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[Come On You Irons]

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[riosleftsock]

I missed the replies as I don't look on here as much any more.

Male circumcision was originally carried out as an essential hygiene practice in hot countries that had poor or no sanitation systems where fresh water was anything but.  It has its medical uses in a small number of cases today but a case could be made for banning it outside of medical necessity.  It has zero effect on the male's ability to enjoy sex in later life.

Female circumcision is an extremely misogynistic, barbaric practice that has high injury rates compared to male circumcision and is intended to deprive the female of any future sexual pleasure and ensure that for her, sex is purely an act of procreation.  I have not seen a single medical case made for female circumcision, neither have I heard of it being mentioned in the Torah, Talmud, Bible or Koran. It should be banned outright and lengthy prison sentences for those who practise it or allow it to be carried out, followed by permanent deportation for those involved and all family members.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

I do not subscribe to the view that because female circumcision is worse than male circumcision, this makes male circumcision ok. It's like saying rape is ok because murder is worse.

We no longer live in deserts with no access to water to wash in. Male circumcision is no longer required. To continue to practise the butchery is disgusting. 

Nurse, if you step down from your high horse for a moment, have another read of what I wrote, I have not made the case in favour of either circumcision, just explained the differences as somebody asked and why circumcision is practised.

[Trilby55]

Branded , I’m pissed off it’s not been implemented. 

[BRANDED]

Anyone still pissed off about Brexit?

[Lee Trundle]

Kick in the balls for Trump as results from the Greenland election give an overwhelmingly fuck off to Trump’s desire to take over! So unless he decides to invade it looks a non starter

I guess he'll ramp up the Panama stuff now

Why would he do that?

He's already got what he wanted there, and you didn't even know about it.

[Hammer I am]

Kick in the balls for Trump as results from the Greenland election give an overwhelmingly fuck off to Trump’s desire to take over! So unless he decides to invade it looks a non starter

I guess he'll ramp up the Panama stuff now

[Sydney_Iron]

Kick in the balls for Trump as results from the Greenland election give an overwhelmingly fuck off to Trump’s desire to take over! So unless he decides to invade it looks a non starter

[Manuel]

Yep, two good posts. You're right, they were so high anyway a drop back is no biggie and maybe even a good thing. 'Uncertainty' will only pull the markets back so far, unlike any real life events like banks or housing markets crashing and any war in the west. I say in the west as in recent years the markets don't react at all to any mid-east tensions and barely dropped when Putin woke up one morning and decided to invade the Ukraine.

I note there is a big lack of IPOs in recent times.

[Sydney_Iron]

The markets hate uncertainty more than anything, doesn't help that Trump keeps flip flopping, just today he went back on increasing some of the Tariffs on Canada after Ontario withdrew their counter threat to increase theirs. Some also fear a recession as a consequence of all this malarky, and inflation could be an issue which for my money is the bigger issue, someone after all is going to have to pay for these Tariffs as government pocket the money and that's usually everyday consumers with higher prices on stuff they buy! 

Been a big run up as well the past 12 months, only normal you get some pull back, like all the other shocks and events we get every so often and all the doomsayers come out and say its going to be a disaster, it never eventuates and as it's in everyone's interest, even Trumps to not see a meltdown, they all reach a compromise and its business as usual until the next major event to trigger uncertainty.

FWIW, once things settle down and the US government has all this extra cash from tariffs and DOGE, just you watch Trump hand out tax cuts (which he has promised) and the markets will love that......

[nychammer]

It appears that Trump no longer cares much about the stock markets, previously he was always boasting about how well they were performing and it seemed key for him. Maybe not having to worry about being re-elected again means some things go out the window, so to speak? Fuck knows, some will know better than me.

 

The stock market is that high it does not take much to cause jitters or even a correction. As of today the S&P is where it was back in September last year, hardly a disaster (yet). However, we absolutely MUST reign in the unnecessary spending and while I think Tariffs can be an ugly tactic and have been wielded chaotically, you can make an argument for them in retaliation for what you view as unfair practices, and that is Trump's view to take whether we like it or not. We'll see where it leads, will either be a sharp recession and a political faceplant or an eventual economic success for which he will be remembered. 

[Manuel]

It appears that Trump no longer cares much about the stock markets, previously he was always boasting about how well they were performing and it seemed key for him. Maybe not having to worry about being re-elected again means some things go out the window, so to speak? Fuck knows, some will know better than me.

[Sydney_Iron]

The ex pat Canadians i know in Sydney are seething about Trump, hate him more than Trudeau, which is saying something

They have an election due soon so expect the nationalist rhetoric from both sides to heat up and relations with the orange man to deteriorate further as they both try and show how far they will go to stick up for Canadians

Trump rules out an exemption on Tariffs for Australia overnight, even they we are one of the few countries that has a trade surplus with America, not sure it will impact much apparently our trade is not big! Australia's big trading partners are all in Asia and number 1 is China so maybe a knock-on effect from them if things heat up? 

 

[Nutsin]

I read somewhere that the Brit is taxed more than the China man.
Yes, more than communism!

Anyway, Ukraine have agreed to Trumps terms for a Ceasefire, Just need Putin to agree now. 

So some encouraging progress.

I see Canada backed off their 25% Tariff increase threat on Electricity to parts of the USA because Trump retaliated with 25% increase on Steel.
So now They have a meeting scheduled for Thursday, they’re about to try and work a deal.

I don’t fancy Canada’s chances.

[goose]

Without wanting to sound like a "leftie", there is something terribly wrong with the tax system in this country. You have people like the Duke of Westminster paying zero inheritance tax on his billions while the average working person gets nailed when they inherit their parents house. Their parents got taxed on the purchase of that house, they pay taxes all their life and then the kids get nailed for more when they inherit it.

[Sydney_Iron]

So as I correctly said you are comfortable. Some don't have enough for 2 weeks let alone 2 years plus. Little wonder you find it all so amusing from your ivory tower. Good for you, a bit classless though.

You sound like a Labour hard core lefty with a load of resentment with that bollocks, ivory tower  TBH, I know im fortunate and plenty of people are doing it tough and always will do, i don't look down on them in any shape or form but what should i do give what i have made all away or apologies for having got a nice house and all the trimmings and retired early?

I made enough money from hard work and smart investment, i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth, no magic formula or being more intelligent than anyone else, common sense and not falling for the greed trap of unrealistic returns when investing or weighing up and investment proposition and then sticking with it until such time as it stops performing or it gets over valued so you cash in, but 100% not selling in fear of losing (2008, COVID and maybe now Trump) as that's a sure way to lose it all.

You think what you like about me, i really don't care, i happily tell people how i made money, some take it gratefully, others seem to resent me for it, not sure why , and one thing for sure you don't have to be that smart, im certainly no Einstein.

 

[Manuel]

 

Agree to a point that it can be slightly amusing etc, but it's serious business and it's OK saying all that afar down under with a lovely little pension etc where what Trump does doesn't effect you, but it's not good for all the people that it is affecting. You clearly don't give a fuck about them, which is fair enough. Dog eat dog now days.

 

Not sure why you would assume any of that? What Trump does will affect all of us, because i have taken early retirement doesn't mean i have some kind of guaranteed pension as i don't. Im also not entitled to a government pension until i reach retirement age and I'm a good few years away from that! and it's not great, like the UK enough to survive on but little else.

The world will get over Trump, unless he really goes rogue and starts wars etc, Stock and Bond markets (that's where I'm invested for income) go up and go down, always have and always will, sometimes its dramatic and people panic and sell at distressed prices, history shows if you ride out these storms your always better off, no point trying to pick tops or bottoms, that's a mugs game and besides im not smart enough

We are also a looooooong way off panic mode and TBH even if we get there I'm not sure i will be doing a corporal Jones at any point...........baton down the hatches is more my style and ride it out, mind you one thing markets shocks has taught me is to always sit on enough cash to live on for at least 2 years, that should ride out most storms but no guarantees, but then dividends don't just dry up so not like that pot isn't still getting top ups along the way.

So as I correctly said you are comfortable. Some don't have enough for 2 weeks let alone 2 years plus. Little wonder you find it all so amusing from your ivory tower. Good for you, a bit classless though.

[Sydney_Iron]

 

Agree to a point that it can be slightly amusing etc, but it's serious business and it's OK saying all that afar down under with a lovely little pension etc where what Trump does doesn't effect you, but it's not good for all the people that it is affecting. You clearly don't give a fuck about them, which is fair enough. Dog eat dog now days.

 

 

Not sure why you would assume any of that? What Trump does will affect all of us, because i have taken early retirement doesn't mean i have some kind of guaranteed pension as i don't. Im also not entitled to a government pension until i reach retirement age and I'm a good few years away from that! and it's not great, like the UK enough to survive on but little else.

The world will get over Trump, unless he really goes rogue and starts wars etc, Stock and Bond markets (that's where I'm invested for income) go up and go down, always have and always will, sometimes its dramatic and people panic and sell at distressed prices, history shows if you ride out these storms your always better off, no point trying to pick tops or bottoms, that's a mugs game and besides im not smart enough

We are also a looooooong way off panic mode and TBH even if we get there I'm not sure i will be doing a corporal Jones at any point...........baton down the hatches is more my style and ride it out, mind you one thing markets shocks has taught me is to always sit on enough cash to live on for at least 2 years, that should ride out most storms but no guarantees, but then dividends don't just dry up so not like that pot isn't still getting top ups along the way.

[goose]

It’s all fun and games until you realise he’s knocked 2% off your pension pot.

[Manuel]

Say what you want about the orange man, but he has put the fun back into politics

The football season is fast turning into a bore fest, so each morning i look at the news sites to see what his latest antics, tweets or rants are!

Love the way he just doesn't give a fuck, even though i may not agree with everything he's doing, it's certainly a change, couple of Canadian expats i know though who are normally pretty easy going, rational and mild mannered yet just the mention of his name has steam coming out their ears, they hate the cսnt with a passion.....

Agree to a point that it can be slightly amusing etc, but it's serious business and it's OK saying all that afar down under with a lovely little pension etc where what Trump does doesn't effect you, but it's not good for all the people that it is affecting. You clearly don't give a fuck about them, which is fair enough. Dog eat dog now days.

[Sydney_Iron]

Say what you want about the orange man, but he has put the fun back into politics

The football season is fast turning into a bore fest, so each morning i look at the news sites to see what his latest antics, tweets or rants are!

Love the way he just doesn't give a fuck, even though i may not agree with everything he's doing, it's certainly a change, couple of Canadian expats i know though who are normally pretty easy going, rational and mild mannered yet just the mention of his name has steam coming out their ears, they hate the cսnt with a passion.....

[Nutsin]

If the Trump led peace talks fail it could be Starmer leading the charge to defend Europe from Putin.

You ready?

[ironsofcanada]

In the meantime, i would expect both sides of Politics in your neck of the woods to go all out to show how far they will go to protect Canada and resist all things the orange man throws your way, fully expect to see him on the news trolling and calling Carney the new Governor

There is no such thing as a popular vote for leader in our (collective) system. 

Unfortunately, while we should be focused on why we are so dependant on the States economically, why we have a Chinese infiltration problem (that includes fentanyl), and why we generally becoming less and less free, we are instead fighting who can be most against States.

China just slapped tariffs on us but they are smart enough, I guess, not to make a big deal of it.  Or they smartly know Trump makes himself the shiney object and we are stupid enough to be completely distracted. 

[Sydney_Iron]

Canada replaces one davos sock puppet for yet another

But wait 113,00 members voted for him.


(One of aspects of the American system I prefer to ours (collective ours).)

Yeah but its not like this new bloke has won the popular vote, its Trudeau and his party choosing a new leader, so was always going to be someone of this ilk, don't you have elections that need to be had before the end of the year? See what the average Canadian thinks of him then i suppose!

In the meantime, i would expect both sides of Politics in your neck of the woods to go all out to show how far they will go to protect Canada and resist all things the orange man throws your way, fully expect to see him on the news trolling and calling Carney the new Governor

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Nursie,

Personally, as a proud cavalier with impeccable personal hygiene, and you will know better than me, but aren't some uncircumcised chaps occasionally a bit whiff down there?

[Far Cough UKunt]

I missed the replies as I don't look on here as much any more.

Male circumcision was originally carried out as an essential hygiene practice in hot countries that had poor or no sanitation systems where fresh water was anything but.  It has its medical uses in a small number of cases today but a case could be made for banning it outside of medical necessity.  It has zero effect on the male's ability to enjoy sex in later life.

Female circumcision is an extremely misogynistic, barbaric practice that has high injury rates compared to male circumcision and is intended to deprive the female of any future sexual pleasure and ensure that for her, sex is purely an act of procreation.  I have not seen a single medical case made for female circumcision, neither have I heard of it being mentioned in the Torah, Talmud, Bible or Koran. It should be banned outright and lengthy prison sentences for those who practise it or allow it to be carried out, followed by permanent deportation for those involved and all family members.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

I do not subscribe to the view that because female circumcision is worse than male circumcision, this makes male circumcision ok. It's like saying rape is ok because murder is worse.

We no longer live in deserts with no access to water to wash in. Male circumcision is no longer required. To continue to practise the butchery is disgusting. 

 

Nurse, I had it done for medical reasons, I'm now a proud roundhead.

Yes it hurt like a cսnt, I had to pull my own stitches out, I wouldn't let anyone else near it.

[Nurse Ratched]

I missed the replies as I don't look on here as much any more.

Male circumcision was originally carried out as an essential hygiene practice in hot countries that had poor or no sanitation systems where fresh water was anything but.  It has its medical uses in a small number of cases today but a case could be made for banning it outside of medical necessity.  It has zero effect on the male's ability to enjoy sex in later life.

Female circumcision is an extremely misogynistic, barbaric practice that has high injury rates compared to male circumcision and is intended to deprive the female of any future sexual pleasure and ensure that for her, sex is purely an act of procreation.  I have not seen a single medical case made for female circumcision, neither have I heard of it being mentioned in the Torah, Talmud, Bible or Koran. It should be banned outright and lengthy prison sentences for those who practise it or allow it to be carried out, followed by permanent deportation for those involved and all family members.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

I do not subscribe to the view that because female circumcision is worse than male circumcision, this makes male circumcision ok. It's like saying rape is ok because murder is worse.

We no longer live in deserts with no access to water to wash in. Male circumcision is no longer required. To continue to practise the butchery is disgusting.