Graham Potter

[stubbo]

https://www.whufc.com/news/graham-potte ... head-coach

​​​​​​In the past he's favoured a 3-4-3 formation...hard to see how we can do that currently with only 3 senior CBs, one of whom is injured. He's also played wingers (Solly March as an example) in the wing back roles.

Typically when a 3-4-3 gets announced on a match day the manager is immediately described as being too negative, too cautious etc. I guess it depends on the composition of the 4.

He's given young players chances...hopefully that continues at West Ham.

Welcome Graham.

 

[twoleftfeet]

I agree with that twoleftfeet,  however I belive he deserves more criticism 

He was the new broom, given a huge budget and he failed to address the deficiencies that any lay person could easily identify.

The reason we paid over the odds for Kilman (and as a result had to give him such a long contract to amortise the cost) was because Lopetegui had obviously made him central to his appointment (our resident chairman of the Lopetegui Fan Club won't have the intelligence to acknowledge this). Soler and Rodriguez aren't up to scratch, Cresswell shouldn't have been given another year, and as for the players that were forced upon him, AWB has proved to be arguably the best signing and he refused to integrate Summerville - the same Summerville who's injury though absence is now being bemoaned. Fullkrug he can have... yet I'm not sure how a man who was so principled that he walked out on Wolves on the eve of the season due to broken promises became so easily fucked over here?

 

 

I think we can all agree he was a terrible appointment, one done on the cheap by Sullivan.

His poor grasp of English always bothered me.

I’m glad he’s gone so let’s give Potter time to rebuild.

[Massive Attack]

Agree on Ashworth, bring him in and fuck Steidten off and I'd try and pair him with Mourinho, if he fancied it in the Summer. If we were to go for any former Chelsea manager, it's him who could handle our demands more. Potter isn't the answer to what we want long term. His CV at the top is poor, his Football philosophy is mainly boring and nondescript and he doesn't have a good track record in Cup competitions unless it's with a lower tier Swedish side once. Others are more than welcome to believe he's the answer based on very little evidence but I just think this will be further delay in improving things.



 

Why would anyone respect or take seriously your view on a manager at this level when you were, and continue to be, a fan of Lopetegui??

Oh its ok to talk about Lopetegui again just as long as others bring him up...

Fucking laughable. You seriously think he's some kind of mug clueless Manager don't you? Even though he regularly qualified Sevilla 3 years on the trot in the Champions League, as well as won the Europa League beating top Teams and managers, as well as being extremely successful at all Spain National levels whilst generally playing decent Football until he lost his job on the eve of a World Cup because Real Madrid, of all Teams triggered a release clause in his contract.

[Sir Alf]

I should perhaps say “many were hoping” Potter would quickly transform results and performances

[Sir Alf]

I think if we are honest, most were expecting Potter to very quickly transform our performances and results. The reality is he is a longer term builder who is going to need to start from close to “scratch” based on the squad he inherited. 

With a few fit strikers ( Fullkrug, Summerville) we saw a brief flash of improvement early on. Against Fulham we pressed well collectively a couple of times and had 3 chances and scored them all.  

Against Palace the lack of forwards and poor squad quality options ( devoid of pace and athleticism ) could not even see any flashes of hope. Hence some fans now concluding Potter is not the answer.

He may not be but personally, as with Lopetegui, I will wait at least until he has half a season. A preseason to get ideas across with 5 or so new players ideally but that assumes he can get thru the remaining half season before fan expectations become too much.

Lopetegui got to Xmas, with a preseason, with his choice of at least 3 players ( Kilman, Soler, Rodruiguez) and was unable to get any identity, solidity or coherent style of play and mediocre tp poor results. Nothing seem to improve.

Potter after 3 games? One 20-25 min spell at Villa and a couple of successful pressing moments against Fulham but with 4 first choice players and 3 of them forwards.  Imo far too early to be reaching conclusions

[Manuel]

Agree on Ashworth, bring him in and fuck Steidten off and I'd try and pair him with Mourinho, if he fancied it in the Summer. If we were to go for any former Chelsea manager, it's him who could handle our demands more. Potter isn't the answer to what we want long term. His CV at the top is poor, his Football philosophy is mainly boring and nondescript and he doesn't have a good track record in Cup competitions unless it's with a lower tier Swedish side once. Others are more than welcome to believe he's the answer based on very little evidence but I just think this will be further delay in improving things.

 

Why would anyone respect or take seriously your view on a manager at this level when you were, and continue to be, a fan of Lopetegui??

[onsideman]

I agree with that twoleftfeet,  however I belive he deserves more criticism 

He was the new broom, given a huge budget and he failed to address the deficiencies that any lay person could easily identify.

The reason we paid over the odds for Kilman (and as a result had to give him such a long contract to amortise the cost) was because Lopetegui had obviously made him central to his appointment (our resident chairman of the Lopetegui Fan Club won't have the intelligence to acknowledge this). Soler and Rodriguez aren't up to scratch, Cresswell shouldn't have been given another year, and as for the players that were forced upon him, AWB has proved to be arguably the best signing and he refused to integrate Summerville - the same Summerville who's injury though absence is now being bemoaned. Fullkrug he can have... yet I'm not sure how a man who was so principled that he walked out on Wolves on the eve of the season due to broken promises became so easily fucked over here?

[Massive Attack]

Agree on Ashworth, bring him in and fuck Steidten off and I'd try and pair him with Mourinho, if he fancied it in the Summer. If we were to go for any former Chelsea manager, it's him who could handle our demands more. Potter isn't the answer to what we want long term. His CV at the top is poor, his Football philosophy is mainly boring and nondescript and he doesn't have a good track record in Cup competitions unless it's with a lower tier Swedish side once. Others are more than welcome to believe he's the answer based on very little evidence but I just think this will be further delay in improving things.
 

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Still conceding at a rate of two goals per game.

[twoleftfeet]

I'm sorry he triggers you so much but unfortunately he was our previous manager and he's going to be discussed, just as Moyes was before him. Try not to be so easily triggered in future. 

Lopetegui carries almost as much responsibility as Moyes.

Moyes should have rebuilt the squad after the cup win, he spent that Summer chasing Lingard meanwhile his ageing squad got another year older and another year slower.

Lopetegui came in and just added to the dross with Kilman, Rodriguez and Soler which aged the squad even further.

Potter needs to clear out about 6/7 players, reduce the age of the squad and add some space.

He is up to the job if Sullivan lets him, they also need to bin Steidten and get Ashworth in.

[Massive Attack]

I'm sorry he triggers you so much but unfortunately he was our previous manager and he's going to be discussed, just as Moyes was before him. Try not to be so easily triggered in future. 

[onsideman]

Hopefully now people can appreciate the huge task the last manager had, because the situation wasn't a great deal different. Although at least before we weren't so negative with what we had available and actually has the bollocks to have a go. Now we can't string 2 passes together or hit the target at all in a Home match vs Palace. 

The Squad left behind by Moyes and most of the Recruitment under Steidten has been shocking. 

How predictable. 

You certainly are, Mr Obsessed.. I've previously blamed Lopetegui for signing Freebie Rodriguez, who was all of his own doing and 1 fuck up he has to accept (not that he cost a Fee). 7 year contracts? He doesn't draft player Contracts so what a ridiculous point to raise, like that's his fault. And as bad as Kilman has been, is it any wonder when he's constantly having to play alongside the Greek mess alongside him?? Yes he hasn't covered himself in glory either and has been at fault many times but it isn't a real surprise when he's partnered with that Greek tragedy whilst Todibo continues to be a walking A & E patient whenever he plays or doesn't. And both Steidtens picks.

Back to my initial point, the majority of the Squad is a combination of Moyes shit and Steidten expensive poor signings that are simply not good enough bar some gems and Lopetegui had the least amount of input in to the construction of it all by a distance. If you ain't happy with the general make-up of the Squad, mostly blame Moyes, Steidten and Sullivan before you can then have a go at the likes of Lopetegui's Free Transfer Rodriguez and Kilman..

The only obsession on here is your undying love of Flopetegui. Give it a rest. He's gone

[Massive Attack]

He went with a negative line up against Fulham. 

What options did he have that would have made us that much better? Not going to dig him out for not starting Ings or the young Brazilian who are not good enough. 

Hes inherited a mess. 

until then it’s going to be shit as half the squad should not even play for the club. 

any frustration should be towards those above Potter who have been failing in the clubs recruitment. Not Potter himself. 

Hopefully now people can appreciate the huge task the last manager had, because the situation wasn't a great deal different. Although at least before we weren't so negative with what we had available and actually has the bollocks to have a go. Now we can't string 2 passes together or hit the target at all in a Home match vs Palace. 

The Squad left behind by Moyes and most of the Recruitment under Steidten has been shocking. 

How predictable. 

You certainly are, Mr Obsessed.. I've previously blamed Lopetegui for signing Freebie Rodriguez, who was all of his own doing and 1 fuck up he has to accept (not that he cost a Fee). 7 year contracts? He doesn't draft player Contracts so what a ridiculous point to raise, like that's his fault. And as bad as Kilman has been, is it any wonder when he's constantly having to play alongside the Greek mess alongside him?? Yes he hasn't covered himself in glory either and has been at fault many times but it isn't a real surprise when he's partnered with that Greek tragedy whilst Todibo continues to be a walking A & E patient whenever he plays or doesn't. And both Steidtens picks.

Back to my initial point, the majority of the Squad is a combination of Moyes shit and Steidten expensive poor signings that are simply not good enough bar some gems and Lopetegui had the least amount of input in to the construction of it all by a distance. If you ain't happy with the general make-up of the Squad, mostly blame Moyes, Steidten and Sullivan before you can then have a go at the likes of Lopetegui's Free Transfer Rodriguez and Kilman..

[onsideman]

 

Who made you judge and jury?? The old 'what do you expect' crap. Bore off. What I don't expect is an old man at the back who was finished 3 years ago, a fraudster in midfield, zero shots on target and passing the ball backwards all fucking game against Crystal 'fucking' Palace in front of 60,000 fans freezing their nuts off. That alright with you?

He went with a negative line up against Fulham. 

What options did he have that would have made us that much better? Not going to dig him out for not starting Ings or the young Brazilian who are not good enough. 

Hes inherited a mess. 

until then it’s going to be shit as half the squad should not even play for the club. 

any frustration should be towards those above Potter who have been failing in the clubs recruitment. Not Potter himself. 

Hopefully now people can appreciate the huge task the last manager had, because the situation wasn't a great deal different. Although at least before we weren't so negative with what we had available and actually has the bollocks to have a go. Now we can't string 2 passes together or hit the target at all in a Home match vs Palace. 

The Squad left behind by Moyes and most of the Recruitment under Steidten has been shocking. 

How predictable. As if Lopetegui isn't responsible for bringing in the worst Argentinian ever to win a world cup winners medal, a once decent midfielder who now flatters to deceive and a carthorse of a defender who we now have for 7 years and who swallowed a third of our transfer budget and for delivering plenty of abject shit himself when he had a full squad from which to select.

Moyes' extra year held us back. Lopetegui's 5 months has set us back

[Russ of the BML]

It is very clear to me now that we are a relegation team. And everything that Potter does now must be with relegation in mind. We must win our home games. Yesterday was a disgrace - But to me not unexpected. You can't have such a badly assembled squad and then suffer all those injuries without it having a huge impact. Yesterday was a culmination of the mess. A performance that you would find hard to even score 1/10. 

Potter needs to go into relegation mode.

[Manuel]

 

Who made you judge and jury?? The old 'what do you expect' crap. Bore off. What I don't expect is an old man at the back who was finished 3 years ago, a fraudster in midfield, zero shots on target and passing the ball backwards all fucking game against Crystal 'fucking' Palace in front of 60,000 fans freezing their nuts off. That alright with you?

He went with a negative line up against Fulham. 

What options did he have that would have made us that much better? Not going to dig him out for not starting Ings or the young Brazilian who are not good enough. 

Hes inherited a mess. 

until then it’s going to be shit as half the squad should not even play for the club. 

any frustration should be towards those above Potter who have been failing in the clubs recruitment. Not Potter himself. 

Hopefully now people can appreciate the huge task the last manager had, because the situation wasn't a great deal different. Although at least before we weren't so negative with what we had available and actually has the bollocks to have a go. Now we can't string 2 passes together or hit the target at all in a Home match vs Palace. 

The Squad left behind by Moyes and most of the Recruitment under Steidten has been shocking. 

Give it up, your mate has gone and rightly so.

[Massive Attack]

Surprised at the Stick he’s getting already on the Fulham thread.

what are people honestly expecting with what he has available?

don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager of ours have such a lack of options at his disposal. 

Hes inherited a mess and this is going to take time. 

 

Who made you judge and jury?? The old 'what do you expect' crap. Bore off. What I don't expect is an old man at the back who was finished 3 years ago, a fraudster in midfield, zero shots on target and passing the ball backwards all fucking game against Crystal 'fucking' Palace in front of 60,000 fans freezing their nuts off. That alright with you?

He went with a negative line up against Fulham. 

What options did he have that would have made us that much better? Not going to dig him out for not starting Ings or the young Brazilian who are not good enough. 

Hes inherited a mess. 

until then it’s going to be shit as half the squad should not even play for the club. 

any frustration should be towards those above Potter who have been failing in the clubs recruitment. Not Potter himself. 

Hopefully now people can appreciate the huge task the last manager had, because the situation wasn't a great deal different. Although at least before we weren't so negative with what we had available and actually has the bollocks to have a go. Now we can't string 2 passes together or hit the target at all in a Home match vs Palace. 

The Squad left behind by Moyes and most of the Recruitment under Steidten has been shocking. 

[dealcanvey]

Surprised at the Stick he’s getting already on the Fulham thread.

what are people honestly expecting with what he has available?

don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager of ours have such a lack of options at his disposal. 

Hes inherited a mess and this is going to take time. 

 

Who made you judge and jury?? The old 'what do you expect' crap. Bore off. What I don't expect is an old man at the back who was finished 3 years ago, a fraudster in midfield, zero shots on target and passing the ball backwards all fucking game against Crystal 'fucking' Palace in front of 60,000 fans freezing their nuts off. That alright with you?

He went with a negative line up against Fulham. We didn’t play particularly well but got the win. I’m sure he was hoping we would get away with it again. We didn’t.

What options did he have that would have made us that much better? Not going to dig him out for not starting Ings or the young Brazilian who are not good enough. 

Hes inherited a mess. Once Bowen and Summerville come back the team will pick itself and the performances will improve. 

until then it’s going to be shit as half the squad should not even play for the club. 

any frustration should be towards those above Potter who have been failing in the clubs recruitment. Not Potter himself. 

[Takashi Miike]

 

Ferret is one of the best posters on this site and I know you have a problem with Me.

that said it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that you and Takashi Mike don’t get on as you are the 2 biggest cunts on here !

 

[Takashi Miike]

I want to scream, what is wrong with you cunts? Has Ladysmith and Mad Ferret taken over your minds? Has Takashi Mike fucked with you all?

Potter has been in charge 8 days, in that time he has had 3 games and about 2 days training with the depleted squad.

A squad he inherited, a squad that has players in that he certainly wouldn't have bought, a squad that is old and slow YET still you think he is to blame?

This guy will rebuild us and make us fitter and more competitive, he will bring through the youth and not keep reverting to the deadwood.

To be criticising him after 3 games is insane and I genuinely think you have all been possessed by something.

To those criticising Potter I say, fuck off and come back in a years time you pathetic fucking dickweeds or just join the spurs site and annoy them.

scream what, you oddball cսnt? if he picks eight defensive players against an inferior club at home, he'll get criticism. you clearly didn't watch the fucking game, much like you didn't when your jock hero was sticking ten men behind the ball every week

[Sydney_Iron]

 

Ferret is one of the best posters on this site and I know you have a problem with Me.

that said it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that you and Takashi Mike don’t get on as you are the 2 biggest cunts on here !

 

 

[Mad Ferret]

I want to scream, what is wrong with you cunts? Has Ladysmith and Mad Ferret taken over your minds? Has Takashi Mike fucked with you all?

Potter has been in charge 8 days, in that time he has had 3 games and about 2 days training with the depleted squad.

A squad he inherited, a squad that has players in that he certainly wouldn't have bought, a squad that is old and slow YET still you think he is to blame?

This guy will rebuild us and make us fitter and more competitive, he will bring through the youth and not keep reverting to the deadwood.

To be criticising him after 3 games is insane and I genuinely think you have all been possessed by something.

To those criticising Potter I say, fuck off and come back in a years time you pathetic fucking dickweeds or just join the spurs site and annoy them.

Calm down dear.

[Nutsin]

Today Potter showed us all how little he knows the squad.
Hopefully a lesson learned.

Let’s see how he does with team selection in the coming weeks. Hopefully he figures a few things out before the close of the Jan window. 

 

[BRANDED]

Fucking useless cսnt.

”We sre so back innit”

[Ladysmith]

I want to scream, what is wrong with you cunts? Has Ladysmith and Mad Ferret taken over your minds? Has Takashi Mike fucked with you all?

Potter has been in charge 8 days, in that time he has had 3 games and about 2 days training with the depleted squad.

A squad he inherited, a squad that has players in that he certainly wouldn't have bought, a squad that is old and slow YET still you think he is to blame?

This guy will rebuild us and make us fitter and more competitive, he will bring through the youth and not keep reverting to the deadwood.

To be criticising him after 3 games is insane and I genuinely think you have all been possessed by something.

To those criticising Potter I say, fuck off and come back in a years time you pathetic fucking dickweeds or just join the spurs site and annoy them.

 

 

Ferret is one of the best posters on this site and I know you have a problem with Me.

that said it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that you and Takashi Mike don’t get on as you are the 2 biggest cunts on here !

[twoleftfeet]

I want to scream, what is wrong with you cunts? Has Ladysmith and Mad Ferret taken over your minds? Has Takashi Mike fucked with you all?

Potter has been in charge 8 days, in that time he has had 3 games and about 2 days training with the depleted squad.

A squad he inherited, a squad that has players in that he certainly wouldn't have bought, a squad that is old and slow YET still you think he is to blame?

This guy will rebuild us and make us fitter and more competitive, he will bring through the youth and not keep reverting to the deadwood.

To be criticising him after 3 games is insane and I genuinely think you have all been possessed by something.

To those criticising Potter I say, fuck off and come back in a years time you pathetic fucking dickweeds or just join the spurs site and annoy them.