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"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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A bit of both Nutsin son
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Agree that a Premier league team SHOULD be in the semi finals at least but obviously all Hammers who had waited 43 years loved it and will be grateful for Moyes for it Which is why I hope an announcement is made pre the last home game (Luton May 11) so that Moyes can get a GENUINE warm farewell That said the performance of other Premier league teams in the Europa Conference were: Tottenham ... unable to get out of the group stages against League 1/lower Championship standard teams Leicester ... lost in the semis Villa .... in the semis after scrambling through a quarter final on pens after an 87min goal
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"I stopped reading at the ""don't get me wrong I went mental when we won it""ù part. I'm assuming the rest was gratitude Matt."
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"just to put the cup win into perspective dont get me wrong i went mental when we won it But honeslty with the teams we played it doesnt add up to e.g. the 1980 FA cup win or even thr Europa League ther previous year. Yes you can only beat the team in front of you and Slav for example used to bomb us out in the qualificiation rounds/ not take Europe seriously/ only Fiorentina were a proper game - and we had the odd scare along the way Here's the rankings (from some website) West Ham 76 (May 2023) Fiorentina 49 (May 2023) Alkmaar 116 Gent 189 Larnaca 176 Steau Bucharest 171 Silkeborg 1100 ish Anderlecht 139 just to say yes he won us a cup, but the english team in the conference should be getting to the final/ last 4 at least!"
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Post Matthew Holmes »

good list daveyg!
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"Sydney. He didn't save us from the drop he got 20 points as opposed to Pellegrines 19. That would have saved us too. Last year he almost got us relegated, I'm not clapping that."
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I'll repeat it not just the ugly football. It's the subs he doesn't use Lack of youth players involved when they're the best we've had in years. Poor man management. Disrespectful to certain players Kral and Fornals. But keeps the likes of Cresswell involved. (I do like Cresswell but he's been past it over 2 years ) Purchase of players like Phillips. Oldest squad. Continually playing players out of position Disrespect to fans. -9 goal difference for an attacking team.
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"You're spot on there, COYI."
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"Former Arsenal and Chelsea midfielder Cesc Fabregas has questioned where the ""line"" is when it comes to complaints from West Ham fans about manager David Moyes. The 60-year-old guided the Hammers to Europa Conference League glory last season and has also steered them to the final stages of the Europa League on two occasions. However, with his contract up in June, and West Ham reeling from a heavy defeat at Crystal Palace last time out, his future remains uncertain. ""I have a couple of friends that are big, big West Ham supporters and sometimes I ask the question, 'Why do you guys attack David Moyes so much when he's getting the right results?',"" Fabregas asked on the Planet Premier League podcast. ""Last year they won a European cup, they were fighting for Europe up until not long ago and having good results. They said 'we love him for the results, but we don't like him because of the style', and he says 'we are unwatchable'. These are the words sometimes that they use, which I cannot really say anything because I'm not someone to judge this as I don't watch them week in, week out. ""But I think this is the only thing they complain [about]. I said, 'Yeah, but what do you prefer? To play good football and not get the results? Or to play football that suits him and get the results?', because at the end of the day, where is the line?"" The Hammers boss is yet to agree a new deal with the club and there has been talk of Sporting Lisbon manager Ruben Amorim as a candidate to replace him. ""Someone else will come and will start playing very good football but they will not win games and then they will be complaining at the other thing,"" added Fabregas. ""He [Moyes] has been successful""¶ I respect [him] a lot for what he's done in football and for the man that I know he is."" ___ Why do idiots like Fabregas never mention the third option: to play good football and to win? To them, it is a zero-sum game for little old clubs like West Ham. Play boring, pragmatic football and get results (disregarding our thrashings away at Villa, Fulham and Palace amongst others this season) or play attacking football and 'inevitably' not get 'results'. These media people openly admit they don't watch us week-in, week-out yet slag off fans who do - and pay good money for the privilege. At least the board has finally realised we need to move on from Moyes the Jockosaurus and his Jurassic tactics."
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"I agree with the last 3 posters(including Oxbore),but if l had posted any of that l would be called cսnt/nonce lol"
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"I think it's pretty clear he's going, and if he does i will be at the Luton game and have no problem showing appreciation for that Cup in particular, and that first stint where he was instrumental in saving us from the drop. All seemed to go south after the failed transfer window when we were pushing for top 4, but signed on one, the irony is we ended up in the conference spot and won the thig :-) but that window was the turning point and then we struggled last season and only that cup win kept him in the job, he should have left then, but it wasn't to be. Good luck and Thanks is my message, no bitterness or hatred from me. COYI"
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"Clearly he has gone, I'm just mildly intrigued if it is to be formally announced after the last game, as it was with fatso, or before Luton Town to give him the opportunity to give us all a nice goodbye, bless. I suspect it will be the former. That said, a lot can happen in three weeks, so who weally knows."
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"Moyes DID good, but he's no longer DOING good. Some people/posters seem to have a difficulty differentiating between the two. We need DOING good to move forward; focussing in what he DID the past is akin to wanting former players to come back to us once they've given their best years elsewhere and expecting them to be at the top of their game. So, his time has come, been & gone - as he should."
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"Divi daveyg if you want to learn to call people cսnt you should take lessons off Talkingshite Miike,as that's the only thing he seems to post You calling me cսnt was l agree pretty lame"
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"Joyo I never really liked calling people c**t but it's lacked it's aggressive meaning over the last 5 to 10 years. If you called someone a c**t 20 years ago it would it shock most people now.Thus it's not that aggressive but you,Moyes and twoleftcunts are definitely one. Ironically enough I first used it when describing Moyes when he first came to the club and have regularly called him that. I agree with Pent. I listened to Bianca Westwood on Talkshite for the he'll of it. Trying to call Moyes a legend, now that is her being an idiot, stupid and not seeing what we see."
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"The media are all his chums and colleagues. The talksport lot are all represented by the same agents through PR and or after dinner speaking and the press are barred from his pressers should they dare not to chalk up his ""successes"" before every question. Once he is out of a job I suspect we will start to get slightly more truthful opinions. I know for a fact Tony Gale thinks different privately to what he says publicly. Also same can be said for Danny Dyer. Jim white is a glove puppet of both Sullivan and Moyes and Jordan hates us supporters as much as he does Sullivan. Look how his mate Warburton turned on him initially then back tracked after a little chat. Brazil and Mcoist will never throw a fellow sweaty under the bus and then to top it all off, Moyes has the backing of Fergie and this stretches into the golf world and horse world so the media will NEVER coat Moyes until he is back to being irrelevent and then i suspect you will get some truths. We CERTAINLY will from the players, you can bet your house on that."
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"It seems it's fine to want an upgrade on your players, but not your manager according to the press and pundits."
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*never* played outside the top 2 divisions.
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"Honestly don't understand why we are the only club in the country who are not allowed to be ambitious and demand more from our managers. We're lazily tagged as a yo yo club when fact is we're not. We are only one of 8 clubs who have played outside the top 2 divisions. We've spent the vast majority of the last 65 years in the top flight. Have only been relegated a handful of times and spent at most 2 seasons down before returning. Newcastle have been more of a yo yo club than us in recent times and have not won a major trophy since 1955, in the period we have won 5, yet according to Shearer they are in a league above us and we should be careful what we wish for We also have the 2nd highest attendances in the UK and are in the top 10 highest in Europe. There aren't many bigger clubs than us, going on fanbase, history & recent history and wealth I rank us amongst the top 10 English clubs."
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Keep Moaning 4.03....why don't you go buy yourself a sense of humour you miserable prick
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"At the end of the day, he signed a 4 year contract, has been paid millions throughout that tenure and now that has come to an end. Which is why its so irratating that lazy journalism and pundits are making out that he has been hard done by the clubs and blaming the fans for something untowards. No-one has broken any contract, unlike 95% of other clubs and in some cases at least twice a season where sackings are the norm."
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"joyo 2:26 Wed Apr 24 I agreed with you initially/ But the more I think and read Pentonvilles post, the more I agree with him. Every point he raises is true. And to be frank, Moyes this season has painted himself as a really nasty bastard. A West Ham fan of 50 years told me Sunday they wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. And I get it. I really do. Moyes attitude is disgraceful and he does hold us in disdain because we dare question him. He has seen off five coaches in his time at West Ham Proper footballing people too. They can't stand him. But because Moyes somehow has this teflon guard and this respected view in the media, none of them have ever told the truth. Bloke is a cսnt. End of. And when he does, he will go with my thanks for his efforts, but I won't lose a second of sleep over it. Good riddance to him."
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Pentonville... spot on.. I know we didnt get the opportunity to thank John Lyall when he was booted out... but he deserved the honour of a farewell after serving the club for 30 years... and where's his statue?
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"Cheap point jojo. Try looking the other way, he certainly hasn't coached Arsenal..."
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No idea why they don't like paying a few million to secure a managerial target but are apparently quite willing to waste 10s of millions on transfers and wages due to the manager they appointed for free. Seems like the definition of madness to me.
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