Sullivan out!

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

[Mad Ferret]

they? does the dwarf now own Sky Sports too?

Sullivan obvs would’ve suggested that Jr presents.

[Takashi Miike]

they? does the dwarf now own Sky Sports too?

[Mad Ferret]

How has Jr got this gig? Baffling. And in this episode, should the son of the owner really be interviewing the vice chair? Conflict of interest for a balanced view much? Although hopefully he's learning a bit on how TO run a football club by speaking to people at Brighton etc in other episodes and taking some of it in rather than just listening to his old man's example on how NOT to.

 

 

Did you watch the docuseries about his involvement with the ladies side?

He comes across as a very bright and endearing individual, who seems very affable indeed.

No surprise they have him doing more on camera.

[Swiss.]

Hard to sell a club when outside interests rely on you owning it. 

I can't honestly see him selling it. Not while he's breathing. 

Exactly and when he pegs it he will pass it down to Jr. 

[Council Scum]

Hard to sell a club when outside interests rely on you owning it. 

I can't honestly see him selling it. Not while he's breathing. 

[El Scorchio]

How has Jr got this gig? Baffling. And in this episode, should the son of the owner really be interviewing the vice chair? Conflict of interest for a balanced view much?

It's laughable to be interviewed by Sky from your bosses kid.

Exactly. He's hardly going to ask any searching questions which might make his own father's club look shoddily run now is he? Jr probably got a lecture on what to ask and not to ask over breakfast or in the boardroom immediately before filming. 

[Lee Trundle]

How has Jr got this gig? Baffling. And in this episode, should the son of the owner really be interviewing the vice chair? Conflict of interest for a balanced view much?

It's laughable to be interviewed by Sky from your bosses kid.

People used to moan and moan about Sullivan being in the press.  I'd love for some real journalist to interview him now, with all what's gone on, and ask him questions like was it his agent mate that suggested Lopetegui was a good appointment?

[El Scorchio]

How has Jr got this gig? Baffling. And in this episode, should the son of the owner really be interviewing the vice chair? Conflict of interest for a balanced view much? Although hopefully he's learning a bit on how TO run a football club by speaking to people at Brighton etc in other episodes and taking some of it in rather than just listening to his old man's example on how NOT to.

[Sir Alf]

Assume its in part to prepare for us not spending much in summer?

[Takashi Miike]

spin machine, in full flow

[simons]

I think CS is right, he’s going nowhere. And when he’s gone, the boy will be heavily involved in some guise. Just rinse and repeat. We are also stuck with their ‘legacy’ that is the LS. Well in our lifetimes anyway. 


 

[goose]

Goose . Kretinskys company EPH is one of the biggest gas suppliers throughout central and eastern Europe  and own most of the trunkline pipeline that runs under Ukraine.  

DK’s wealth increased massively during this period, largely due to his investments in gas & coal.

https://www.banktrack.org/article/danie ... ing_s_help

[John Drake]

At the time of Kretinki's investment there was a put and call option included which allowed Kretinski to buy Gold and Sullivan's remaining shares at an agreed fixed price. It was never announced how long the option would stay in place for.  

[Pshyco scored all 4]

38 % stake . 

[Pshyco scored all 4]

The post on kumb seems to have been pulled. It was on the gold and Sullivan thread on there . It was £282m for dwarfs 82 % stake . Obviously I'm no ITK . But the truth is kretinsky had a buy out clause maybe he still has . To buy dwarfs shares which blows a hole straight through Sullivans passing it down to his kids nonsense. 

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Goose . Kretinskys company EPH is one of the biggest gas suppliers throughout central and eastern Europe  and own most of the trunkline pipeline that runs under Ukraine.  

[El Scorchio]

He will sell if the right offer comes along, just like anyone. Trouble is that his valuation of the club is unrealistic. Remember that he has to be seen to WIN every deal, so especially one as big as this, he's going to have to think he absolutely pulled down the pants of any buyer, which means it's never going to happen because no-one is going to be stupid enough to agree to his price/terms.

Besides which this is a nice little earner for him the the meantime and a good little ego boost to be the owner of a Premier League football club.

Really the only hope is that someone buys both Kretinsky and Gold's shares and pushes him out, but I don;t know if Sullivan as the major shareholder would get to set the price of what their portions are worth or if it can go (both literally and figuaratively speaking) over his head.

I feel Kretinsky would have made a move by now if he was ever going to. Likewise the Golds would have sold if they were going to.

[Council Scum]

Sullivan will sell up . He was selling his shares to kretinsky in 2022 . DK even paid him £18 m  compensation for not going through with it . And that was in all likelihood due to the war in Ukraine. I'm surprised people haven't picked up on it . 

He ain't selling and won't be selling, not the whole time he's breathing. 

[goose]

Why would Kretinsky pay Sullivan £18m to not go through with the sale of his shares to him?

That doesn't make any sense.

I think he paid £18m for the privilege of the option on Sullivan’s shares.
This was the dispute with the stadium owners, they believed they were owed a share of that £18m.

[Lee Trundle]

Why would Kretinsky pay Sullivan £18m to not go through with the sale of his shares to him?

That doesn't make any sense.

[goose]

Sullivan will sell up . He was selling his shares to kretinsky in 2022 . DK even paid him £18 m  compensation for not going through with it . And that was in all likelihood due to the war in Ukraine. I'm surprised people haven't picked up on it . 

I know it’s not your info, but what would the war in Ukraine have to do with DK and him buying the club?

I thought the £18m was for the privilege of having the option on Sullivan’s shares? I think I read that the option has now expired.

DK is considerably richer now so if he wanted to buy the club he would.

[Manuel]

Sullivan will sell up . He was selling his shares to kretinsky in 2022 . DK even paid him £18 m  compensation for not going through with it . And that was in all likelihood due to the war in Ukraine. I'm surprised people haven't picked up on it . 

Interesting that, if true, although I don't want DK as our owner (main shareholder).

[fraser]

Moyes should have been sacked or resigned after Prague, him staying really made no sense. Our name was in the spotlight we had Europe.. 

Was the perfect time, the league form had been horrendous... 

[Takashi Miike]

[scott_d]

For me Sullivan and the board have made three crucial mistakes a the turn of these year's: 

1. 2011 Grant - Totally useless and out of his depth. Should have sacked him in Jan. 
2. 2015 Allardyce - A good postion as of 31/12/14 but as no contract offer made for him at the end of the season we plummeted down the table. Shoud have got rid in Jan as were safe. 
3. 2024 Moyes - Again good position in the league. The instance Moyes refused to sign the new contract they should have fired him in Jan. Again plummeted down the table. Sound familiar? 

 

 

I disagree that the timing of those sackings for Allardyce and Moyes were even an issue?

We replaced Allardyce with Bilic who arguably gave us as good a send-off at Upton Park as we could have hoped for and sent us into the new stadium with potential for European Football.  It might now have worked out in the end, but that was nothing to do with not sacking Allardyce in time.

As for Moyes, whilst I wouldn't have been against sacking him in January, not sure it made any difference.  It was more the way that Sulli underminded Moyes after everything he'd done and ultimately who he then brought in to replace him.  They had from January to find the right replacement, whether they'd sacked Moyes or not, and they failed to find the right man.