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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)
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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season
Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit
We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge
But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit
We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge
But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
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the last two seasons. the second half of the season before was bad too (never invested in january and missed out on CL), people forget about the league games because of europe. why hasn't another club employed him? no one wanted this current bloke, and there's plenty doing great jobs at much smaller clubs but it would cost the current board money to hire them, and money is sadly all they care about. the quality of football is irrelevant, which is why we've had the following under them - grant, allardyce, moyes (x2), pellegrini, lopetegui. you only do that if you despise the fans
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eusebiovic wrote: ↑29 Dec 2024, 18:29Apart from putting together a Leverkusen team on a relative shoestring winning the German double without losing a single match. No mean feat when Bayern are the behemoth nobody can really compete with.
Other than that he must be absolute rubbish.
Maybe he didn't have to tolerate an owner with Napoleon syndrome who likes to dress in Stalin's cast off overcoat to contend with eh?
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Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2024, 19:49Lost twenty league games two years ago conceded two goals a game last year. He was horrendous, get off the drugs you cսnt
What season was that Mike? When we finished 14th or 9th?
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Another poster too stupid to be able to separate wanting Moyes gone with not wanting Lopetegui.
Over a two year period the league form simply wasn’t good enough given the £400m+ spent on the squad. That’s why he was let go.
Nobody wanted Lopetegui, his appointment sits with Sullivan and nobody else.
Do we have to have the Moyes conversation every week?
Over a two year period the league form simply wasn’t good enough given the £400m+ spent on the squad. That’s why he was let go.
Nobody wanted Lopetegui, his appointment sits with Sullivan and nobody else.
Do we have to have the Moyes conversation every week?
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We need a different coach but that doesnt mean we dont need 4 or so new players to fix the holes that still remain.
Kudus probably did enough to interest a few clubs and we have little choice but to sell him as the scale of recruitment is almost as big as last season.
But wait until summer because Sullivan will not sack Lop anytime soon and admit any culpability in the latest mess under his 14 year tenure of ownership
Kudus probably did enough to interest a few clubs and we have little choice but to sell him as the scale of recruitment is almost as big as last season.
But wait until summer because Sullivan will not sack Lop anytime soon and admit any culpability in the latest mess under his 14 year tenure of ownership
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Lost twenty league games two years ago conceded two goals a game last year. He was horrendous, get off the drugs you cսnt
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Was that when he finished 14th?
You clowns that drove out a very good manager and have been left with this shower.
You deserve what you get.
You clowns that drove out a very good manager and have been left with this shower.
You deserve what you get.
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There is a manager available right now who we could get for nothing and who has achieved all this:
Won a record 19 Premier League matches in 2020-21, winning a record ten consecutive matches to reach the knockout stages, and finished the season in sixth place.
Averaged 1.53 points per game in all competitions, which is ahead of the last four full-time managers of West Ham.
Reached the Europa League semi-finals, defeating Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Rapid Vienna, Sevilla, and Olympique Lyonnais.
Led a club to victory in the Europa Conference League in 2022/23, defeating ACF Fiorentina 2-1 in Prague giving a club its first trophy in 43 years.
Managed a Premiership side recently for 198 games, winning 73, giving him a win percentage of 37%. Previous West Ham managers like Pellegrini had a 35% win record, Billic managed 34%, and Allardyce had only 30%. Grant 18%,Zola 27%, Curbishley 37%, Pards 36%, Redknapp 35%, Bonds 30% and Roeder 31%.
Went 17 matches without loss in European fixtures, a record for any English side, beating the 16 set by Don Revie’s Leeds in 1968 and Bill Nicholson’s Tottenham Hotspur in 1972.
He saved a premiership club from relegation in his first tenure and in his second spell with them he finished 6th, 7th, 14th and 9th.
Too good to be true, right?
Won a record 19 Premier League matches in 2020-21, winning a record ten consecutive matches to reach the knockout stages, and finished the season in sixth place.
Averaged 1.53 points per game in all competitions, which is ahead of the last four full-time managers of West Ham.
Reached the Europa League semi-finals, defeating Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Rapid Vienna, Sevilla, and Olympique Lyonnais.
Led a club to victory in the Europa Conference League in 2022/23, defeating ACF Fiorentina 2-1 in Prague giving a club its first trophy in 43 years.
Managed a Premiership side recently for 198 games, winning 73, giving him a win percentage of 37%. Previous West Ham managers like Pellegrini had a 35% win record, Billic managed 34%, and Allardyce had only 30%. Grant 18%,Zola 27%, Curbishley 37%, Pards 36%, Redknapp 35%, Bonds 30% and Roeder 31%.
Went 17 matches without loss in European fixtures, a record for any English side, beating the 16 set by Don Revie’s Leeds in 1968 and Bill Nicholson’s Tottenham Hotspur in 1972.
He saved a premiership club from relegation in his first tenure and in his second spell with them he finished 6th, 7th, 14th and 9th.
Too good to be true, right?
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I said it before, there are six other London clubs in the premier, and I'd swap managers with any of them.
Maybe even Jones from Charlton would do better than this clown
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Maybe even Jones from Charlton would do better than this clown
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I make that 7 times already this season that we’ve conceded 3+ goals.
Absolute shit.
I said on the match thread, game 19 looks no different from game 1. I’m still no closer to working out what he’s trying to implement. We’re piss poor in all thirds of the pitch.
Time to change.
Absolute shit.
I said on the match thread, game 19 looks no different from game 1. I’m still no closer to working out what he’s trying to implement. We’re piss poor in all thirds of the pitch.
Time to change.
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Apart from putting together a Leverkusen team on a relative shoestring winning the German double without losing a single match. No mean feat when Bayern are the behemoth nobody can really compete with.
Other than that he must be absolute rubbish.
Maybe he didn't have to tolerate an owner with Napoleon syndrome who likes to dress in Stalin's cast off overcoat to contend with eh?
Other than that he must be absolute rubbish.
Maybe he didn't have to tolerate an owner with Napoleon syndrome who likes to dress in Stalin's cast off overcoat to contend with eh?
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Bin the cսnt off. Give it to Potter, give it to anyone but get rid of this absolute fuck wit.
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I'm always wary of manager's who wilfully and consistently expect players to perform out of position because they think their tactical masterplan is flawless.
It doesn't matter how much of a shift they put in they simply won't perform to their best in their 2nd best position or even worse.
It's a simple game made complicated by fools - never have we lived in a time when this was more apt a description
It doesn't matter how much of a shift they put in they simply won't perform to their best in their 2nd best position or even worse.
It's a simple game made complicated by fools - never have we lived in a time when this was more apt a description
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19 games in today and with Paqueta playing on the wing and 3 full backs starting, Lopetegui has now officially gone half a season without selecting a single starting line up with every single player playing in their preferred position, despite having the squad to do so
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Latest report from the Mail ( yeah I know its not exactly a paragon of truth ) as follows:
”But according to Daily Mail journalist James Sharpe, Steidten appears to have been cut out of the planning for a new forward”
Regardless of whether you think Steidten got Fullkrug and Guilehme wrong, he got some ok signings in and the fact we needed half a squad to be imported in the first place and its only his second window, its simply wrong and a recipe for disaster to revert back to Sullivan as being Head of Recruitment ?
Sullivan as some of us speculated, never wanted a Tech Director. The appointment was at the request other board members and Sullivan has seized on his first. 2 questionable signings to revert back to his old 30 year old recruitment model. A very unique approach where an owner, with no footballing experience or know how identifies and secures players via a set of favoured agents. Said agents only too pleased to do business and collect their fees.
We repeat ad infinitum that you simply cannot be successful this way. You need to appoint a DOF, devise a strategy, align everyone with it and allow the DOF to implement it which includes handling all recruitment including recruitment of the head coach. The clubs “punchong above their weight” do this but not our owner. Clearly Steidten was never that and only indulged by Sullivan to appease Kretinski and co until he cpuld find the first excuse to “throw him under the bus”.
We are simply “stuck in a rut” while Sullivan has majority ownership and power of veto on all football matters.
”But according to Daily Mail journalist James Sharpe, Steidten appears to have been cut out of the planning for a new forward”
Regardless of whether you think Steidten got Fullkrug and Guilehme wrong, he got some ok signings in and the fact we needed half a squad to be imported in the first place and its only his second window, its simply wrong and a recipe for disaster to revert back to Sullivan as being Head of Recruitment ?
Sullivan as some of us speculated, never wanted a Tech Director. The appointment was at the request other board members and Sullivan has seized on his first. 2 questionable signings to revert back to his old 30 year old recruitment model. A very unique approach where an owner, with no footballing experience or know how identifies and secures players via a set of favoured agents. Said agents only too pleased to do business and collect their fees.
We repeat ad infinitum that you simply cannot be successful this way. You need to appoint a DOF, devise a strategy, align everyone with it and allow the DOF to implement it which includes handling all recruitment including recruitment of the head coach. The clubs “punchong above their weight” do this but not our owner. Clearly Steidten was never that and only indulged by Sullivan to appease Kretinski and co until he cpuld find the first excuse to “throw him under the bus”.
We are simply “stuck in a rut” while Sullivan has majority ownership and power of veto on all football matters.
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Gentile wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 11:28 The German 9 hasn't had anywhere near enough match time for people to make a fair judgement. Those slagging him off are the same clowns that Boo wins.
The manager hasn't lost the players which says something and they are grinding results out for him.whixh bodes well.
The club is run by a a monster munch handed gaul and until that changes our signings will continue to be based on his ghastly sons managerial career on the latest version of Football Manager.
Irons.
‘Monster Munch handed gaul’