The stadium

[Kevinhammer]

I am a big hammer from Norway, been to the new stadium a couple of times. Haven't been to Boleyn, (only watched every documentary about it) but just can't help the bitterness of missing the ground and the old West Ham feeling.
What do you guys actually think of the stadium and the atmosphere.
Do you guys think we will move away from London Stadium anytime soon? and actually get our own stadium.
Anyways good game yesterday, we really looked like an football team today, give him 10 years!
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I suspect that the only way things will change is if a fault appears/is declared in the structure that renders it unsafe.

Mind you, if that occurs they're more likely to redefine the legal definition of "safe" than lose their "legacy".

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

For ten years I’ve been reading this sort of crap on various fan sites. There is absolutely no chance of the athletics bowl ever being converted into something even vaguely resembling a football stadium. Firstly the upper tier is fixed and immoveable, while the lower tier is as close to the pitch as it can get. 
The only way you could improve it would be by knocking half of it down and rebuilding, therefore allowing the pitch to be moved and therefore much closer to all four sides. However it’s obvious that the cost of doing this would be huge so it would probably be cheaper to build a new stadium on a fresh site somewhere.
The truth is that because the club ended up doing the deal of all deals with the LLDC they’re very happy with the current arrangement where they have the 2nd biggest capacity club stadium in England for virtually peanuts.  There’s no incentive for the owners to change things, so we’re stuck with it for a very long time.

 

 

This all true.
Had a discussion with the sadly missed Gavros shortly before he left us.
The LS is almost impossible to improve as a FOOTBALL stadium, unless an obscene amount of money is ploughed into it. The roof alone would probably require extension to comply with UEFA rules should an additional tier somehow be shoe-horned in at pitch level.
Would probably be more cost effective to level it and build again.

 

 

[Any Old Iron]

 

Once Sullivan sells up and we can get shot of this athletics legacy nonense, then the ground can be developed into a football stadium (getting rid of the running track and putting in more seating where it used to be).  No need to leave or build a new stadium if the London Stadium can be changed in the future.

For ten years I’ve been reading this sort of crap on various fan sites. There is absolutely no chance of the athletics bowl ever being converted into something even vaguely resembling a football stadium. Firstly the upper tier is fixed and immoveable, while the lower tier is as close to the pitch as it can get. 
The only way you could improve it would be by knocking half of it down and rebuilding, therefore allowing the pitch to be moved and therefore much closer to all four sides. However it’s obvious that the cost of doing this would be huge so it would probably be cheaper to build a new stadium on a fresh site somewhere.
The truth is that because the club ended up doing the deal of all deals with the LLDC they’re very happy with the current arrangement where they have the 2nd biggest capacity club stadium in England for virtually peanuts.  There’s no incentive for the owners to change things, so we’re stuck with it for a very long time.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

The land it's on is worth an estimated £3 billion . Forget the stadium.  Could easily build another 60 000 plus stadium on that footprint and have more than enough space to build hotels casino and retail spaces.On it . 

The land may be worth £3b but you'd have to take into account demolition costs and 90 years of future losses at £15m per year.

Nobody would pay much for a site with a fucking great stadium in the middle that they can't redevelop for 90 years.

[goose]

They should give us £1.5bn to fuck off. Then they can sell the land and we can go an build a new stadium elsewhere.

[scott_d]

We shouldn't need to pay for it.

Once again we would be saving the government and the LLDC (or new owners) by coming to the rescue for their money pit.  Saving them effectively 1.5bn over the remaining 90+ years we'd be doing them a massive favour.

But there will definitely be a condition that we can't just knock it down, sell up and rebuild elsewhere for a whopping profit. 

[northbankfrank]

We'd all love to see a 60,000+ capacity new Upton Park style stadium complete with 25,000 standing behind the goals.  Sadly, it's hard to see how this could ever happen.  If Kretinsky or a similar investor buys out the dwarf or takes over on his demise, what would be their incentive to redevelop the stadium or build new elsewhere?  We might not like our current home but every seat gets sold, the rental is next to nothing and the owners have no exposure to risk of future maintenance and repair costs.  Any decisions would be based purely on commercial considerations rather than supporters preference.

[Pshyco scored all 4]

The land it's on is worth an estimated £3 billion . Forget the stadium.  Could easily build another 60 000 plus stadium on that footprint and have more than enough space to build hotels casino and retail spaces.On it . 

[Lee Trundle]

Why on earth would we pay anything more than £1 for it?

It's a huge drain on London, they'd be desperate to get rid of it.

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Eventually the club will own the stadium. And unhappily for the dwarf and Brady. it won't just be handed to them  for zilch like they were telling people like whetstone. 
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[scott_d]

I'm a big athletics fan too, and I've been there for a couple of the legacy events they've put on and they are great if you like athletics.

But it does not justify the costs involved in converting the stadium once a year.

If they really want a legacy, they could put that money into Athletics in other ways, especially as British Athletics and England Atheltics are making cuts all over the place.

 

[Pub Bigot]

I am a big hammer from Norway, been to the new stadium a couple of times. Haven't been to Boleyn, (only watched every documentary about it) but just can't help the bitterness of missing the ground and the old West Ham feeling.
What do you guys actually think of the stadium and the atmosphere.
Do you guys think we will move away from London Stadium anytime soon? and actually get our own stadium.
Anyways good game yesterday, we really looked like an football team today, give him 10 years!


 

Once Sullivan sells up and we can get shot of this athletics legacy nonense, then the ground can be developed into a football stadium (getting rid of the running track and putting in more seating where it used to be).  No need to leave or build a new stadium if the London Stadium can be changed in the future.

That's optimistic, mate. 

Sullivan won't sell his controlling share until the government buckle and either offer the stadium at a reduced rate, or give it to the club. 

And why would new owners change the ground? Man United have money coming out of their arsehole and they won't even fix a leaky roof. 

[factory seconds]

judging the suitability of the stadium based on nights like seville is like thinking you've got a perfectly good mattress, despite waking up every morning covered in bed bug bites with crippling sciatica, all because you got an amazing blow job on it back in the 90s.

[Fat, Bald n 50]

I am a big hammer from Norway, been to the new stadium a couple of times. Haven't been to Boleyn, (only watched every documentary about it) but just can't help the bitterness of missing the ground and the old West Ham feeling.
What do you guys actually think of the stadium and the atmosphere.
Do you guys think we will move away from London Stadium anytime soon? and actually get our own stadium.
Anyways good game yesterday, we really looked like an football team today, give him 10 years!

 

Once Sullivan sells up and we can get shot of this athletics legacy nonense, then the ground can be developed into a football stadium (getting rid of the running track and putting in more seating where it used to be).  No need to leave or build a new stadium if the London Stadium can be changed in the future.

[Mad Ferret]

Welcome back, Manuel.

[Manuel]

People have short memories how shit the atmosphere had become at The Boleyn in it's last years.  

Miss those days of being able to give the Linos/opposition players proper stick close up pre-Upton Park redevelopment. 

That is what I noticed the most last month, I was about 10 rows back and it's really difficult to abuse the lino or any players, it's just not the same. One fella was trying his hardest with vitriol towards the lino but he was wasting his time.

[Massive Attack]

People have short memories how shit the atmosphere had become at The Boleyn in it's last years.  

That's why it was in real need to finally redevelop the chicken run so to enclose it how it was always meant to be. Although the distance between the touchline and the Stands is even greater now than it was at the Boleyn Ground. Miss those days of being able to give the Linos/opposition players proper stick close up pre-Upton Park redevelopment. 

[scott_d]

There's been a few occasions where the atmosphere has been ELECTRIC.

It completely down to the fans if the atmosphere is good or not.  The way the stadium is built (not ours) can assist, but it has to be the supporters that create it.

All true, but only get going for special occasions. Chelsea in the League Cup, first London derby at the bowl often gets overlooked. 

Yep, that was the first game that you thought it could work.
Atmosphere was great, standing all game, and the win helped.

[Manuel]

''There's not much hope to bring back the soul of the club as cockney culture has been erased from East End of London''


Definitely agree with that, it's a real shame but people are just not built/wired like that any longer.

[Pub Bigot]

I agree, Swiss, but it's much worse at the London Stadium. 

There's a wider problem in English football that needs to be addressed, because it's sterile nationwide apart from the odd game. 

[Swiss.]

People have short memories how shit the atmosphere had become at The Boleyn in it's last years.  

[Pub Bigot]

 

I love that pub, about 15 years ago I was in there all the time. Used to have some right characters in there.

It's a bit of a posho pub with prices to match nowadays. It's decent though, so does me while I'm loitering in the area. 

I had heard that it had been renovated and revamped, thats a shame. The Morgan Arms down the road was always the fancy one, the Coborn was for locals.

They're both posho types, though I don't like the Morgan. 

If you want a local pub in the area, you've got the Little Driver, Wentworth Arms or the Bankcroft Arms. All good pubs, all full of locals. 

[Dick Shaftsbury]

Yeah. My family live locally, so if I’m not heading back to Euston to get back to Liverpool I go in there. 

 

I love that pub, about 15 years ago I was in there all the time. Used to have some right characters in there.

It's a bit of a posho pub with prices to match nowadays. It's decent though, so does me while I'm loitering in the area. 

I had heard that it had been renovated and revamped, thats a shame. The Morgan Arms down the road was always the fancy one, the Coborn was for locals.

[Pub Bigot]

There's not much hope to bring back the soul of the club as cockney culture has been erased from East End of London and what is left is fossilised in the Essex diaspora. The tourists will eventually suffocate what's left. Just enjoy what we still have while it lasts.

 

I couldn't disagree more. Even if the locals, myself included no longer live in the area, the diaspora as your put it can carry the torch. 

There are too many tourists at the ground, but the vast majority are still West Ham. The big issue is the clubs seems to work against the supporters creating at atmosphere. Again, the blame should be firmly pointed at the midget cսnt. 

Before and after games there should be people crowding around the directors box and making him well aware he's not wanted and not welcome. 

[Pub Bigot]

The Coborn Arms in Mile End?

Yeah. My family live locally, so if I’m not heading back to Euston to get back to Liverpool I go in there. 

 

I love that pub, about 15 years ago I was in there all the time. Used to have some right characters in there.

It's a bit of a posho pub with prices to match nowadays. It's decent though, so does me while I'm loitering in the area.