The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

“Nutsin Buffet” lol! 

made me laugh!

[Cabbige Savage]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

Yes Pijckle firend - you still no1 WHO brain.
you shud do the pointy heads thing agayn tho.

 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

Just repeating the shit you wrote doesn't make it any better. And quoting some other cսnt that also deliberately uses the wrong word in order to over-sensationalise the position doesn't help you out either. Words have different meanings and they matter. The only other twat on here that uses his own private definitions of words at variance with general usage or their dictionary definition is H&P. But no, that couldn't possibly be, could it?

No 'investments' have  been 'wiped out'. Some investments may now only be what they were worth a year ago but, hey, 'markets can go down as well as up'. It's possible that some short-term speculators have taken a massive bath, but, a) again, hey, that's the risk you take and b) I couldn't really give a shit about them because (see a))

You claimed I didnt know how markets worked. When put on the spot you claimed it was because I said that Triilions were wiped out instead of Trillions were wiped off. Big deal you couldnt back up your claim and to trivialise it even more it turns out Stocks new outlets also use the very same word in their headlines.

Run along you simpleton - if youve got nothing to say stfu.

Go and Comment on the Joke thread leave the important chat to those that actually have something to say rather than picking tiny holes in other posters comments.

See ya numbnuts 

[WHU(Exeter)]

Everyone in the country could find somewhere where they felt threatened. Still plenty of pubs, where people would feel ill at ease if they weren't from the immediate area.

Most people don't go running to get  common sense, widely accepted and established laws changed over it though.

And as others have said "what's the threat"? Isn't one of their demands to use women's toilets? By that point they would've been in whatever place they were in for a while before? If they were going to actually get threatened it would be early doors, not when they decided to use the women's toilets?

Long haired hippies used to regularly get beaten up decades ago. They used to just crack on.

Nowadays blokes dressed as women, bleat on about threats that aren't even there.

Worlds gone bat shit crazy.

 

[goose]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

I don’t have an issue with the content of either. The article about Nvidia you can find similar in many different sources. The numbers about the impact are the same wherever you get your news.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

Just repeating the shit you wrote doesn't make it any better. And quoting some other cսnt that also deliberately uses the wrong word in order to over-sensationalise the position doesn't help you out either. Words have different meanings and they matter. The only other twat on here that uses his own private definitions of words at variance with general usage or their dictionary definition is H&P. But no, that couldn't possibly be, could it?

No 'investments' have  been 'wiped out'. Some investments may now only be what they were worth a year ago but, hey, 'markets can go down as well as up'. It's possible that some short-term speculators have taken a massive bath, but, a) again, hey, that's the risk you take and b) I couldn't really give a shit about them because (see a))

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Ok, so you now know what a correction is. Glad I could educate you again.

I came on here and said when I made my investment changes, It’s on the thread, so yeah, I knew it was a buying opportunity, as did plenty of others which is why it has gone back up. When idiots like you were selling I was buying…. Thanks, I appreciate it!

Oh and there wi be more volatility and we will see more corrections, that’s how it works.

And as for “no good reason” I beg to differ, Supply chain issues cause inflation and national security issues have the USA reliant on China for pharmaceuticals, Rare earths and Steel. Two good reasons right there.

Then there’s the trade deficit and loss of US jobs. Two more good reasons.

Then there’s the threat of China becoming the dominant super power as well as all of the Intellectual property and technology they blatantly steal from the USA. More good reasons.

Im sure there are others too.

Again you are showing just what a fuckwit looks like!

Oh my god Nutsack .... so now you are saying that Trumps tarrifs were added to eliviate supply chain issues that cause inflation! You think whacking on a load of extra cost to US manufacturing is going to a) smooth the supply chain and b) make those goods cheaper! Tarrifs on their own do not solve trade deficits the size of the US - jeez what an idiot!

The US cant make those components cheaper than China adding tarrifs increases the cost whether you continue to import them or if/when you eventually can make them yourself.

Oh and pricing China and Ireland out of the US pharmaceutical market is really going to help how exactly? You think the US can manufacture your drug needs overnight?

I'll say again as you are such a simpleton we all know what a correction is and as I said I didnt sell I bought the dip. So yet again you are just so full of shit! Just like your mighty leader and his gang of cons and cronies. Good luck! your country is going to hell and you and your MAGA cretins are standing cheering watching them bleed it dry. Nice work!

Billy bought the dip lol!

I think people that read this thread will quite easily see that you had no idea what a correction is.
its in plain sight.

Im starting to feel sorry for you!

Well dont I bought a lot during covid some of which are now up 600% so I really dont care what little twerps like you think.

Trump's still mismanaging the US economy and each time the market dips I'll buy, but I still think he's a cսnt!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

[goose]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

[Nutsin]

NY Attorney General Letitia James has been referred to the DOJ for mortgage fraud. You might remember her as she went all out to prosecute Trump before the election for commiting fraud for biz loans for overstating the value of his assets.

well apparently she purchased a home out of state as her primary residence to get a better rate, and the second offense she said her 5 unit property was a 4 unit property. Why is that significant, well in the USA Residential lending covers up to 4 units. A 5 unit property is a commercial loan. A completely different loan qualifying process, a much more detailed and expensive appraisal and a higher rate than residential lending.

If proven she is in a world of trouble. These are serious charges.

Funny how these Dems constantly accuse the Republicans of crimes that they are doing.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

[Nutsin]

Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments - for no good reason! But come on it was a massive surprise to the markets as to the ridiculous size and potential impacts to the US economy - otherwise if they knew what was coming those adjustments/corrections would already have been baked in - but they weren't - so yes it was a surprise! Except for you obviously cos you got your finger on it - plus Trumps cronies all made a killing too!

Ok, so you now know what a correction is. Glad I could educate you again.

I came on here and said when I made my investment changes, It’s on the thread, so yeah, I knew it was a buying opportunity, as did plenty of others which is why it has gone back up. When idiots like you were selling I was buying…. Thanks, I appreciate it!

Oh and there wi be more volatility and we will see more corrections, that’s how it works.

And as for “no good reason” I beg to differ, Supply chain issues cause inflation and national security issues have the USA reliant on China for pharmaceuticals, Rare earths and Steel. Two good reasons right there.

Then there’s the trade deficit and loss of US jobs. Two more good reasons.

Then there’s the threat of China becoming the dominant super power as well as all of the Intellectual property and technology they blatantly steal from the USA. More good reasons.

Im sure there are others too.

Again you are showing just what a fuckwit looks like!

Oh my god Nutsack .... so now you are saying that Trumps tarrifs were added to eliviate supply chain issues that cause inflation! You think whacking on a load of extra cost to US manufacturing is going to a) smooth the supply chain and b) make those goods cheaper! Tarrifs on their own do not solve trade deficits the size of the US - jeez what an idiot!

The US cant make those components cheaper than China adding tarrifs increases the cost whether you continue to import them or if/when you eventually can make them yourself.

Oh and pricing China and Ireland out of the US pharmaceutical market is really going to help how exactly? You think the US can manufacture your drug needs overnight?

I'll say again as you are such a simpleton we all know what a correction is and as I said I didnt sell I bought the dip. So yet again you are just so full of shit! Just like your mighty leader and his gang of cons and cronies. Good luck! your country is going to hell and you and your MAGA cretins are standing cheering watching them bleed it dry. Nice work!

Billy bought the dip lol!

I think people that read this thread will quite easily see that you had no idea what a correction is.
its in plain sight.

Im starting to feel sorry for you!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Here you go silly nuts, here is an article from the Associated Press. Ask Goose about the Associated Press he uses them all the time. 

https://apnews.com/article/financial-ma ... 23df450b72#


Nobody is saying that the correction wasn’t caused by Tarrifs, )although Trump did forewarn everyone that he was gonna place reciprocal Tarrifs on April 2nd plenty of times in March, so it wasn’t a surprise.)

But what we had was a Correction. Now stop showing yourself up! 

Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments - for no good reason! But come on it was a massive surprise to the markets as to the ridiculous size and potential impacts to the US economy - otherwise if they knew what was coming those adjustments/corrections would already have been baked in - but they weren't - so yes it was a surprise! Except for you obviously cos you got your finger on it - plus Trumps cronies all made a killing too!

Ok, so you now know what a correction is. Glad I could educate you again.

I came on here and said when I made my investment changes, It’s on the thread, so yeah, I knew it was a buying opportunity, as did plenty of others which is why it has gone back up. When idiots like you were selling I was buying…. Thanks, I appreciate it!

Oh and there wi be more volatility and we will see more corrections, that’s how it works.

And as for “no good reason” I beg to differ, Supply chain issues cause inflation and national security issues have the USA reliant on China for pharmaceuticals, Rare earths and Steel. Two good reasons right there.

Then there’s the trade deficit and loss of US jobs. Two more good reasons.

Then there’s the threat of China becoming the dominant super power as well as all of the Intellectual property and technology they blatantly steal from the USA. More good reasons.

Im sure there are others too.

Again you are showing just what a fuckwit looks like!

Oh my god Nutsack .... so now you are saying that Trumps tarrifs were added to eliviate supply chain issues that cause inflation! You think whacking on a load of extra cost to US manufacturing is going to a) smooth the supply chain and b) make those goods cheaper! Tarrifs on their own do not solve trade deficits the size of the US - jeez what an idiot!

The US cant make those components cheaper than China adding tarrifs increases the cost whether you continue to import them or if/when you eventually can make them yourself.

Oh and pricing China and Ireland out of the US pharmaceutical market is really going to help how exactly? You think the US can manufacture your drug needs overnight?

I'll say again as you are such a simpleton we all know what a correction is and as I said I didnt sell I bought the dip. So yet again you are just so full of shit! Just like your mighty leader and his gang of cons and cronies. Good luck! your country is going to hell and you and your MAGA cretins are standing cheering watching them bleed it dry. Nice work!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

I'm actually somewhere in the middle of Goose and Nutsin on this one, however, the best thing on this thread so far has been BillyJenningsBoots idiotic explanation about how markets work.

'Trillions of dollars.. wiped out' is my favourite part.

What part wasnt true and how much was wiped off then?

Please share your greater knowledge oh wise one!

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

I'm actually somewhere in the middle of Goose and Nutsin on this one, however, the best thing on this thread so far has been BillyJenningsBoots idiotic explanation about how markets work.

'Trillions of dollars.. wiped out' is my favourite part.

[Nutsin]

 

At present, absolutely.

And for the significant future.

Many of the goods hit with tariffs—like semiconductors, certain electronics, and low-cost manufactured goods (e.g., clothing, household items, etc.)—are made overseas because the U.S. simply doesn’t have the domestic infrastructure or cost efficiency to produce them at scale anymore.

Still lapping up all that left wing propaganda I see Goose. Some people never learn. What you gonna say when the rust belt becomes the gold belt?

Still avoiding the actual facts?

Yeah, be sure to let me know ow when the sky falls in!

[goose]

Are you saying the US can’t build the infrastructure and or get these products and raw materials from other countries?

 

At present, absolutely.

And for the significant future.

Many of the goods hit with tariffs—like semiconductors, certain electronics, and low-cost manufactured goods (e.g., clothing, household items, etc.)—are made overseas because the U.S. simply doesn’t have the domestic infrastructure or cost efficiency to produce them at scale anymore.

Still lapping up all that left wing propaganda I see Goose. Some people never learn. What you gonna say when the rust belt becomes the gold belt?

Still avoiding the actual facts?

[Nutsin]

It was a question not a statement, hence the question mark.

Do you think the US has the infrastructure, labour, supply chains to onshore all these products & raw materials?
(I’ll give you a clue, the answer is ‘no’).

Are you saying the US can’t build the infrastructure and or get these products and raw materials from other countries?

 

At present, absolutely.

And for the significant future.

Many of the goods hit with tariffs—like semiconductors, certain electronics, and low-cost manufactured goods (e.g., clothing, household items, etc.)—are made overseas because the U.S. simply doesn’t have the domestic infrastructure or cost efficiency to produce them at scale anymore.

Still lapping up all that left wing propaganda I see Goose. Some people never learn. What you gonna say when the rust belt becomes the gold belt?

[Cabbige Savage]

Tesla Bot will relplayce the chinaman

+ it not spit, eat dog and smoke all the time

[BRANDED]

They certainly dont have the cheap wages. I see around 70 countries want a deal and many offering zero tariffs. 

[goose]

Are you speaking for the whole of the USA now Goose?

And do you think this is all about Nike ffs?

Fucking hell!

It was a question not a statement, hence the question mark.

Do you think the US has the infrastructure, labour, supply chains to onshore all these products & raw materials?
(I’ll give you a clue, the answer is ‘no’).

Are you saying the US can’t build the infrastructure and or get these products and raw materials from other countries?

 

 

At present, absolutely.

And for the significant future.

Many of the goods hit with tariffs—like semiconductors, certain electronics, and low-cost manufactured goods (e.g., clothing, household items, etc.)—are made overseas because the U.S. simply doesn’t have the domestic infrastructure or cost efficiency to produce them at scale anymore.

[Nutsin]

You think Americans want to work in a Nike factory?

Are you speaking for the whole of the USA now Goose?

And do you think this is all about Nike ffs?

Fucking hell!

It was a question not a statement, hence the question mark.

Do you think the US has the infrastructure, labour, supply chains to onshore all these products & raw materials?
(I’ll give you a clue, the answer is ‘no’).

Are you saying the US can’t build the infrastructure and or get these products and raw materials from other countries?

[goose]

Fuck me quoting David Chapelle lol!

That just about sums you up! 

Fucking Goose and Billy or should I say Dumb and Dumber!

You think Americans want to work in a Nike factory?

Are you speaking for the whole of the USA now Goose?

And do you think this is all about Nike ffs?

Fucking hell!

It was a question not a statement, hence the question mark.

Do you think the US has the infrastructure, labour, supply chains to onshore all these products & raw materials?
(I’ll give you a clue, the answer is ‘no’).

[Nutsin]

Oh so inspite of the worlds finance experts saying its a massive crash self inflicted by Trump you and your MAGA/Fox buddies say its just a natural correction, which does happen from time to time.

So it was a coincidence then that Trump happened to announce the Tarrifs and the markets fell like a stone the biggest "correction" since Covid and then after delaying for 90 days they spiked back up. COINCIDENCE!!!!!

Now do you see why I am not convinced you know anything about markets. Wow thats a good one Nutsack you must be incredibly thick or on a wind up!! Or both. Probably the latter!

Here you go silly nuts, here is an article from the Associated Press. Ask Goose about the Associated Press he uses them all the time. 

https://apnews.com/article/financial-ma ... 23df450b72#


Nobody is saying that the correction wasn’t caused by Tarrifs, )although Trump did forewarn everyone that he was gonna place reciprocal Tarrifs on April 2nd plenty of times in March, so it wasn’t a surprise.)

But what we had was a Correction. Now stop showing yourself up! 

Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments - for no good reason! But come on it was a massive surprise to the markets as to the ridiculous size and potential impacts to the US economy - otherwise if they knew what was coming those adjustments/corrections would already have been baked in - but they weren't - so yes it was a surprise! Except for you obviously cos you got your finger on it - plus Trumps cronies all made a killing too!

Ok, so you now know what a correction is. Glad I could educate you again.

I came on here and said when I made my investment changes, It’s on the thread, so yeah, I knew it was a buying opportunity, as did plenty of others which is why it has gone back up. When idiots like you were selling I was buying…. Thanks, I appreciate it!

Oh and there wi be more volatility and we will see more corrections, that’s how it works.

And as for “no good reason” I beg to differ, Supply chain issues cause inflation and national security issues have the USA reliant on China for pharmaceuticals, Rare earths and Steel. Two good reasons right there.

Then there’s the trade deficit and loss of US jobs. Two more good reasons.

Then there’s the threat of China becoming the dominant super power as well as all of the Intellectual property and technology they blatantly steal from the USA. More good reasons.

Im sure there are others too.

Again you are showing just what a fuckwit looks like!