Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[Hammer and Pickle]

I’ll put it another way.

Do you want your children to learn something even if you don’t agree with it?

Or do you want your children to become just another version of you?

[F 129 Row66]

Hammer and Pickle » 17 Nov 2024, 12:57

I was told by another poster on here not to argue with you as you are a cսnt. I think your post proves that he was right. Could waste my time pulling it apart but you would be prevented by your bigotry from learning anything from any criticism.

[Nurse Ratched]

The bottom line is if you think you’re a better teacher as a parent, do the job yourself. I am a better teacher of English than most school teachers, which is why my children are native speaker C2 even though one has spent a couple of days in England at the most and the other no days at all. However, I do not expect to teach them maths so I respect their maths teacher’s opinions on maths. As for religious education, I expect them to use their time properly far away from the priest who will tell them God’s law is real while the government’s is just one man’s word against another.

Is that too much waffle for you?

Hmm. Sidestepped my point a bit, but OK. You have been more bonkers on this subject in the past, so if you genuinely believe what you wrote there, then this is progress.

I remember some time ago I mentioned on here that my son and I have decided, depending on the timing of my work/retirement/financial status, that I will homeschool his children when he has them. You jumped on my comment as though you'd been stung and became quite aerated on the subject. You continued to take the odd potshot at me about it off-topic on other threads for several weeks afterwards. I clearly hit a nerve. It seemed to me that you are heavily invested in the idea of the state programming the minds of the young. That parents cannot be trusted and teachers and lecturers always know best and have the 'correct' views.

[Nurse Ratched]

This should have said 'amid your waffle', not admit. Sorry. 

[Hammer and Pickle]

The bottom line is if you think you’re a better teacher as a parent, do the job yourself. I am a better teacher of English than most school teachers, which is why my children are native speaker C2 even though one has spent a couple of days in England at the most and the other no days at all. However, I do not expect to teach them maths so I respect their maths teacher’s opinions on maths. As for religious education, I expect them to use their time properly far away from the priest who will tell them God’s law is real while the government’s is just one man’s word against another.

Is that too much waffle for you?

[Nurse Ratched]

So the bottom line, admit your waffle, is that teachers know best.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Pickle, what if the views and values of the teachers are stupid and/or clash with those of the parents?

Well, it really kind of depends on which views and values, doesn’t it. If the teachers are to integrate a diverse class and make sure they are effective as teachers of groups, then the adult parent thing to do is either demonstrate they are better at integrating diverse classes and being effective teachers of groups or being open to revising their own values as parents. Also, intelligent children will learn things at school that challenge their parents’ world views. This is a good thing in many ways especially as it tests whether parents are really adults or not.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Everything in Pickle's world is schwarz und weiss.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Yeah, that’s right Milly; as soon as you believe it together, it becomes so much easier to treat the useless bullshit like it’s actual information. And you don’t feel so lonely and useless any more.

[Nurse Ratched]

Pickle, what if the views and values of the teachers are stupid and/or clash with those of the parents?

[Leavemyarcelona]

"Certainly, the vast majority will agree discrimination on grounds of class, race, colour, sexual orientation and other ascribed characteristic creates toxic, divisive relations that prevent us from working together and running our companies and institutions properly. That’s because it’s the basic stuff you tend to learn at school if you stay on in education longer than you immediately have to"


Hmm. I think this is one of the fundamental differences between us, Pickle. I believe this stuff should be the responsibility of parents to teach their children, not schools or universities. It's the parents' job to instill values. When parents don't do their job, all sorts of weirdos are happy to step in and fill the gaps with nonsense such as racist Welsh dogs and gender waffle.

 

But I do agree it is above all the parents’ job to teach their children. Then, when they support their children’s education, everyone is more likely to be capable of cooperating with each other. Also, if the parents don’t treat populist fake news as a rallying cry, their children are less likely to accept that hurricane aid is being diverted away from American families to support illegal migrants, or Haitians are eating their pets in Springfield. They may also expect to learn something useful at school as well - you never know. 

Populist fake news? Like what?

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Certainly, the vast majority will agree discrimination on grounds of class, race, colour, sexual orientation and other ascribed characteristic creates toxic, divisive relations that prevent us from working together and running our companies and institutions properly. That’s because it’s the basic stuff you tend to learn at school if you stay on in education longer than you immediately have to"


Hmm. I think this is one of the fundamental differences between us, Pickle. I believe this stuff should be the responsibility of parents to teach their children, not schools or universities. It's the parents' job to instill values. When parents don't do their job, all sorts of weirdos are happy to step in and fill the gaps with nonsense such as racist Welsh dogs and gender waffle.
 

But I do agree it is above all the parents’ job to teach their children. Then, when they support their children’s education, everyone is more likely to be capable of cooperating with each other. Also, if the parents don’t treat populist fake news as a rallying cry, their children are less likely to accept that hurricane aid is being diverted away from American families to support illegal migrants, or Haitians are eating their pets in Springfield. They may also expect to learn something useful at school as well - you never know. 

[Nurse Ratched]

"Certainly, the vast majority will agree discrimination on grounds of class, race, colour, sexual orientation and other ascribed characteristic creates toxic, divisive relations that prevent us from working together and running our companies and institutions properly. That’s because it’s the basic stuff you tend to learn at school if you stay on in education longer than you immediately have to"


Hmm. I think this is one of the fundamental differences between us, Pickle. I believe this stuff should be the responsibility of parents to teach their children, not schools or universities. It's the parents' job to instill values. When parents don't do their job, all sorts of weirdos are happy to step in and fill the gaps with nonsense such as racist Welsh dogs and gender waffle.

[Hammer and Pickle]

I do run a business and I’d employ anyone who can do the required job, even if they happen to be a cultural Marxist. But I definitely wouldn’t employ you largely because you’re clearly a miserable twit burdened with a whole load of half-arsed opinions that are of no use to you or anyone whatsoever - like the 97% of the population bullshit. You couldn’t even say what woke beliefs you’re blithering on about.
Certainly, the vast majority will agree discrimination on grounds of class, race, colour, sexual orientation and other ascribed characteristic creates toxic, divisive relations that prevent us from working together and running our companies and institutions properly. That’s because it’s the basic stuff you tend to learn at school if you stay on in education longer than you immediately have to. Thankfully, many also go into higher education and understand what people doing social science degrees really have to say; at least they don’t just passively hoover up the crap the populist media have to say about anyone with an understanding of how society works. 

[Leavemyarcelona]

It only "annoys the fuck out of certain posters" in your head.

 

Well it has obviously put a bee in your bonet

How so? It's patently obvious that you're looking for any hook you can find to "prove yourself right".

Were you and Hammer & Pointless identical twins separated at birth?

Oh, and it's "Bonnet", not "Bonet", unless you're now trying to instil some Gallic humour into a thread that you are so losing.

I don't need to prove anything. It is there for all to see.

What makes you think that?

Oh, telk someone who gives a flying fuck. Thread i'm losing? says who? I don't view it as a competition  

[Mike Oxsaw]

Does it matter?

it annoys the fuck out of certain posters

It only "annoys the fuck out of certain posters" in your head.

 

Well it has obviously put a bee in your bonet

How so? It's patently obvious that you're looking for any hook you can find to "prove yourself right".

Were you and Hammer & Pointless identical twins separated at birth?

Oh, and it's "Bonnet", not "Bonet", unless you're now trying to instil some Gallic humour into a thread that you are so losing.

[goose]

Bees are probably racist, too. 

Soon.

There's always some abject failure of an individual in a Humanities Department with a PhD deadline.

How about bumblebee jumpers?

[Nurse Ratched]

Bees are probably racist, too. 

Soon.

There's always some abject failure of an individual in a Humanities Department with a PhD deadline.

[Leavemyarcelona]

So, what value does it bring to your posts?

Does it matter?

it annoys the fuck out of certain posters

It only "annoys the fuck out of certain posters" in your head.

 

 

Well it has obviously put a bee in your bonet

[F 129 Row66]

Hammer and Pickle » 17 Nov 2024, 11:15It was probably the most stupid thing I’ve heard since some miserable lesbian with bo on a gender studies course told me.........

Ah, so you were on a gender studies course; that explains your techy response.

The majority of people in this country ( I read somewhere about 97%) do not share the views of the Woke. Most who do pick it up at university from cultural marxist professors, which seems to  me to be a waste of the non woke 97% taxpayer's money. If you ran a businees would you employ somebody with one of these degrees which teach unproved theory as dogma?

 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Who said it is a "offensive" slur?

So, what value does it bring to your posts?

Does it matter?

it annoys the fuck out of certain posters

It only "annoys the fuck out of certain posters" in your head.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Mike Oxsaw » 15 Nov 2024, 09:5

How far up their own fucking self-important woke arses are these people?

These people attend courses at University to learn how to be offended, usually as part of a course in gender studies, black history and such like. These degrees will turn out very useful graduates who will benefit the country and which will be a great return for the taxpayer who funds auch studies. .

Does this sound clever in your head?

 

 

Why on earth would any poster want something put up on here sound "clever"?

[Leavemyarcelona]

If "J1had1" is being used as some sort of offensive slur, when will you be moving on to begin using the even more offensive "Crusader" in the same way?

Who said it is a "offensive" slur?

So, what value does it bring to your posts?

Does it matter?

it annoys the fuck out of certain posters

[Mike Oxsaw]

J1had1 goose will be delighted

If "J1had1" is being used as some sort of offensive slur, when will you be moving on to begin using the even more offensive "Crusader" in the same way?

Who said it is a "offensive" slur?

So, what value does it bring to your posts?

[Nurse Ratched]

In other news, geology is racist now.

Don't forget welsh dogs aswell

I've generally found Welsh dogs to be welcoming and inclusive. Unlike rocks. I was once called a 'cracker bitch' by a lump of amphibolite schist. It wasn't very gneiss.