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Match Centre:



Odds: 
West Ham: 19/5
Draw: 10/3
Bournemouth: 8/11

Pre-Match Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/live/CR-gSQpfTb8

Tactical Preview: 

https://youtu.be/IiKUsXLqtAM 


Watch-along:

https://www.youtube.com/live/BWFxZUjqmsY?feature=shared


Streams:

https://sporthd.live/match/slg-onl-AFC- ... cdzD3QMvZA


https://www.viprow.nu/epl/afc-bournemou ... e-stream-1


(With all live streams be mindful they can carry viruses etc.  Don't click on any ads and use a VPN).
  



Prediction: 3-1 Defeat and the end of Lopetegui.
Lineup:

Fabianski

Mavropanos
Todibo
Kilman
Wan Bissaka

Soler
Soucek
Paqueta

Bowen
Fullkrug
Kudus
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:53 Iraola (who I like a lot) has failed to beat Lopetegui twice now this season and that was without a recognised Left Back in both games - 1 loss, 1 draw.
 
 
Bournemouth's players are shit. We have much better players.

Bournemouth battered us last night.

Swap the managers we win both games comfortably.

We've employed a wrong'un. It's been obvious for months now.
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Sir Alf" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 20:00

I will admit the football is better to watch definitely and what he is trying to improve seems to be the right thing but our play is still literered with too many misplaced passes and unforced errors something that was also a feature of the Moyes era.


 
To put it in to perspective, last season we were 15th for passes, just behind Brentford. This season we are currently 13th, just behind Brentford. Whilst newly promoted and rock bottom Southampton are 5th.

So not a lot has changed.
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Discussions about past players and managers versus current ones are always good entertainment.  Bit like in politics with people nailing their colours to one or the “other” party.  Futile of course because it takes a very honest, humble and confident person to see another’s point of view let alone admit they are wrong. 99% of people are not even willing to be wrong 🤭. All part of our fragile egos and attempts at elevating ourselves as having the best football knowledge and judgement 🤭 

But moving on, Moyes will be remembered as successful in his 4 year spell as he qualified for Europe and won something even if it was the 3rd tier of European competition.  For that I will respect him but at the same time have to say he was found out (tactically) in the league towards the end of his 2nd season and he simply could not do anything about it. There was a little run of fortunate results after Rice left pre xmas 23/24 ( Arsenal and Spuds away prime examples of extreme good fortune )  but we’d stopped progressing and the next half of the season we regressed further. The football was awful even when we won in many games.  His time was up and no shame in that but he left a depleted, aging squad thru his insistence on using only 14 players.  That was the unintended ( you would hope) impact of his squad management methods.

Lopetegui does not inspire a lot of hope tbh.  Think he tried to “run before he could walk” trying to implement tactics and a system he did not have all the players he needed to execute it.  

I will admit the football is better to watch definitely and what he is trying to improve seems to be the right thing but our play is still literered with too many misplaced passes and unforced errors something that was also a feature of the Moyes era.

So I just watched the full replay of last night again. A player I didn’t want starting in centre mid, Alvarez was actually decent on the night surprisingly. Him and Soler and Soucek no complaints on their effort, attitude and passing etc although the lack of legs and pace in that area remains a priority to be addressed. Paqueta was dreadful though. And the only game I think he did ok in this season was in a deeper role at Newcastle. He’s a liability in advanced positions and was last night. But he will have to start next game with Soler out. Just hope its the deeper role but gawd help us.

But continuing the attempt to be positive, overall we looked more organised than we have recently, the players looked like they were playing as a team even if the execution was lacking at times. Coufal did well which was another surprise, AWB continuing to be at HOTY level and Kilman very solid. Stavros is unfortunately another weak point though. He was ok for the most part last night but just one of those players who lack the nous and decision making so always likely to concede a foul, pen, attempt the wrong pass leading to a goal in every game. Hence the free kick for their goal.

We still struggle to beat the opposition press and to many times punt forward aimlessly / wastefully or play passes that are a tad short or behind the man. In other words the crispness and accuracy of passing by a lot of our players still needs to be better even if we eventually address the weaknesses in centre mid, centre forward and to a lesser extent CB.  But, we were better than in most other games this season. Is it progress? It depends if we can start doing it for more than 1 game.  If so yes so Brighton on Sat ( without Soler ) will prove that. We’ve not strung 2 decent back to back games together all season so to do so would be progress without doubt. Im not confident but lets see.

In summary ( an alien concept for me ), we are “half baked”. Trying to do the right things, play with tempo, one and 2 touch to transition from defence to attack and visa versa to handle counters but lacking all the pieces of the puzzle to do it.  Lopetegui? He will carry on and hopefully not oversee us sliding down closer to the relegation zone.  I do not think he will effect a big enough turnaround this season to convince us he is the man to take us forward but would be delighted to be proved wrong.   As I see it, the season is over and mid table mediocrity at best.  Then its back to recruitment and rectifying the errors we made last summer with centre mid and forward areas as the priority.  

 
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stubbo-admin wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 10:15
Match Centre:



Odds: 
West Ham: 19/5
Draw: 10/3
Bournemouth: 8/11

Pre-Match Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/live/CR-gSQpfTb8

Tactical Preview: 

https://youtu.be/IiKUsXLqtAM 


Watch-along:

https://www.youtube.com/live/BWFxZUjqmsY?feature=shared


Streams:

https://sporthd.live/match/slg-onl-AFC- ... cdzD3QMvZA


https://www.viprow.nu/epl/afc-bournemou ... e-stream-1


(With all live streams be mindful they can carry viruses etc.  Don't click on any ads and use a VPN).
  



Prediction: 3-1 Defeat and the end of Lopetegui.
Lineup:

Fabianski

Mavropanos
Todibo
Kilman
Wan Bissaka

Soler
Soucek
Paqueta

Bowen
Fullkrug
Kudus
 
 
Thought we looked solid and in control of the first half and was half-expecting another Newcastle-style result at that point. They worked us out a bit in the second half, but that sometimes happens. Not much we could do about their late equaliser, though. It was a fine strike.

Overall, bit of a mixed bag. But definitely some progress over the past couple of weeks. At least Lopetegui has mostly stopped doing that STUPID thing with the full-backs tucked in next to the CBs. It was mental, and all about creating a mass of bodies in a low-block in front of our goal, and he seems to have used it less frequently - allowing the FBs to play vertically.

I'm still not sold on this fella. But he has definitely adapted a few things.
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Nutsin wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:39
threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:07
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:42
Our shots/shots on target/ to goals ratio has already been put into context.  I'm not sure anyone was disregarding the amount of chances against leicester, but rather pointing out our wastefulness in front of goal being as bad as our defending and a scoreline that reflected it.

There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.
In the league we had maybe one and a half good seasons over the last 5yrs, the tail end of the Covid season and the next one where we finished 7th. We literally dined out on that 7th place for the next 3 yrs! The 7th got us into a Europa league and then a conference league which allowed us to get away with being a terrible PL team with haunting stats year on year. 
Moyes didn’t lose his job because he was good, he lost because his bread and butter, the PL he was terrible considering the money he spent. And his teams were unwatchable for most of the seasons. 

so there is a lot of revisionist stuff going on. We already play better actual football than any Moyes team. And that isn’t to praise Loppy. I don’t mind if he goes at all. But I can’t believe anyone is praising that anti football bollocks we had as some high marker. We got away with it because it was so alien to every other side we played it just baffled them until they figured it out and Moyes couldn’t change his style to counter being found out. 

how can we be a shadow of a team that in one “European glory season” won 2 games in 5 months??
That’s not factually true, We had some great performances under Moyes, Liverpool at home is one that stands out. Not easy to perform in the Prem when you are competing in Europe, especially in the second half of a season when teams are fighting for European spots and fighting to stay up. It could be argued that Moyes was a victim of his own success.
 
 
I know it’s not easy to perform in the prem and a European campaign. But..  and a big but…. we won 2 bloody games in 5 months! We qualified top of our conference group basically playing part time farmers and didn’t have to play til March I think! 

He only stayed in the job because he won the cup, he would have been sacked at any other club. We were in relegation battle that season and finished 14th. With paqueta Bowen and 100m Declan rice!  You couldn’t make it up. 

a lot of smoke and mirrors with that man. 


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I enjoyed the game yesterday. As far as entertainment value goes, it was a good watch. 

I’m alone, probably, but that’s what I want. Trophies and wins are cherries on top of the cake (no pun intended). 
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No of course not. Just putting it into perspective like he's somehow being schooled by Iraola having now twice played us with no recognised Left Back and the oldest player in the Premier League in our Team in both games. 
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Does that mean we can swap league places with them?
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Iraola (who I like a lot) has failed to beat Lopetegui twice now this season and that was without a recognised Left Back in both games - 1 loss, 1 draw.
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The fact is THEY BATTERED US. The sad thing is the team we put out if coached by Iraola would have put 4 or 5 past them. 

Doubling down on your irrational defence of the useless clown doesn't change the fact he's failing.

 
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:32 was jkb unconscious during the previous two and a half seasons? on the whole, it was shit but do carry on with the mindless nostalgia for the most depressing, anti football manager the sport has ever seen
 
 
* sigh * I'm not sticking up for Moyes. I'm not saying his football was good. I wanted him out. I don't want him back.

I never wanted Lopetegui for all the reasons I pointed out that are now becoming a reality. The football is not much better, our defence is crap, we aren't promoting youth, we have spent loads of money and still have one of the oldest squads in the league.

Fair enough if you're all happy and think he's on the right track but it looks like we are going backwards to me.
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threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:07
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:42
threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:27
 
 
Why is it that when we get a result against a team people say they were ordinary or were crap that day? Only when we play them they don’t turn up for some reason? It’s a joke. We make teams look ordinary if we play well. That’s the point right?

we don’t give ourselves enough credit sometimes!

and there’s also the thing of “we should have lost 5-0, look at how many shots that they had, Fab kept us in the game etc”. But when we have record shots against Leicester and lose the game everyone says we were shit and no one cares about the shots we had?

make It make sense people.

football is an easy game if it is wasn’t for the 11 players on the other side stopping you from doing stuff .. 
Our shots/shots on target/ to goals ratio has already been put into context.  I'm not sure anyone was disregarding the amount of chances against leicester, but rather pointing out our wastefulness in front of goal being as bad as our defending and a scoreline that reflected it.

There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.
In the league we had maybe one and a half good seasons over the last 5yrs, the tail end of the Covid season and the next one where we finished 7th. We literally dined out on that 7th place for the next 3 yrs! The 7th got us into a Europa league and then a conference league which allowed us to get away with being a terrible PL team with haunting stats year on year. 
Moyes didn’t lose his job because he was good, he lost because his bread and butter, the PL he was terrible considering the money he spent. And his teams were unwatchable for most of the seasons. 

so there is a lot of revisionist stuff going on. We already play better actual football than any Moyes team. And that isn’t to praise Loppy. I don’t mind if he goes at all. But I can’t believe anyone is praising that anti football bollocks we had as some high marker. We got away with it because it was so alien to every other side we played it just baffled them until they figured it out and Moyes couldn’t change his style to counter being found out. 

how can we be a shadow of a team that in one “European glory season” won 2 games in 5 months??
That’s not factually true, We had some great performances under Moyes, Liverpool at home is one that stands out. Not easy to perform in the Prem when you are competing in Europe, especially in the second half of a season when teams are fighting for European spots and fighting to stay up. It could be argued that Moyes was a victim of his own success.
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, wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:15 jkb wrote what I have quoted below and I wonder what the visceral haters of Moyes think of it?

“There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.”





 
 
 
Thank God for the advent of a very poor quality Cup competition with extremely favourable fixtures straight off the back of the Covid season that had barely any fans in stadiums up and down the Country to call it credible. 
 
Moyes must have counted his lucky stars when that all happened under his fortunate returning watch which masked predominantly poor defensive Football, even though at the time he could call upon quality talents such as Rice, Bowen, Zouma, Emerson, Scamacca, Paqueta, Fabianski. 

If only other managers were so lucky to turn up at the right place, at the right time.
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was jkb unconscious during the previous two and a half seasons? on the whole, it was shit but do carry on with the mindless nostalgia for the most depressing, anti football manager the sport has ever seen
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threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 16:07
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:42
threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:27
 
 
Why is it that when we get a result against a team people say they were ordinary or were crap that day? Only when we play them they don’t turn up for some reason? It’s a joke. We make teams look ordinary if we play well. That’s the point right?

we don’t give ourselves enough credit sometimes!

and there’s also the thing of “we should have lost 5-0, look at how many shots that they had, Fab kept us in the game etc”. But when we have record shots against Leicester and lose the game everyone says we were shit and no one cares about the shots we had?

make It make sense people.

football is an easy game if it is wasn’t for the 11 players on the other side stopping you from doing stuff .. 
Our shots/shots on target/ to goals ratio has already been put into context.  I'm not sure anyone was disregarding the amount of chances against leicester, but rather pointing out our wastefulness in front of goal being as bad as our defending and a scoreline that reflected it.

There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.
In the league we had maybe one and a half good seasons over the last 5yrs, the tail end of the Covid season and the next one where we finished 7th. We literally dined out on that 7th place for the next 3 yrs! The 7th got us into a Europa league and then a conference league which allowed us to get away with being a terrible PL team with haunting stats year on year. 
Moyes didn’t lose his job because he was good, he lost because his bread and butter, the PL he was terrible considering the money he spent. And his teams were unwatchable for most of the seasons. 

so there is a lot of revisionist stuff going on. We already play better actual football than any Moyes team. And that isn’t to praise Loppy. I don’t mind if he goes at all. But I can’t believe anyone is praising that anti football bollocks we had as some high marker. We got away with it because it was so alien to every other side we played it just baffled them until they figured it out and Moyes couldn’t change his style to counter being found out. 

how can we be a shadow of a team that in one “European glory season” won 2 games in 5 months??
You've gone from saying we don't credit the team enough, to claiming revisionist stuff whilst down playing  3 top ten finishes out of 4 seasons in which we had European football and won a European trophy.

I agree with the criticisms of Moyes time, which is why we thought we could do better. Which we clearly are not.
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jkb wrote what I have quoted below and I wonder what the visceral haters of Moyes think of it?

“There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.”

 
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Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:42
threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:27
Any Old Iron" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 14:29 I’m baffled as to how anyone could think that last night was a decent performance. Bournemouth were very ordinary and were there for the taking, unfortunately we were no better. Our passing was shockingly bad with pretty much everybody giving possesion away time after time. Even the usually reliable Bowen was sloppy.
We created hardly any genuine goal chances but got very lucky with a ludicrous VAR call. 
I still don’t see any improvement under Lop but there is one thing he can do to make a difference  - he must never, ever play that useless bubble again. 
 
 
Why is it that when we get a result against a team people say they were ordinary or were crap that day? Only when we play them they don’t turn up for some reason? It’s a joke. We make teams look ordinary if we play well. That’s the point right?

we don’t give ourselves enough credit sometimes!

and there’s also the thing of “we should have lost 5-0, look at how many shots that they had, Fab kept us in the game etc”. But when we have record shots against Leicester and lose the game everyone says we were shit and no one cares about the shots we had?

make It make sense people.

football is an easy game if it is wasn’t for the 11 players on the other side stopping you from doing stuff .. 
Our shots/shots on target/ to goals ratio has already been put into context.  I'm not sure anyone was disregarding the amount of chances against leicester, but rather pointing out our wastefulness in front of goal being as bad as our defending and a scoreline that reflected it.

There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.
In the league we had maybe one and a half good seasons over the last 5yrs, the tail end of the Covid season and the next one where we finished 7th. We literally dined out on that 7th place for the next 3 yrs! The 7th got us into a Europa league and then a conference league which allowed us to get away with being a terrible PL team with haunting stats year on year. 
Moyes didn’t lose his job because he was good, he lost because his bread and butter, the PL he was terrible considering the money he spent. And his teams were unwatchable for most of the seasons. 

so there is a lot of revisionist stuff going on. We already play better actual football than any Moyes team. And that isn’t to praise Loppy. I don’t mind if he goes at all. But I can’t believe anyone is praising that anti football bollocks we had as some high marker. We got away with it because it was so alien to every other side we played it just baffled them until they figured it out and Moyes couldn’t change his style to counter being found out. 

how can we be a shadow of a team that in one “European glory season” won 2 games in 5 months??
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threesixty wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 15:27
Any Old Iron" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 14:29 I’m baffled as to how anyone could think that last night was a decent performance. Bournemouth were very ordinary and were there for the taking, unfortunately we were no better. Our passing was shockingly bad with pretty much everybody giving possesion away time after time. Even the usually reliable Bowen was sloppy.
We created hardly any genuine goal chances but got very lucky with a ludicrous VAR call. 
I still don’t see any improvement under Lop but there is one thing he can do to make a difference  - he must never, ever play that useless bubble again. 
 
 
Why is it that when we get a result against a team people say they were ordinary or were crap that day? Only when we play them they don’t turn up for some reason? It’s a joke. We make teams look ordinary if we play well. That’s the point right?

we don’t give ourselves enough credit sometimes!

and there’s also the thing of “we should have lost 5-0, look at how many shots that they had, Fab kept us in the game etc”. But when we have record shots against Leicester and lose the game everyone says we were shit and no one cares about the shots we had?

make It make sense people.

football is an easy game if it is wasn’t for the 11 players on the other side stopping you from doing stuff .. 
Our shots/shots on target/ to goals ratio has already been put into context.  I'm not sure anyone was disregarding the amount of chances against leicester, but rather pointing out our wastefulness in front of goal being as bad as our defending and a scoreline that reflected it.

There really hasn't been a great deal of credit or hope to offer in most games this season. We are a shadow of the team that was a European side not so long ago, of which our ambitions were to return to this season.
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Any Old Iron" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 14:29 I’m baffled as to how anyone could think that last night was a decent performance. Bournemouth were very ordinary and were there for the taking, unfortunately we were no better. Our passing was shockingly bad with pretty much everybody giving possesion away time after time. Even the usually reliable Bowen was sloppy.
We created hardly any genuine goal chances but got very lucky with a ludicrous VAR call. 
I still don’t see any improvement under Lop but there is one thing he can do to make a difference  - he must never, ever play that useless bubble again. 
 
 
 
 
Why is it that when we get a result against a team people say they were ordinary or were crap that day? Only when we play them they don’t turn up for some reason? It’s a joke. We make teams look ordinary if we play well. That’s the point right?

we don’t give ourselves enough credit sometimes!

and there’s also the thing of “we should have lost 5-0, look at how many shots that they had, Fab kept us in the game etc”. But when we have record shots against Leicester and lose the game everyone says we were shit and no one cares about the shots we had?

make It make sense people.

football is an easy game if it is wasn’t for the 11 players on the other side stopping you from doing stuff .. 
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I thought we were shit when we went 5 at the back.

Bournemouth fans would have felt aggrieved with only getting a point, I reckon.  9 shots on target, compared to 3 from us (which includes the pen).
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As I’ve been saying for some time we need a new starting center half. Stavros needs to be moved on period.

Todibo is better but he’s a tweener, not a real center half. He doesn’t have the size or presence to dominate in the box, ideally someone like Alvin Martin would sort things out at the back. That is obviously our biggest weakness.

To be fair Killman is quality so we’re half way there. 


Defensive Mid needs addressing with someone ideally with some speed and the legs and lungs to get up and down the field.


I will concedeon  Soler is playing better and is starting to settle in, looks like he is beginning to develop into a starter.

Paqueta played better, not as wasteful and better effort, hopefully the penny has dropped and the show boating bollox finally stops, 

Soucek is having a better season so far too, 

So there are some mustard seeds if I’m being positive but until J Lo sorts out our defensive frailties we are gonna lose way more than we win.





Let’s see what happens in Jan, see if 
 
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Interesting discussion point is Soler. Not spectacular in what he does but imho he’s become the player that links everything together and helps keep possession. The “lynchpin” or whatever we want to call it.

Recycles the ball intelligently, good passing accuracy and always on the move.  Simple, neat and tidy but has the awareness, vision and speed of thought to see gaps and passing opportunities and does not take the risky “Hollywood” pass that Paqueta takes which usually end up in us tirning possession over or finding ourselves open to a swift counter.

Real shame he got booked as he’s now unavailable against Brighton which is ominous 🥴

Soon as he went off we lost any control we had of the ball and game.  I’m not suggesting he’s necessarily a long term solution but currently he’s a starter for me everytime.  Not sure why Floppy subbed him unless he was getting tired or at risk of a red maybe? 
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I’m baffled as to how anyone could think that last night was a decent performance. Bournemouth were very ordinary and were there for the taking, unfortunately we were no better. Our passing was shockingly bad with pretty much everybody giving possesion away time after time. Even the usually reliable Bowen was sloppy.
We created hardly any genuine goal chances but got very lucky with a ludicrous VAR call. 
I still don’t see any improvement under Lop but there is one thing he can do to make a difference  - he must never, ever play that useless bubble again. 
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Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 13:50
Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 13:33
Lee Trundle" wrote: 17 Dec 2024, 13:28
It's a shame for you that the STATS don't really match up with what you think.

Countless chances?

Only Everton have created less than us so far this season.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top ... ted?se=719
 
"We are now a possession based, free-flowing attacking Team that creates countless chances."
In reference to the games since Newcastle which I've previously stated. 

Newcastle - 15
Arsenal - 12 
Leicester - 31 
Wolves - 19
​​​​​Bournemouth - 16

93 chances in just the last 5 matches.

Countless chances created now they know what they're doing going forward.
8 goals in our last 7 matches isn’t an improvement on our attacking. With Antonio crocked it’s only going to be tougher.
Not for converting from all the chances created, no. Thats why the January window and/or getting Fullkrug up to speed is so important since his long term injury.
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