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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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BillyJenningsBoots
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"Nutsack Only as seriously as we are supposed to take this drivel... Moyes has set us up defensively far too often because he understands what players he has in his squad, he knows he can't trust the likes of Fornals and Benny 1 He manages the fucking squad if its not what he wants he should get the players in... 2. He set up to defend second half against Villa when he had all the attacking options he needed 3. He ruined Fornals and Benny to the point they had to leave Yet you think Moyes is great... no other club around or above us would employ David Moyes as their manager... so why do we?"
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"Pellegrini had us in 5th place until Fabianski got injured. It was only because his understudy was so awful that we dropped down the table, nothing to do with being too attacking. Remember that Moyes came in immediately after Fabianksi returned from injury and yet he only managed about the same number of points per game as Pellegrini had that season."
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BillyJenningsBoots
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Nutsin son give it up dont just ignore me just stop posting full stop...you are making yourself look worse if thats possible..
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"Nagel now talking about what ifs ffs! Yeah Johnson's confidence was shot playing full back, he is much better going forward than defending, if Johnson moves on he'll end up in the championship, if he stays (doubtful) he will be a squad player, but he won't be a full back. Even Johnson knows he can't cut it in the prem as a full back ffs. You're the only one who thinks he is ffs. The rest of your post again is you talking bollocks."
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BillyJenningsBoots
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"Sydney We dont hate anyone... what an odd thing to say. We just dont think he should get a new contract. We dont hate any ex-player cos they toe the line if they have a job at the club we just dont repect their opinion because its clouded. I dont hate Sullivan he saved the club and is investing in players he just needs to grow some and get rid of Moyes at the end of the season... and I dont hate you or Nutsin, Joyo etc I pity you for your inblility to understand club management beyond the weekly results."
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"Yes Nagel, I blamed the style of play on the players, I said that Benrahma and Fiornals were a liability in attack and exposed us defensively which is why Moyes didn't fancy them, I suspect the same with Cornet. I know we all like an attacking team but we can't ignore the defensive side of the ball, remember Pellegrini? A classic example of what you want Nagel unfortunately it doesn't translate into wins."
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BillyJenningsBoots
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BillyJenningsBoots
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Oh and what is absolutely the blindest yet funniest thing Ive ever heard Nutsack.... implying Moyes has developed Ben Johnson.. that just sums up you are absolutely up Moyes backside... Moyes has not developed him hes left him out in the wilderness after a couple of poor performances while Coufal and Soucek have both had extended periods of poor matches and left them to it.. he then brings Johnson back in when he has no choice Johnson shows some spark at least during some utter tripe performances by the rest... then he drops him again only to bring him on to replace Antonio on the left... now hes binned him off and will leave at the end of the season genius development ... you are as mental as Moyes if you think thats developing a player.. so do fuck off...
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Sydney_Iron
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"End of the day, most of us want a change in management and in time ownership but in the meantime we still want to see us do well and WIN football matches The more rational amongst us can't understand the blind hatred! Hate manager (insert name) Hate owners (insert name) Hate former players simply because they work or represent the club(insert name, eg Noble, Carlton Cole, Ginge etc) Hate any fan who doesn't subscribe to the above. Hate the Stadium( even though they constantly moaned about UP)"
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"Nutsin, So you agree that the football is at times awful, but blame the style of football on the players? That's a weird fucking take, it really is. He's brought in more than 20 players since he's been back and had way more money to do so than any other manager in our history. He's had the resources to play the game any way he damn well pleases. And if Moyes struggles with keeping players fresh then maybe he needs to show a bit of faith in those outside the regular first 11 so when they are called upon they're not completely rusty. He might even actually help develop some of our younger players, like what happens at most clubs. You mention Johnson, who is literally the only player that Moyes has brought through the youths to be a first team squad regular. You can't seriously think that he's been well managed. The idea that Moyes has pulled off a masterstroke by playing him out of position is hilarious. If he's been playing better in recent weeks it's probably because he's looking to get picked up by another club on a free this summer and is putting more effort in. And when he does join another club, I'll tell you this, it won't be as an attacking midfielder. Finally, this guff at the end about how we must be doing something right if we're just below all them teams that have spent more than us doesn't make sense. We're only just above Brighton and Wolves, who could both be above us if they win their game in hand, and they've spent fuck all by comparison. It's only Newcastle and Chelsea who are massively underachieving, and if they get their act together in the coming weeks then we could well finish bottom half, again."
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BillyJenningsBoots
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Nutsack... you really are a pathetic clueless Moyes lap poodle So you rest your case based on what exactly.. nothing Ive said is untrue.. you simply cant argue against any of it can you. Case for #moyesout rests
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Nutsin You are making the same mistake that so many pundits make. It isn't about our league position. It's about Moyes being incompetent in many aspects of management. Hard to say about a manager with over 1000 games to his credit but it's provable. We have a squad of 14 players and others that make up the numbers. Moyes learnt his trade when 1 sub was all that was allowed. Things moved on but Moyes hasn't. This is why players that aren't first choices get blanked and why youth doesn't get a chance as the table below demonstrates. It's Moyes that can't cope with having choices. His players will only ever be ones that can defend better than they can attack. It's why our kids that are second in PL2 (while Liverpool's kids are 6th) yet our youngsters are never going to be good enough while Liverpool use theirs every chance Klopp gets. This is what holds us back in real life. A manager that is much worse than his players because Tim Steidten got in the 3 key players never would. Maguire and McTominay are decent but Man Utd's cast offs. Wilson is a decent striker for Newcastle but now their reserve striker. Why does Moyes want these players for £millions when they are cast offs from clubs we should be above?
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Lee Trundle
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Plays on the right? He's played centre back more than he's played there. You calling Moyes a shit manager for playing a right winger at centre back for so many times?
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"It really comes down to West Ham board ambition. If the hard metrics of league positions and cup runs are pretty much where they expect to be, then what is their incentive for change? it's not going to be 'customer satisfaction' as they sell every seat. So do they think a new manager will increase their returns by improving league position or gaining additional sell-on value from players? Like it or not, I'm sure those are the conversations that will drive their decisions."
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Lee Trundle
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"If Johnson is improving, why is his game time falling over the last few seasons? Surely a decent manager would play an improving player more? You calling him a shit manager, Nuts?"
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"Nagel Out of all that the only point worth responding to is the type of football we have played. I agree at times it has been awful but not always. Moyes has set us up defensively far too often because he understands what players he has in his squad, he knows he can't trust the likes of Fornals and Benny when we go forward because the chances are they'll lose it and expose us to a counter attack. He also knows we lack quality of squad and with our deep runs in Europe he has to manage the starters mins. It's hard to play press week in week out when you are trying to keep your key players fresh for an entire season. Everyone is slagging off the Johnson sub but nobody is mentioning how Johnson has developed, all of a sudden we are seeing a footballer emerge, let's face it he was shit at full back, perhaps Moyes is onto something? Who knows, but Johnson is improving. As I have said mistakes have been made, not sure they are all Moyes fault however. To build a Team who play like Barcelona and can compete at the highest level takes a bit more than 400 million these days. And with the limits with the FFP none of us really know the state of our books when it comes to what we can afford and what we can't and how it all translates in a transfer window and how it translates in the big picture. There is so much more to building a squad than simply splashing the cash and buying any old replacement because you sold a championship player or two. So give it a rest ffs. We are a work in progress competing in a league where you have the likes of City, Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea outspending us, and only 2 others above us currently in the table, Spurs and Villa who have been splashing the cash too. Not bad company to be amongst considering we have such a shit manager. It all must be luck! Ffs!"
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"Willtell 2:11 Fri Mar 22 Spot on... that sums up why I want Moyes out. If Moyes set the team up to play on the front foot on a consistent basis, like he did against Freiberg, I'd be perfectly happy for Moyes to remain in post but it is just against his whole footballing ethos so that plainly isn't going to happen. In my opinion Moyes's biggest fuck up was not getting a decent striker in in the January 2022 (?) window. Everyone was clamouring for a back up to Antonio. We were going well in Europe and seriously challenging for a CL place in the league. What happened? Nothing. Dithering Dave said he couldn't find anyone to improve the squad, Antonio got injured and the form tailed off. That was our sliding doors moment..."
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Takashi Miike
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"""Truth be told every one of your posts paints you as a bit of a simpleton, didn't want to say it but it's the truth. "" you said I get my info from two clear board puppets, both of which I wouldn't piss on, if on fire. to not even realise what they are, and their purpose shows how dense you are. as I've said to other moyes fundamentalists, of which your by far one of the worst, if you can't handle him being criticised and if it hurts your feelings, stay the fuck off the thread"
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"BillyJenningsBoots 2:38 Fri Mar 22 Re: Moyes Out Goose ... So tell us why we dropped points againsg some if the worst teams to ever play in the Prem.... because Moyes reverted to his defensive plan A against Burnley ffs why should we put up with that? Why should you put up with it is your choice. If you don't like it then stop going and stop giving them your money. We dropped points because we didn't play well, but that's football - its not linear. Somethimes we beat teams who are better than us and sometimes we drop points against shit teams. At the start of the season if we had been offered 7th or 8th and at least the qtr final of the Europa league I think 99% of fans would say thats a decent return. if you wanna criticise 'how' thats been achieved then you wont get an argument from me - but those are the facts of the matter."
