The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

Trump blinks first and ‘pauses’ tariffs for dozens of countries. 
Raises the tariffs on China to 125%.

lolz

You really are a clown!

[goose]

Trump blinks first and ‘pauses’ tariffs for dozens of countries. 
Raises the tariffs on China to 125%.

lolz

[goose]

The Chinese don't have to worry about getting re-elected, or passing laws through this house or that house, they will raise or lower interest rates if they want to, and they can tell Chinese business what to do.

 

[dealcanvey]

Countries are gonna fold to the new global market place. And so will China. Although I think Trump will make China feel the pain for a while before he makes a deal.

China certainly are not folding at the moment. Just hit the US back with an increased tariff of 84%. Not going to be plain sailing for Trump with China when the US are far more reliant on Chinese importa rather than the other way round.

[goose]

Re-allocated funds in my 401k personal pension today, was heavily weighted in Bonds with a 50-50 split in foreign and US stocks.
Was down 3.84% YTD but still up 6.3% over 1 year.
moved into the Fidelity S&P 500 mutual fund mainly , NVIDIA, Google, Apple etc.

and the MIP CL 1 fund. T Bills, Fnma BofA. 

Countries are gonna fold to the new global market place. And so will China. Although I think Trump will make China feel the pain for a while before he makes a deal.

Not a get rich quick play but a nice Long term play. I am layering in, so I have saved some powder in case it drops further.

with savings I’m looking at the QQQ ETF, NVIDIA and GameStop looks interesting. Risk reward looks good. So do the Bollinger bands. Could still see volatility so layering in still. VIX looks like a good short at these lofty levels, VIX hasn’t been this high since COVID and isn’t far off from the Collapse of Lehman shock.

Nice to see Bill Ackman is getting crushed. Man is a weasel! Probably getting whacked with margin calls. Gold selling is probably because investors/traders have to sell to cover margin calls.

Remember the trend is your friend till the bend at the end.

The sky isn’t falling, stop listening to the scaremongering. Buy American! And don’t expect to buy the bottom. 

I hope Nutsin is okay.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ic-deepens

Outside of the bond sell off, global hedge funds are dropping US tech stocks at an alarming rate.

Didn't he say there was no way China could win this trade war?

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

OBR
AKA the blob/cunts
Stay strong  and we will prevail 
God bless all of Christian faith


 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I see Jaguar are the first car manufacturer to come out and say they are suspending exports to the USA for the time being, didn't they go woke last year so no surprise with this, not that anyone is buying their cars anyway

Personally think the impact from these tariffs won't be as bad as the "experts" think, its all pitchfork shaking and doom and gloom right now but things will settle down, and although the US consumer will have to pay more, some of these tariff costs will be absorbed by producers and importers, then factor in that Oil has fallen about 10%, transport costs (for the near term at least) will be lower which again will absorb some of the impact.

Some silly cunts ("experts") on varies US TV channels bemoaning that Trump had lost retirees and investors billions, silly cunts are lying as it's the value of investment that has gone down and that's just part and parcel of market movements, it's just a bit more volatile than normal and so unless you sell right now, its factually incorrect that you have lost money, but i think they know that but it does fit the narrative!

Maybe see a bit more downside and then things will stabilize, but maybe a while before we get anything to resemble a bull market, used to love this kind of volatility when i traded, make hay while the sun shines, short term positions as the market swung one way then the other, fuck the fundamentals, momentum and fear from the public would see some great trades, back in the floor trading days it was even better sadly when electronic trading took over, things slowly dried up as algorithms and advanced system trades arbitraged out a lot of the opportunities that used to exist, i gave it away about 2012 but often look at what i did and how it would fare in today's markets, not very well at all, but that's just the evolution of the markets, need very different strategy's to make a living today, more for tech nerds than contrarians and opportunists.

You know it Sydney son

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I remember Janet Yellen telling us all that Biden’s inflation was transitory, Then having to walk it back admitting she was wrong.

All Powell has said that the odds have increased.

Todays jobs numbers came in higher than expected.
Oil prices down, Interest rates down, so is Gold. Gold/ silver ratio is at an extreme, is gold overbought? Or does Silver have some catching up to do?

Only people throwing their toys in the air are the talking head traders who are losing their shirts, probably have long positions on margin and are getting hammered with margin calls and the propogandists that want you all to believe the sky is falling. LOL
Let’s see what happens.

Might take a minute but all those countries with Tariffs and trade barriers  will cave. You’ll see. Even China, they know they can’t beat the USA in a trade war.

Just give it time! 

And then you Drama queens can disappear again.

Tell me why China can’t beat the USA in a trade war? The balance of trade is heavily in their favour, belt & road initiative means their trading partners are diversified across the globe, and most importantly their political set up gives them far greater tolerance to suffer the economic consequences.

Predicted inflation is not going to bring interest rates down no matter how much Trump stamps his feet. Which country do you think can suffer the pain for longer?

On top of all that, China doesn't have to worry about public opinion

Mick Taylor didn't eitherhttps://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monster-and-slashers/images/e/ee/Mick_Taylor111.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210923224806

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I see NiSk Tencsni and UKIP's video in EASTLEIGH  has been taken down from  YOO TOOB.

and so it goes on..and on .and on

You fuckers have no idea what's coming down the pipe....

 

[Nutsin]

Re-allocated funds in my 401k personal pension today, was heavily weighted in Bonds with a 50-50 split in foreign and US stocks.
Was down 3.84% YTD but still up 6.3% over 1 year.
moved into the Fidelity S&P 500 mutual fund mainly , NVIDIA, Google, Apple etc.

and the MIP CL 1 fund. T Bills, Fnma BofA. 

Countries are gonna fold to the new global market place. And so will China. Although I think Trump will make China feel the pain for a while before he makes a deal.

Not a get rich quick play but a nice Long term play. I am layering in, so I have saved some powder in case it drops further.

with savings I’m looking at the QQQ ETF, NVIDIA and GameStop looks interesting. Risk reward looks good. So do the Bollinger bands. Could still see volatility so layering in still. VIX looks like a good short at these lofty levels, VIX hasn’t been this high since COVID and isn’t far off from the Collapse of Lehman shock.

Nice to see Bill Ackman is getting crushed. Man is a weasel! Probably getting whacked with margin calls. Gold selling is probably because investors/traders have to sell to cover margin calls.

Remember the trend is your friend till the bend at the end.

The sky isn’t falling, stop listening to the scaremongering. Buy American! And don’t expect to buy the bottom. 

[Sydney_Iron]

I see Jaguar are the first car manufacturer to come out and say they are suspending exports to the USA for the time being, didn't they go woke last year so no surprise with this, not that anyone is buying their cars anyway

Personally think the impact from these tariffs won't be as bad as the "experts" think, its all pitchfork shaking and doom and gloom right now but things will settle down, and although the US consumer will have to pay more, some of these tariff costs will be absorbed by producers and importers, then factor in that Oil has fallen about 10%, transport costs (for the near term at least) will be lower which again will absorb some of the impact.

Some silly cunts ("experts") on varies US TV channels bemoaning that Trump had lost retirees and investors billions, silly cunts are lying as it's the value of investment that has gone down and that's just part and parcel of market movements, it's just a bit more volatile than normal and so unless you sell right now, its factually incorrect that you have lost money, but i think they know that but it does fit the narrative!

Maybe see a bit more downside and then things will stabilize, but maybe a while before we get anything to resemble a bull market, used to love this kind of volatility when i traded, make hay while the sun shines, short term positions as the market swung one way then the other, fuck the fundamentals, momentum and fear from the public would see some great trades, back in the floor trading days it was even better sadly when electronic trading took over, things slowly dried up as algorithms and advanced system trades arbitraged out a lot of the opportunities that used to exist, i gave it away about 2012 but often look at what i did and how it would fare in today's markets, not very well at all, but that's just the evolution of the markets, need very different strategy's to make a living today, more for tech nerds than contrarians and opportunists.

[goose]

It’s also reasonable to question just how gullible you are.
This is, in your left wing propaganda brainwashed opinion a Welshman.




By the way has to pull the pic of his mug shot from X, the BBC and all the other liberal networks don’t want to share his mugshot. Wonder why?

Lol says the poster who claimed he was Muslim and from Somalia.

Yeh the BBC definitely didn’t:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74ep44ex27o.amp

honestly do you check any of your nonsense before you post it?

Yeah well It wasn’t on Google search. My point remains the same, you are a brainwashed liberal and you apparently don’t even know it.

At least I know what I stand for. 

Im done arguing with you go fucking argue with someone else. It’s a beautiful day outside, I’m gonna go enjoy it. 

Funny I searched it and it was the first thing that came up, almost like you’ve been caught out making up more stuff.

[Nutsin]

Where have I said that before?
The point is they already existed (largely for decades) before Trump took office and he chose to make this decision. 

Therefore it’s completely reasonable to question the impact of his decision.

It’s also reasonable to question just how gullible you are.
This is, in your left wing propaganda brainwashed opinion a Welshman.




By the way has to pull the pic of his mug shot from X, the BBC and all the other liberal networks don’t want to share his mugshot. Wonder why?

Lol says the poster who claimed he was Muslim and from Somalia.

Yeh the BBC definitely didn’t:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74ep44ex27o.amp

honestly do you check any of your nonsense before you post it?

Yeah well It wasn’t on Google search. My point remains the same, you are a brainwashed liberal and you apparently don’t even know it.

At least I know what I stand for. 

Im done arguing with you go fucking argue with someone else. It’s a beautiful day outside, I’m gonna go enjoy it. 

[goose]

Tell me again why Reciprocal Tarrifs are bad but the Tarrifs already in place against the USA are good?

Where have I said that before?
The point is they already existed (largely for decades) before Trump took office and he chose to make this decision. 

Therefore it’s completely reasonable to question the impact of his decision.

It’s also reasonable to question just how gullible you are.
This is, in your left wing propaganda brainwashed opinion a Welshman.




By the way has to pull the pic of his mug shot from X, the BBC and all the other liberal networks don’t want to share his mugshot. Wonder why?

Lol says the poster who claimed he was Muslim and from Somalia.

Yeh the BBC definitely didn’t:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74ep44ex27o.amp

honestly do you check any of your nonsense before you post it?

[Nutsin]

Well done again for completing proving my point.

I’ve posted up a couple of things I’ve argued for that are the polar opposite of liberal but your brain just cannot manage to make sense of it.

Tell me again why Reciprocal Tarrifs are bad but the Tarrifs already in place against the USA are good?

Where have I said that before?
The point is they already existed (largely for decades) before Trump took office and he chose to make this decision. 

Therefore it’s completely reasonable to question the impact of his decision.

It’s also reasonable to question just how gullible you are.
This is, in your left wing propaganda brainwashed opinion a Welshman.




By the way has to pull the pic of his mug shot from X, the BBC and all the other liberal networks don’t want to share his mugshot. Wonder why?

[goose]

You dont fool me, every opinion you have is left wing propoganda.

Here you go, get your head around this, wonder what they will cut next? Unemployment for Non Muslims perhaps?


https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-un ... se/3527216

Well done again for completing proving my point.

I’ve posted up a couple of things I’ve argued for that are the polar opposite of liberal but your brain just cannot manage to make sense of it.

Tell me again why Reciprocal Tarrifs are bad but the Tarrifs already in place against the USA are good?

Where have I said that before?
The point is they already existed (largely for decades) before Trump took office and he chose to make this decision. 

Therefore it’s completely reasonable to question the impact of his decision.

[Nutsin]

Yeah what a weirdo being able to form my own opinions on something instead of blindly following what Trump says.

You dont fool me, every opinion you have is left wing propoganda.

Here you go, get your head around this, wonder what they will cut next? Unemployment for Non Muslims perhaps?


https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-un ... se/3527216

Well done again for completing proving my point.

I’ve posted up a couple of things I’ve argued for that are the polar opposite of liberal but your brain just cannot manage to make sense of it.

Tell me again why Reciprocal Tarrifs are bad but the Tarrifs already in place against the USA are good?

[goose]

Oh so you’re just an argumentative cսnt who likes to argue against himself. Got it!

what a weirdo.

Yeah what a weirdo being able to form my own opinions on something instead of blindly following what Trump says.

You dont fool me, every opinion you have is left wing propoganda.

Here you go, get your head around this, wonder what they will cut next? Unemployment for Non Muslims perhaps?


https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-un ... se/3527216

Well done again for completing proving my point.

I’ve posted up a couple of things I’ve argued for that are the polar opposite of liberal but your brain just cannot manage to make sense of it.

[Nutsin]

 

By brainwashed thinking about Muslims do mean that kid you said was a Muslim but was actually Christian?
or the Sharia courts you claimed existed but actually don’t?

You bitched a few weeks ago when I backed cutting disability benefits for those who can work? Not a very liberal viewpoint was it?
Or cutting the foreign aid handouts? Also not very liberal.

but you’re so entrenched in your thinking that you cannot see the obvious.




 

Oh so you’re just an argumentative cսnt who likes to argue against himself. Got it!

what a weirdo.

Yeah what a weirdo being able to form my own opinions on something instead of blindly following what Trump says.

You dont fool me, every opinion you have is left wing propoganda.

Here you go, get your head around this, wonder what they will cut next? Unemployment for Non Muslims perhaps?


https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-un ... se/3527216

[goose]

Here is Nuanced reasoning.

Trumps Tarrifs are bringing Jobs and manufacturing back to the USA. Gary Indiana, which is predominantly black and a pretty poor community is beginning to grow and develop their manufacturing again. A big win for the black community. Steel worker and Sugar refineries are expanding and old abandoned buildings and factories are being rebuilt for new biz opportunities.

Perhaps we can rename the rust belt to the Golden belt.

OR

We can use your Nuanced reasoning, where we worry more about the hateful Islam than we do about our own kids.


Yeah I know who’s nuanced reasoning sounds more reasonable and it ain’t yours.

And now you’re trying to wiggle your way out from under your brainwashed left wing mentality that you’ve been sharing with us all for god knows how long.

Fucking critical thinker LOL!

 

By brainwashed thinking about Muslims do mean that kid you said was a Muslim but was actually Christian?
or the Sharia courts you claimed existed but actually don’t?

You bitched a few weeks ago when I backed cutting disability benefits for those who can work? Not a very liberal viewpoint was it?
Or cutting the foreign aid handouts? Also not very liberal.

but you’re so entrenched in your thinking that you cannot see the obvious.



 

Oh so you’re just an argumentative cսnt who likes to argue against himself. Got it!

what a weirdo.

Yeah what a weirdo being able to form my own opinions on something instead of blindly following what Trump says.

[Nutsin]

The fact you think I’m a ‘liberal’ proves my point perfectly.

Here is Nuanced reasoning.

Trumps Tarrifs are bringing Jobs and manufacturing back to the USA. Gary Indiana, which is predominantly black and a pretty poor community is beginning to grow and develop their manufacturing again. A big win for the black community. Steel worker and Sugar refineries are expanding and old abandoned buildings and factories are being rebuilt for new biz opportunities.

Perhaps we can rename the rust belt to the Golden belt.

OR

We can use your Nuanced reasoning, where we worry more about the hateful Islam than we do about our own kids.


Yeah I know who’s nuanced reasoning sounds more reasonable and it ain’t yours.

And now you’re trying to wiggle your way out from under your brainwashed left wing mentality that you’ve been sharing with us all for god knows how long.

Fucking critical thinker LOL!

 

By brainwashed thinking about Muslims do mean that kid you said was a Muslim but was actually Christian?
or the Sharia courts you claimed existed but actually don’t?

You bitched a few weeks ago when I backed cutting disability benefits for those who can work? Not a very liberal viewpoint was it?
Or cutting the foreign aid handouts? Also not very liberal.

but you’re so entrenched in your thinking that you cannot see the obvious.


 

Oh so you’re just an argumentative cսnt who likes to argue against himself. Got it!

what a weirdo.

[goose]

 Cause keying Tesla’s is what you brainwashed liberals do.

If Tarrifs are self harming then all those countries that use them against the USA should have no problem removing them, right?

The more you talk the sillier you sound. Just like every other Liberal. 

The fact you think I’m a ‘liberal’ proves my point perfectly.

Here is Nuanced reasoning.

Trumps Tarrifs are bringing Jobs and manufacturing back to the USA. Gary Indiana, which is predominantly black and a pretty poor community is beginning to grow and develop their manufacturing again. A big win for the black community. Steel worker and Sugar refineries are expanding and old abandoned buildings and factories are being rebuilt for new biz opportunities.

Perhaps we can rename the rust belt to the Golden belt.

OR

We can use your Nuanced reasoning, where we worry more about the hateful Islam than we do about our own kids.


Yeah I know who’s nuanced reasoning sounds more reasonable and it ain’t yours.

And now you’re trying to wiggle your way out from under your brainwashed left wing mentality that you’ve been sharing with us all for god knows how long.

Fucking critical thinker LOL!

 

By brainwashed thinking about Muslims do mean that kid you said was a Muslim but was actually Christian?
or the Sharia courts you claimed existed but actually don’t?

You bitched a few weeks ago when I backed cutting disability benefits for those who can work? Not a very liberal viewpoint was it?
Or cutting the foreign aid handouts? Also not very liberal.

but you’re so entrenched in your thinking that you cannot see the obvious.

 

[Nutsin]

 

Why would I be doing that? Again your lack of nuanced reasoning stands out a mile.
Because I think tariffs are self harming it somehow means I’m vandalising cars? Try & make it make sense please.

 Cause keying Tesla’s is what you brainwashed liberals do.

If Tarrifs are self harming then all those countries that use them against the USA should have no problem removing them, right?

The more you talk the sillier you sound. Just like every other Liberal. 

The fact you think I’m a ‘liberal’ proves my point perfectly.

Here is Nuanced reasoning.

Trumps Tarrifs are bringing Jobs and manufacturing back to the USA. Gary Indiana, which is predominantly black and a pretty poor community is beginning to grow and develop their manufacturing again. A big win for the black community. Steel worker and Sugar refineries are expanding and old abandoned buildings and factories are being rebuilt for new biz opportunities.

Perhaps we can rename the rust belt to the Golden belt.

OR

We can use your Nuanced reasoning, where we worry more about the hateful Islam than we do about our own kids.


Yeah I know who’s nuanced reasoning sounds more reasonable and it ain’t yours.

And now you’re trying to wiggle your way out from under your brainwashed left wing mentality that you’ve been sharing with us all for god knows how long.

Fucking critical thinker LOL!

[goose]

Shouldn’t you be out keying your friends Tesla?

 

Why would I be doing that? Again your lack of nuanced reasoning stands out a mile.
Because I think tariffs are self harming it somehow means I’m vandalising cars? Try & make it make sense please.

 Cause keying Tesla’s is what you brainwashed liberals do.

If Tarrifs are self harming then all those countries that use them against the USA should have no problem removing them, right?

The more you talk the sillier you sound. Just like every other Liberal. 

The fact you think I’m a ‘liberal’ proves my point perfectly.

[Nutsin]

Pensions are diversified but that doesn’t change he the fact that way more than 8% of people are exposed to this.

Shouldn’t you be out keying your friends Tesla?

 

Why would I be doing that? Again your lack of nuanced reasoning stands out a mile.
Because I think tariffs are self harming it somehow means I’m vandalising cars? Try & make it make sense please.

What was you saying about nuanced reasoning limited one? 

Im trying to figure out why you think reciprocal Tarrifs are self harming but Tarrifs that are already in place against the USA aren’t?