The Notting Hill Carnival

[Hammer and Pickle]

“Like Cape Canaveral only with a lot more brothers” Sasha Cohen Always a great day out if you know how to handle yourself. Best act this time?

[goose]

wils 
Still waiting for YOUR greatest city


goose
I know you have a soft spot for Lecce but you will have to remind of cities you think superior to London
I must have zoned out your racist drivel at some point 
Assume none have Ethiopian restaurants that you find so triggering 


 

 

 

It’s pointless me re-posting my list as you’re a complete stranger to facts or the truth.

No idea why you keep mentioning Paris, I’ve not mentioned it once you oddball.

[wils]

wils 
Still waiting for YOUR greatest city



 

 

 

To be honest it's not something I give much thought to, My original point was that the only people who go around saying "London is the greatest city" are just trying to rile the people with a sense of loss over what it is has become, possibly to feed a sense of their own superiority they have over these people. As the original post on the thread was clearly doing. After all, if it was the greatest city in the world it would be truism to go around stating it. The only value in doing so is to make a political point.

But seeing as you as asked. At the end of the 20th Century I would have gone for an Australian city, probably Sydney. But I think that's probably no longer the case. It's probably now an Asian city. I'm not familiar enough with them all to have an opinion on which one. It may even be an African city if there are any peaceful enough. The latter might be an odd choice but Africa has high fertility rates and is becoming wealthier all the time. It will be providing opportunities and a settled culture for people to thrive in if they can keep a lid on crime. In my mind the quality of life in western cities is perceived through a nostalgic lens for what they once were. Does that answer your question?

[Mike Oxsaw]

The Hague is the seat of government 
Like saying Canberra is the greatest city in Australia 

Stockholm & Lisbon are very nice cities for a short city … but the greatest? Hmmm
Probably would rank Tokyo or NYC as any serious rivals
Would say Paris but goose saw RATS there 




 

Perhaps Canberra is the greatest city in Australia. I can't say though, on account of never having lived/worked there.

Is being the seat of government a positive or a negative aspect?

[Fauxstralian]

The Hague is the seat of government 
Like saying Canberra is the greatest city in Australia 

Stockholm & Lisbon are very nice cities for a short city … but the greatest? Hmmm
Probably would rank Tokyo or NYC as any serious rivals
Would say Paris but goose saw RATS there 



 

[Fauxstralian]

wils 
Still waiting for YOUR greatest city


goose
I know you have a soft spot for Lecce but you will have to remind of cities you think superior to London
I must have zoned out your racist drivel at some point 
Assume none have Ethiopian restaurants that you find so triggering 
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

In no particular order, and each for various reasons, the following are all (ALL) greater than London:

• Jakarta,
• Stockholm
• Kuala Lumpur
• The Hague
• Lisbon
• Muscat.

[Hammer and Pickle]

People come for the opportunities and careers
And the life and culture.


 

 

And after they get first hand experience of it they leave en masse. It sounds good in the abstract but in practice people tire very quickly and decide they need important things that the city can't provide for them, A good city is a home with broad appeal for people in many different stages in their lives a culture which bonds them, not just a lifestyle theme park for dislocated people in their 20s.

Goodness me.

Anyone would think you are running a West Ham United fans’ site for those tired of life.

[wils]

People come for the opportunities and careers
And the life and culture.

 

 

 

And after they get first hand experience of it they leave en masse. It sounds good in the abstract but in practice people tire very quickly and decide they need important things that the city can't provide for them, A good city is a home with broad appeal for people in many different stages in their lives a culture which bonds them, not just a lifestyle theme park for dislocated people in their 20s.

[goose]

People come for the opportunities and careers
And the life and culture.
The job range if you have skills and qualifications are immense

Still waiting for someone to tell me THEIR greatest city
Yours?
Don’t be shy.
Goose reckons it’s Lecce. 

Goose gave you a list of about 6 that I believe are better, alongside reasons why. You chose to ignore all of this when faced with a reasonable argument why London has become a dump.

you’ve spent weeks trying to talk about a city (Lecce)
you’ve never been to and have no understanding of.

[Fauxstralian]

People come for the opportunities and careers
And the life and culture.
The job range if you have skills and qualifications are immense

Still waiting for someone to tell me THEIR greatest city
Yours?
Don’t be shy.
Goose reckons it’s Lecce. 

[wils]

wils 
People leave & more come. Different places have different positives & negatives & suit people at different stages of their lives.
What is YOUR nomination for the greatest city in the world? And what does it have that London doesn’t?
And why don’t you live there?

 

 

The people coming are either incentivised by the prospect of free housing (half of London's social housing is headed by someone born outside of UK) or they are young and think the city will provide them opportunities to escape their problems or to 'make it' in someway. This makes the city unsettled with a constant churn where there is little intergenerational bonds in the communities that do form. Even the enclaves of middle-class English/Europeans empty out at Christmas or summer school holidays as everyone leaves to renew bonds with people in the places they came from. The 'vibrant' life here is very shallow and superficial in that sense.

As for why I live here? My personal priorities are well served currently but those priorities are unlikely to be shared by most other people. When determining if a city is the 'greatest' you need some objective measure and I don't think you can have a better one than how many newcomers stay and settle after the novelty of bright lights wears off. Those provided with cheap housing in close proximity to the large job market may well do so. But private renters and those looking to buy largely escape for a better quality of life elsewhere. Hardly something you would expect to happen in a city that was objective the 'greatest'.

[WHU(Exeter)]

It’s certainly further indication that you’re fucking mental.

Not that any was needed.

[Hammer and Pickle]

So you’ve seen two gigs? And that’s enough for you to think that you know the benchmark?

Yeah, nothing narcissistic about that whatsoever.

Just an indicator for you.

Not that you’ll be able to read it of course (Sitter).

[WHU(Exeter)]

So you’ve seen two gigs? And that’s enough for you to think that you know the benchmark?

Yeah, nothing narcissistic about that whatsoever.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Well, since I’ve seen Burning Spear at Brixton Academy and Black Uhuru at Wembley in the 80s, I might know the benchmark as it goes.

[WHU(Exeter)]

It’s hardly “unique” either is it?

[WHU(Exeter)]

Who were your “top acts” though Pickle? 

I’m guessing of course that you’re purveying a knowledgeable enough appreciation of all the music involved, to take stock of replies and engage with any replies to your query?

or would it be closer to the mark to say that you wouldn’t have a fucking clue what they were talking about?

tough call, I think I’ll go for the latter though.

[goose]

Actually, I think the NHC is a symbol of successful assimilation on a world scale. It’s unique and imagine someone was foolish enough to try to ban it.

How would you know? You’ve never been.
You may as well talk about what Diwali is like in Bangalore.

[WHU(Exeter)]

Yeah, don’t let me get in the way of your insane ramblings.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Actually, I think the NHC is a symbol of successful assimilation on a world scale. It’s unique and imagine someone was foolish enough to try to ban it.

[WHU(Exeter)]

No, maybe you’re actually onto something?

Middlesbrough away on a Tuesday night, is usually a barrel of laughs. So many lovely pubs to visit before and after the game, and the locals are great!

mind you, saying that, I’ve never been.

You’re fucking mental.

Enjoy the international break weekend.

[Hammer and Pickle]

So you’ve never been there, yet claim that it’s a great day out, if you know how to handle yourself?

so much so, that you start a thread with that very intro?

were you pissed at the time of writing?

Goodness me.

Who moved the fucking rock?

[goose]

I see goose still won't condemn the peado priests of the Catholic church 
London is one the great cities of the world,even though it has it's problems ,Lecce is no comparison 

Someone’s got a new user name…….. I smell a nonce.

[goose]

I’ve never been to the NHC, (Sitter). As a Londoner at the time, it was one of those things I tended to see as over-commercial and would avoid. Kind of regret that now looking back.

So you started a thread telling everyone about how good Carnival is, and you’ve never fucking been??

you really are a desperate cսnt.

[WHU(Exeter)]

So you’ve never been there, yet claim that it’s a great day out, if you know how to handle yourself?

so much so, that you start a thread with that very intro?

were you pissed at the time of writing?