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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
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Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 07:51 As for inflation it is down, a lot lower than we had under Biden, it is impossible to know if we see any inflation and if so at what level.
Companies are coming back to the USA for manufacturing, IBM being the latest to announce a significant investment. So far it has been announced that over $5 Trillion will be invested in US jobs.
This is due to Tarrifs.
New trade deals are close to being announced with India expected to being the first. Japan and South Korea being close.
Wait for the new agreements then we will see just how much better off the USA economy will be. My bet is it will be much improved in the UsA’s favour and little to no Tarrifs and no trade barriers and strict enforceable IP laws in place.
And when that happens all you inflationists will disappear.
As for companies front running the Tarris, it’s the smart thing to do, doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen, it just means they are unsure.
Can’t you think or yourself ffs? Do you always believe the propagandists ffs?
It doesn’t take a genius to work out the tariffs mean additional cost. That additional cost means either prices go up or business make less profits.
which one are you picking?
which one are you picking?
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As for inflation it is down, a lot lower than we had under Biden, it is impossible to know if we see any inflation and if so at what level.
Companies are coming back to the USA for manufacturing, IBM being the latest to announce a significant investment. So far it has been announced that over $5 Trillion will be invested in US jobs.
This is due to Tarrifs.
New trade deals are close to being announced with India expected to being the first. Japan and South Korea being close.
Wait for the new agreements then we will see just how much better off the USA economy will be. My bet is it will be much improved in the UsA’s favour and little to no Tarrifs and no trade barriers and strict enforceable IP laws in place.
And when that happens all you inflationists will disappear.
As for companies front running the Tarris, it’s the smart thing to do, doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen, it just means they are unsure.
Can’t you think or yourself ffs? Do you always believe the propagandists ffs?
Companies are coming back to the USA for manufacturing, IBM being the latest to announce a significant investment. So far it has been announced that over $5 Trillion will be invested in US jobs.
This is due to Tarrifs.
New trade deals are close to being announced with India expected to being the first. Japan and South Korea being close.
Wait for the new agreements then we will see just how much better off the USA economy will be. My bet is it will be much improved in the UsA’s favour and little to no Tarrifs and no trade barriers and strict enforceable IP laws in place.
And when that happens all you inflationists will disappear.
As for companies front running the Tarris, it’s the smart thing to do, doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen, it just means they are unsure.
Can’t you think or yourself ffs? Do you always believe the propagandists ffs?
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Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 07:37goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 07:29I tell you what I have learned , and that’s to actually read the thing I’m talking about:
“As we've been reporting, the US economy shrank in the first three months of 2025, according to the latest figures released by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.This was driven by a drop in government spending and a surge in imports - which count against growth - as firms raced to get good into the country ahead of tariffs.”
That was in there from the get-go, as are many other similar commentaries from economists, analysts etc etc.
There’s no win in this like I told you before. The inflationary impact of the tariffs is crystal clear, let’s see how much the American consumer is prepared to swallow.You’re lying again. You posted the link under your “oops” comment. There was no secret that companies were loading up inventory before the Tarrifs kicked in. You just didn’t realize how it affected the GDP numbers negatively.
Here’s some numbers you won’t hear from the BBC.
The USA reports quarterly the Chinese reports every 100 days so we will wait to see their numbers.
Here’s some leading indicators for you.
China’s Copper stockpiles have plummeted to levels of just a few weeks remaining before they are out.
Chinese exports and manufacturing numbers have also fallen off a cliff.
As has shipping activity…….Oops!
It’s an ‘oops’ because it’s tariffs in action. Inflation baked into the market, increasing the possibility of recession and slowing down growth across the globe.
Like I said, nobody wins.
Like I said, nobody wins.
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goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 07:29I tell you what I have learned , and that’s to actually read the thing I’m talking about:
“As we've been reporting, the US economy shrank in the first three months of 2025, according to the latest figures released by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.This was driven by a drop in government spending and a surge in imports - which count against growth - as firms raced to get good into the country ahead of tariffs.”
That was in there from the get-go, as are many other similar commentaries from economists, analysts etc etc.
There’s no win in this like I told you before. The inflationary impact of the tariffs is crystal clear, let’s see how much the American consumer is prepared to swallow.
You’re lying again. You posted the link under your “oops” comment. There was no secret that companies were loading up inventory before the Tarrifs kicked in. You just didn’t realize how it affected the GDP numbers negatively.
Here’s some numbers you won’t hear from the BBC.
The USA reports quarterly the Chinese reports every 100 days so we will wait to see their numbers.
Here’s some leading indicators for you.
China’s Copper stockpiles have plummeted to levels of just a few weeks remaining before they are out.
Chinese exports and manufacturing numbers have also fallen off a cliff.
As has shipping activity…….Oops!
Here’s some numbers you won’t hear from the BBC.
The USA reports quarterly the Chinese reports every 100 days so we will wait to see their numbers.
Here’s some leading indicators for you.
China’s Copper stockpiles have plummeted to levels of just a few weeks remaining before they are out.
Chinese exports and manufacturing numbers have also fallen off a cliff.
As has shipping activity…….Oops!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
I tell you what I have learned , and that’s to actually read the thing I’m talking about:
“As we've been reporting, the US economy shrank in the first three months of 2025, according to the latest figures released by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.This was driven by a drop in government spending and a surge in imports - which count against growth - as firms raced to get good into the country ahead of tariffs.”
That was in there from the get-go, as are many other similar commentaries from economists, analysts etc etc.
There’s no win in this like I told you before. The inflationary impact of the tariffs is crystal clear, let’s see how much the American consumer is prepared to swallow.
“As we've been reporting, the US economy shrank in the first three months of 2025, according to the latest figures released by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.This was driven by a drop in government spending and a surge in imports - which count against growth - as firms raced to get good into the country ahead of tariffs.”
That was in there from the get-go, as are many other similar commentaries from economists, analysts etc etc.
There’s no win in this like I told you before. The inflationary impact of the tariffs is crystal clear, let’s see how much the American consumer is prepared to swallow.
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I read enough. Like usual it didn’t tell the whole story. Which is why you posted it. And there you were thinking you had a win. You’ll never learn. You lap up any propaganda you can find. I wonder how many people it scared into selling their positions in stocks?
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Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 07:04goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 06:58Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 00:36 Here you go Goose,
You have to stop listening to these left wing media outlets, it’s all propaganda and it’s all nonsense.
The following is a tweet from Charlie Kirk.
Feel free to verify CNBC.
The Democrats are out in force this morning claiming the sky is falling and a recession is imminent because GDP shrunk in Q1 by 0.3%. Wrong.
This was a one-off.
CNBC: "Imports soared 41.3% for the quarter, driven by a 50.9% increase in goods. Imports subtract from GDP, so the contraction in growth may not be viewed as negatively given the potential for the trend to reverse in subsequent quarters."
Core GDP was UP 3%
Private investment surged 22%And why do you suppose imports soared? Nothing to do with getting ahead of the tariffs?? What does that tell you about the tariffs?It’s obvious why they soared they were front running the tariffs. So the propaganda BBC article you posted was disingenuous, wasn’t it?
Did you read the article?
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goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 06:58Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 00:36 Here you go Goose,
You have to stop listening to these left wing media outlets, it’s all propaganda and it’s all nonsense.
The following is a tweet from Charlie Kirk.
Feel free to verify CNBC.
The Democrats are out in force this morning claiming the sky is falling and a recession is imminent because GDP shrunk in Q1 by 0.3%. Wrong.
This was a one-off.
CNBC: "Imports soared 41.3% for the quarter, driven by a 50.9% increase in goods. Imports subtract from GDP, so the contraction in growth may not be viewed as negatively given the potential for the trend to reverse in subsequent quarters."
Core GDP was UP 3%
Private investment surged 22%And why do you suppose imports soared? Nothing to do with getting ahead of the tariffs?? What does that tell you about the tariffs?
It’s obvious why they soared they were front running the tariffs. So the propaganda BBC article you posted was disingenuous, wasn’t it?
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Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 00:36 Here you go Goose,
You have to stop listening to these left wing media outlets, it’s all propaganda and it’s all nonsense.
The following is a tweet from Charlie Kirk.
Feel free to verify CNBC.
The Democrats are out in force this morning claiming the sky is falling and a recession is imminent because GDP shrunk in Q1 by 0.3%. Wrong.
This was a one-off.
CNBC: "Imports soared 41.3% for the quarter, driven by a 50.9% increase in goods. Imports subtract from GDP, so the contraction in growth may not be viewed as negatively given the potential for the trend to reverse in subsequent quarters."
Core GDP was UP 3%
Private investment surged 22%
And why do you suppose imports soared? Nothing to do with getting ahead of the tariffs?? What does that tell you about the tariffs?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Here you go Goose,
You have to stop listening to these left wing media outlets, it’s all propaganda and it’s all nonsense.
The following is a tweet from Charlie Kirk.
Feel free to verify CNBC.
The Democrats are out in force this morning claiming the sky is falling and a recession is imminent because GDP shrunk in Q1 by 0.3%. Wrong.
This was a one-off.
CNBC: "Imports soared 41.3% for the quarter, driven by a 50.9% increase in goods. Imports subtract from GDP, so the contraction in growth may not be viewed as negatively given the potential for the trend to reverse in subsequent quarters."
Core GDP was UP 3%
Private investment surged 22%
You have to stop listening to these left wing media outlets, it’s all propaganda and it’s all nonsense.
The following is a tweet from Charlie Kirk.
Feel free to verify CNBC.
The Democrats are out in force this morning claiming the sky is falling and a recession is imminent because GDP shrunk in Q1 by 0.3%. Wrong.
This was a one-off.
CNBC: "Imports soared 41.3% for the quarter, driven by a 50.9% increase in goods. Imports subtract from GDP, so the contraction in growth may not be viewed as negatively given the potential for the trend to reverse in subsequent quarters."
Core GDP was UP 3%
Private investment surged 22%
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑30 Apr 2025, 22:14
He did make me laugh with his comment on how maybe American kids should only need 2 dolls and not 30. Don’t worry about the company that is selling 30 dolls and now only sells 2.He's a fucking moron!
Did you see his interview with Terry "Never heard of You, but chose you" Moran and Trumpsters insistence that Abrego Garcia actually has MS13 tattooed on his knuckles and that it wasnt photoshopped. You literally could not find a more stupid man on this planet! But Nutsack wont hear anything negative about him...!
Big win for Trump and Ukraine. The mineral deal was just signed.
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑30 Apr 2025, 22:14
He did make me laugh with his comment on how maybe American kids should only need 2 dolls and not 30. Don’t worry about the company that is selling 30 dolls and now only sells 2.He's a fucking moron!
Did you see his interview with Terry "Never heard of You, but chose you" Moran and Trumpsters insistence that Abrego Garcia actually has MS13 tattooed on his knuckles and that it wasnt photoshopped. You literally could not find a more stupid man on this planet! But Nutsack wont hear anything negative about him...!
I think anyone pretending Garcia isn't MS13 is far more moronic. Wanting to make him a martyr and pin up boy for the Democrats is even more insane than Starmer welcoming clarity on what a man and a women are.
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He did make me laugh with his comment on how maybe American kids should only need 2 dolls and not 30. Don’t worry about the company that is selling 30 dolls and now only sells 2.
He's a fucking moron!
Did you see his interview with Terry "Never heard of You, but chose you" Moran and Trumpsters insistence that Abrego Garcia actually has MS13 tattooed on his knuckles and that it wasnt photoshopped. You literally could not find a more stupid man on this planet! But Nutsack wont hear anything negative about him...!
Did you see his interview with Terry "Never heard of You, but chose you" Moran and Trumpsters insistence that Abrego Garcia actually has MS13 tattooed on his knuckles and that it wasnt photoshopped. You literally could not find a more stupid man on this planet! But Nutsack wont hear anything negative about him...!
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The numbers will tell that story without question. Balance of trade (especially with China), inflation, jobs & manufacturing/production in some key industries.
He did make me laugh with his comment on how maybe American kids should only need 2 dolls and not 30. Don’t worry about the company that is selling 30 dolls and now only sells 2.
He did make me laugh with his comment on how maybe American kids should only need 2 dolls and not 30. Don’t worry about the company that is selling 30 dolls and now only sells 2.
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Out of interest what’s it gonna take for you to admit Trump was right?
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Your buddy Ray Dalio wasn’t very complimentary about the tariffs and what they will trigger.
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Let’s see the details of his revised trade agreements. Personally I hope we shift away from China and into India. We’ll see.
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Just out of interest, what would it take for you to admit Trump was wrong on tariffs?
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I actually agree with you on this. It’s a stupid mistake, should have kept his mouth shut.
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One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025, 03:45What's your wild, evidence less theory got to do with the subject of the rapist president you support?
Try again in English Cappy. Ffs!
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What's your wild, evidence less theory got to do with the subject of the rapist president you support?