs to sack Moyes asap or at least before next summer. Its still no certainty. I fear a win or two and we are stuck with him for another 2 years. That would be a huge missed opportunity. Its a dreadful conflict wanting to win games like on Monday but fearingbit means the continuation of a manager who dud a decent job but who has shown he can take us no further having been sussed out tactically 2 years ago domestically and limited in European competition as I think we are about to find out sadly. Steidten needs to be empowered to make all the football decisions including selection of a coach not a manager. Steidten is the only hope we have tbh. He may not live up to expectations ( he may not be the messiah etc ) but he seems honest and competent and has some sort of a vision and objectives. Give him the autonomy he needs to move the club forward Mr Sullivan for gawds sake ! A big investment needed in summer. 200'million imo which will unfortunately mean having to sell Paqueta to City for 100 million. Not ideal but the squad is like a piece of swiss cheese and to get a manager in to move us to being more of possession.based team with pace skill etc and requisite quality players its gonna take that kind of investment level. 3 years FFP starts again this summer so its a good time to splash out and hopefully get more of the calibre of players we got from Steidten last summer ( even the greek will come good i think) Piece of piss this football club management malarky. :-) But I suspect very little of the above will happen except the selling of Paqueta part and it will be Moyes or some other Sullivan manager choice, Steidten will be off and Sullivan will be back using his favoured agents? The rumour that we didnt get Osman last window because Silkman advised Sullivan he was not worth what they were asking? If true, i fear the worst case scenario. Next 3 - 4 months is another watershed period for the club. Will the right steps be taken just once in our lifetimes? Or will the hapless circus continue?"
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A Nazi? WOW I'd be looking for a few things Relative youth ... no more tired old timers like Pellegrini A record with a team at our level ... someone who is used to competing not having the best squad & lots of money. Not that a 'super coach' is likely to come Hunger A wish to play on the front foot and take teams on I'd trust Steidten to assess the possibles & make a selection With Sullivan locked in a dryer in the change room throughout the process
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"We're getting a lot of links to Tomas Tuchel from Bayern Munich but I really hope we aren't interested in him. I watched him closely a few years ago when he was at Chelsea. A close mate is Chelsea and spoke highly of him. I said I thought he was a Nazi because of way he screamed at his own players. Seems he has not done the usual trick of winning everything at Bayern and lost out in super cup to Leipzig having fallen out with key players. To sign 25 goal Kane and not do the usual thing like win trophies isn't a good recommendation. So's being told he isn't staying after season finishes""¶"
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"I watch Gonzo on Hammers Chat most mornings but rarely get to the end. It's a bit like WHO but without the stupid trolls""¶"
- Takashi Miike
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"I get it, but at times like this, that fucking dwarf parasite needs to be held to account so the more negativity towards him the better. I avoid many channels, I like Irish tommy on the hammers network and I also like e20 james, but I have to avoid certain shows he does because of certain people he has on that wind me up üòÇ"
- Manuel
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"miike - It's harmless at the end of the day of course and is something to watch when having your dinner (which is what I do) All my original point was is that they have now resorted to just making stuff up, so just can't be taken seriously anymore, they have lost any credibility for me, I'm specifically talking about c&b and HC. Russ from the network is pretty good for subjective, level headed content."
- Lee Trundle
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"I don't watch the Youtube stuff, but if they're keeping the heat on Moyes with their videos then I'm all for it. Actually that's a lie. I occasionally listen the stuff that Aberdeen Iron's lad does. He comes across well, and I agree with a hell of lot of his opinions on the club."
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"Personally Claret and Booze is the one I like the most. They've been Moyes out since I've been Moyes out (around 24 months) and their views tend to mirror my own to some extent. Do they have a real 'source'? Maybe, maybe not. I don't really care...but I like their anti-Moyes content and their views resonate. Plus they have a small channel and aren't in it for the ad revenue. Geo is the other one I like. Gonzo...no thanks. And not found the others entertaining enough."
- Takashi Miike
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"I didn't say I enjoy it but I'd rather they criticise and question what's going on than pretend everything's great, which is what certain channels were doing up until the last week or so. if you listen closely, that certain channel often quote texts or conversations they have with whetstone, who has sullivan's hand up his arse working his mouth. that, for me, makes them another conduit for the board so all the pretend rebellion they've been displaying in the past week is bollocks. there's only one channel that's been consistent, yet it's the one that winds up people the most. I love that"
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"All the channels have some good stuff on , such as Hammers Chat speaking to Bishop and Anton or West Ham Network talking to various Hammers celebrities or well known supporters about their all time XI. The news cycle stuff is to keep people engaged and watching their channels. They have to do it, because if they don't the others will. Some of them do the YT as their day job so they have to continuously put out content. However, when it comes to news, transfers, etc, like you Manuel I don't bother. The scream queen Nick on Claret and Booze continuously get things wrong, so leads me to speculate that their sources are made up, but to their credit, their phone in show can be funny, as it's proper West Ham calling in, not fat no charisma posh elephants like the geezer who gets air time on Hammers Chat. In fact, with all the made up bollocks on Claret and Booze and the miserable cunts that host and phone in, they'd fit right at home on here."
- Manuel
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"miike - If you still enjoy listening to their made up daily clickbait garbage then all good, personally I think it's an insult that they think people are going to believe what they come out with now, even more so since they change the story every day ffs ''my source has informed me'' haha. They know fuck all, embarrassing shit now."
- Takashi Miike
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"the channels are going to speculate and moan when there's fuck all football to analyse. It's shit game after game after game, I'd rather they be honest and do what they're doing, than try and polish the turd called moyesball"
- Manuel
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"The clickbait headlines from the usual YT channels are a complete disgrace now, I don't bother with them any longer. Nobody has a scooby what is going on, all I know is this whole daily sage has become very tedious now and is consuming everything, no one even talks about players performances or anything else any longer."
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"Thx David L, yes there is talk that Sullivan would still entertain employing a young English manager. Bennett has worked at several English clubs and brought success. He has a humility that Sullivan will like as he allegedly worked in the hospitality industry as a waiter for many years and is an expert describing and making tapas and paella ?"
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Sullivan apparently finally accepts that it may mean looking at a younger up and coming managers who may not be English He has allegedly compiled his own list which a top source at the club got a brief sight of. On the first and only page were some names we may be less familiar with as we wont have researched the globe as he has. The likes of Stefano Bruciano and Collino Wancari are guys he'd consider. But he did think some young whippersnapper called Antoni Pullisimo was a tad too young. Good times ahead under our cuddly little Russian despot
- Massive Attack
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I didn't invent a board contact though did I? I'll explain again for a simpleton like you. It was a pal that is friends with a current board member's family who told them this. No wonder so many posters are now ex posters with so called fans like you spamming threads!