Fulham vs West Ham United | EPL | Match Thread | 14.9.2024

[stubbo-admin]

Match Centre:

Odds:
West Ham: 2/1
Draw: 27/10
Fulham: 29/20

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COYI

[Vexed]

 

There is no doubt 'loser Lop' is a fucking idiot. He is a total fraud and that is the reason he has been sacked from every elite managerial job he has ever had bar Wolves (which he walked out of in a hissy fit over the transfer budget).

Relegation battle ahead.

I think you'll find that almost every manager in the league has been sacked from every managerial job they've had except the one they're in. Ya fucking vegetable. 

[Sir Alf]

Yeah he just scored an absolute stunner 

[twoleftfeet]

Fancy not signing Duran. Fucking laughable.

[Gank]

Picked a shit starting lineup, we played shit and conceded a shit goal. Made changes at half time and brought on slightly less shit players. As a result we were slightly less shit. He panics and throws on some players out of desperation and gets lucky. 

I'm starting to get concerned this bloke is a fucking idiot. I wasn't expecting us to be firing on all cylinders for a while yet but I'd hope that he'd have a bit of a clue who his best players are and have some sort of system in place by now. We have none of that. We look fucking rubbish. Our striking options are all slow as balls. That starting lineup today was pathetic. 

It's not looking too good. 

There is no doubt 'loser Lop' is a fucking idiot. He is a total fraud and that is the reason he has been sacked from every elite managerial job he has ever had bar Wolves (which he walked out of in a hissy fit over the transfer budget).

Relegation battle ahead.

I’m marking your words

[Mike Oxsaw]

Fucking hell! How desperate for attention is COYI?

Almost puts pickled to shame.

[Come On You Irons]

Picked a shit starting lineup, we played shit and conceded a shit goal. Made changes at half time and brought on slightly less shit players. As a result we were slightly less shit. He panics and throws on some players out of desperation and gets lucky. 

I'm starting to get concerned this bloke is a fucking idiot. I wasn't expecting us to be firing on all cylinders for a while yet but I'd hope that he'd have a bit of a clue who his best players are and have some sort of system in place by now. We have none of that. We look fucking rubbish. Our striking options are all slow as balls. That starting lineup today was pathetic. 

It's not looking too good. 

There is no doubt 'loser Lop' is a fucking idiot. He is a total fraud and that is the reason he has been sacked from every elite managerial job he has ever had bar Wolves (which he walked out of in a hissy fit over the transfer budget).

Relegation battle ahead.

[Vexed]

Picked a shit starting lineup, we played shit and conceded a shit goal. Made changes at half time and brought on slightly less shit players. As a result we were slightly less shit. He panics and throws on some players out of desperation and gets lucky. 

I'm starting to get concerned this bloke is a fucking idiot. I wasn't expecting us to be firing on all cylinders for a while yet but I'd hope that he'd have a bit of a clue who his best players are and have some sort of system in place by now. We have none of that. We look fucking rubbish. Our striking options are all slow as balls. That starting lineup today was pathetic. 

It's not looking too good. 

[Sir Alf]

Agree with nyhammer.  I know fans ( I certainly do it ) tend to talk in binary terms ( we’re shit when we’re losing, we’re great when winning etc ) but its not quite that  simple. We were certainly no better than Moyes team of the past 2 years in that first half and like many I was astonished that he picked Antonio and Soucek to start. But perhaps he has done that to ensure no member of the squad can say they were not given chances which can result in squad factions and problems in dressing rooms. He may also be guilty of trying to give the new players too much time to bed in and assimilate to the league?

If Soucek and Antonio are benched in league games from here on in, I can give just about Loppy benefit of the doubt.

We were certainly better 2nd half ( not hard ) and started to keep the ball a lot better. We need to move it faster but having another outlet in Summerville helped a lot and Paqueta then Soler saw us starting to cause them some issues.

i like others will wait a few more games because I could see some promise 2nd half with the likes of Alvarez, Rodriguez, Paqueta and later on Soler in the midfield. I thought Kudus was poor today and the need for a strong, fast forward now seems the biggest problem to solve.  

anyway, thought we did just enough 2nd half to get a point even though we should have been 2 or 3 down in that awful first half.  

Jury out on Loppy still. Lets see what he comes up with next game. Not ready to write him off as its far too early but equally not overwhelmed with him after 5 or so games.  

[zico]

Early days but still not sure about JL or some of the signings.  Not sure if Tim Steidten is the messiah either but time will tell.  Kilman looks a good buy as does Wan Bissaka but hopefully Rodriguez will get better as time goes on and Summerville will adjust to the PL as he looks lightweight at the moment.  Soler clearly needs time and Füllkrug needs to get fit and get some game time, Todibo likewise.  Not sure what the point of Luis Guilherme was at the moment.  Maybe just a case of fitting in so many new faces and them finding their feet but you don't get too much time in the PL these days.

Extremely poor first half and whilst the subs at half time made a difference I called exactly the same subs 15 minutes before so hardly rocket science.  Decent second half with more effort and closing down but basically showed why I wish we had pushed the boat out for a top striker.  Still not sure how you get the best out of both Bowen and Kudus as they are both clearly suited to the right.  

JL has shown loyalty to old hands but clearly Soucek and Antonio shouldn't be anywhere near a starting eleven if all are fit.  Soucek obviously can be thrown on if you need a goal and go direct but as sad as it is Micky has been done for two years now.  His strengths papered over his weaknesses but he hasn't any strengths left now and his laziness doesn't help.  If either start again there have to be questions asked.  I guess Ings deseves a chance especially if we are going to play on the front foot, but up front not bizarrely as a No 10 behind Bowen as it seemed to look when he came on.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Think Lops deserves some credit for making the right changes after he got it all wrong at the start. But if he doesn’t learn how to take the initiative and keep it, he will waste the opportunity presented by the talent at his disposal. It was not good to see how despondent Kudus was today and Lops cannot let this kind of thing happen again, 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

He has a decent squad but hasn't got the first fucking clue how to use them. If your first thought when picking the team is having Soucek as a 10 or second striker, you need to fuck off. You can forgive him doing it once, but he's now repeating the same mistakes week after week

I think part of his problem is every time Soucek goes on International duty he scores or is motm... he must be great in training too... hopefully he's seen enough now to realise he doesnt fit anymore...

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Very poor management today. Yes, early days, and definitely early worries about this guy. 

The guy is a complete fraud. They don't call him 'loser Lop' for nothing!

"they"

Its only COYI that refers to him as loser lop.... Im pretty sure he's the fraud as clearly not a West Ham fan... 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

We were a lot better 2nd half but relative to the first half that was not hard.

Loppy has given the old Moyes boys a go and they’ve come up short so should not start messing up squad harmony sulking in the background. Thats the only reason I can think of selecting Soucek and Antonio.

Fulham pressed us very well and are a well organised outfit under Silva. They will be a mid table team imo. I’d have taken a point at HT . 

We still lavk a cutting edge and Kudus was poor today imo. Travelled back from Ghana so posdibly tited etc.  Summerville gives us another outlet and Soler, not quite used to Prem pace hence booking, looks promising. Alvarez and Rodriguez can play too. We were the better team 2nd half so good to get something in the end.

first half was lole Moyed never left but saw tjem « green shoots » 2nd half.  

if only we had got Duran

You know you can edit posts now Alf....

[stubbo-admin]

Very poor management today. Yes, early days, and definitely early worries about this guy. 

The guy is a complete fraud. They don't call him 'loser Lop' for nothing!

"they"

[nychammer]

First half it certainly wasn't better than Moyes and he better had learn from it.

Second half it was. Subs made at HT had an impact for a start. Moyes rarely if ever made an unforced Sub before 70 minutes. Bringing Ings on latterly was recognition that we were starting to flag and chasing the equalizer. We needed a finisher and he can finish IF we can create, which we did when it mattered, but didn't for long periods.

Still a work in progress, and we can only improve.

[Takashi Miike]

He has a decent squad but hasn't got the first fucking clue how to use them. If your first thought when picking the team is having Soucek as a 10 or second striker, you need to fuck off. You can forgive him doing it once, but he's now repeating the same mistakes week after week

[Massive Attack]

So how is this any better than what Moyes served up?

We got battered 5-0 last season in the same fixture and never looked like trying to score, let alone trying to get back in the game. We played poor today but nowhere near as poor as what Moyes served up last season in the same fixture. Another difference is we weren't afraid to play Football from back to front, instead of constantly clearing it up field giving back possession easily with about 30% possession just like last season. 

Was anyone expecting us to be the finished article at the start of the season? It's understandable it's not clicking yet.

1-1 away in a London Derby is definitely an improvement on a 5-0 loss without scoring at all. 

[Manuel]

We didnt lose 5-0 ?

Turn it in, it's fucking shit.

[threesixty]

I feel Loppy doesn’t really understand this league. 
liverpool just lost to Forest. That potentially blows their league chances it’s that competitive in this league. 
you really cannot fuck about in this league. It’s not Spain, it’s not Germany and France. There is not a lot of room to fuck about it. 

It’s not just about getting results, you have to get the fans on board at the same time. When the fans don’t believe in you it doesn’t matter how well your stats are, you’re fucked. 

So Loppy needs to do himself a favour and not make obvious mistakes like this. A banker for us considering how much we’ve spent and then he basically throws the 1st half. A striker we’ve been trying to sell digs us out as well. Which says a lot. I.e. this result was not planned for, he winged it. 

he needs to have a chat with REAL fans. Not journalists. Not the board. Real fans that watch week in and week out. He would learn a lot that would keep him in a job. I just hope this guy is a fast learner. This league chews up the very best managers in the world. Reputation doesn’t mean too much in this league. 

 

[BRANDED]

We didnt lose 5-0 ?

[Manuel]

So how is this any better than what Moyes served up?

[norwaytips]

Well that was a lucky point. They seemed to think it was a training ground run about. 
still, I said I wouldn’t judge management for at least 10 games, but we certainly need to improve on that. 

[Mex Martillo]

Very happy about Ings finally getting a chance in a side that will allow him to score goals. He’s going to play a part this season.

 

 

I was glad to see Ings score as well. We're stuck with him and should use him. He unmistakably knows where the goal is and with a wiff of a chance can score.

[Come On You Irons]

Very poor management today. Yes, early days, and definitely early worries about this guy. 

The guy is a complete fraud. They don't call him 'loser Lop' for nothing!

[BRANDED]

We lost both games and shipped 7 goals last season to Fulham so an improvement. Yeah, we all wanna win 4-0.