Max Kilman

[Eerie Decent]

This lad is a real problem.

At £40mil, it's getting to the point of worst ever signing territory. The worst crime in football is hiding, centre back is probably the one position you can half get away with it, but not for too long. Shirks taking responsibility, who imo makes him worse than Mavropanos, at least he fronts up, which can lead to mistakes. Kilman doesn't, so it doesn't get highlighted.

We've obviously got a massive overhaul in the summer, but for me, he is the biggest problem in our team and we need to cut our losses if we can. It took a while to spot, because he hides, but you can't fool people for too long. Wolves fans told us, some wouldn't have it, but they were dead right. Absolute fraud of a player.

[Eerie Decent]

Obviously we would all drive him there because we watch him every week, but how the mighty have fallen, with the press linking our 1st team regulars to Crystal fucking Palace.

[Far Cough UKunt]

I'm volunteering to drive Kilman to Palace.

[El Scorchio]

First one mainly seen as Sullivan obstinately wanted Lop so it probably would have been a bit of a fuck you to Stiedten- worked out well eh. Unless he also happened to have a ‘friendly’ agent. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I still can't make any sense of Sullivan sanctioning this transfer under such ludicrous terms unless:

1. It was a non-negotiable condition of Loopy-Lou signing, or,
2. It involves well stuffed, tax-evading brown envelopes discretely hidden behind the left luggage lockers at Victoria coach station on a regular basis, or,
3. All of the above.

From a football perspective, it's clearly absolute pants.

[honky cat]

You know he'll go there and be amazing.
It's the west ham way.

[Lee Trundle]

Could be the best transfer we could ever make if we somehow get him off the books.

[El Scorchio]

From the BBC. 

Crystal Palace have identified West Ham United defender Max Kilman, 28, as a potential replacement for Marc Guehi should the England centre-back leave in the January transfer window. (Football Insider)

Interesting…

[El Scorchio]

Shockingly I think Cresswell was our best CB on Sunday. Absolutely damning on the others to say that. Genuinely think he'll stick just because we'll need him such is our ridiculous situation at the back, and he's a leader/high character guy. And yes, YES it does indicate horribly so that we've been utter utter dogshit in the transfer market and at centre back for far too long, for Cresswell to even be in the manager's thoughts to start a match there at this point in time let alone arguably better out of position than 60 million quids worth of centre back both the best part of ten years younger than him. Any normal club would be saying goodbye and thanks for being such a great servant, but we'll be keeping him.

[eusebiovic]

A shocking deal. He wasn't worth more than £20Million which is the going rate these days for a bang average lumbering oaf. 

The diminutive one got his aris turned inside out like a sausage casing yet again 

[Pshyco scored all 4]

The most angry I've ever seen kilman . Was after his headed goal against us was disallowed.  Playing for wolves.  Last season. 

[Eerie Decent]

Todibo hasn't impressed at all, but we could definitely still get a decent fee for him, based on reputation. 

No-one else would be stupid enough to pay a half decent fee for Kilman. Were lumbered.

[Lee Trundle]

We paid double what Kilman was worth simple as that. Not Kilman's fault mind.

Got to be honest, Todibo did not exactly inspire confidence either on Saturday.  He was supposedly brought for his ability on the ball, to bring it out of defence and having a bit of pace.   Didn't see too much of that although he was a calming influence at times.  Just his pace, he got done several times by that Tel bloke after having a head start. That said, he seemed to visibly slow as the game progressed?  Has he still got a fitness issue in terms of strength and stamina?  Also, he seems a bit lightweight at times?   Im hoping it was just an off day. Lets see how he does remainder of the season.  

What's clear is we need a leader at the back in the form of another CB. The difference Cresswell made with simply barking out instructions of when to get out, when to press, when to cover was a major improvement.  But at 35, we cannot be relying on him next season. THat said, might be tempted to give him a 1 year deal just to ensure there is someone in the squad with a voice.

Giving Cresswell another year's contract is a sign we've failed in the transfer window.  We shouldn't be employing anyone just because they can shout.

[Sir Alf]

We paid double what Kilman was worth simple as that. Not Kilman's fault mind.

Got to be honest, Todibo did not exactly inspire confidence either on Saturday.  He was supposedly brought for his ability on the ball, to bring it out of defence and having a bit of pace.   Didn't see too much of that although he was a calming influence at times.  Just his pace, he got done several times by that Tel bloke after having a head start. That said, he seemed to visibly slow as the game progressed?  Has he still got a fitness issue in terms of strength and stamina?  Also, he seems a bit lightweight at times?   Im hoping it was just an off day. Lets see how he does remainder of the season.  

What's clear is we need a leader at the back in the form of another CB. The difference Cresswell made with simply barking out instructions of when to get out, when to press, when to cover was a major improvement.  But at 35, we cannot be relying on him next season. THat said, might be tempted to give him a 1 year deal just to ensure there is someone in the squad with a voice.

[nychammer]

So we're looking at taking a £20m hit on a player after a year and also paying up 6 years of his contract. We're crying that we are skint already without doing a deal as bad as that. 

He will also need replacing which would eat into even more of the funds we have



 

I doubt he'd be too difficult to replace.  I'm with El Scorch.  We can't have him sitting on the bench taking up wages.  We've had that for the past 2 years with Ings and it hasn't served us well.

I'd take whatever hit we can and move on.  I've seen way too many excuses for him by now.  He isn't good enough.

God when you think about the mediocre players we’ve bought in over recent years and just paid them to warm the bench. It’s really ludicrous in some cases and it’s become an expensive  destructive habit. 

[Lee Trundle]

The maddest bit of all this, is we paid absolutely top tier money for him, because we were in a bidding war with...

Absolutely nobody.

Fucking hell.

He DOUBLED his salary as well, joining us.

Pants pulled right down and buggered.

[Eerie Decent]

The maddest bit of all this, is we paid absolutely top tier money for him, because we were in a bidding war with...

Absolutely nobody.

Fucking hell.

[Lato]

Such a school boy error for the Totspurs goal. When I was a kid I was told launch it in to row z. Not exactly the West Ham way I know, but effective!

[Rossal]

its better to be paying someone to be here than be paying them silly money to not be.  We see start of the season he is capable of some great performances so lets hope and pray he can get back to those levels. Having him as a third choice is no bad thing if we resort back to a back 4. 

Hopefully the clear out and Potter having a full pre season can raise the standards again. 

[Eerie Decent]

This is exactly why, as I stated in my original post, he is the biggest problem. Although the nuance behind that was too much for some to understand. 

We either take a massive hit on him, or we have a £40mil player on huge wages on the bench,  because you can't go into a season with him as a first choice. No way.

Huge, huge problem. The lad is awful, sad but we were warned.

[Rossal]

We just aren't in a situation on or off the pitch to take such a hit. Potter firing a rocket up him during pre season is our best bet 

[Lee Trundle]

So we're looking at taking a £20m hit on a player after a year and also paying up 6 years of his contract. We're crying that we are skint already without doing a deal as bad as that. 

He will also need replacing which would eat into even more of the funds we have


 

I doubt he'd be too difficult to replace.  I'm with El Scorch.  We can't have him sitting on the bench taking up wages.  We've had that for the past 2 years with Ings and it hasn't served us well.

I'd take whatever hit we can and move on.  I've seen way too many excuses for him by now.  He isn't good enough.

[Gank]

So we're looking at taking a £20m hit on a player after a year and also paying up 6 years of his contract. We're crying that we are skint already without doing a deal as bad as that. 

He will also need replacing which would eat into even more of the funds we have


 

The maths just doesn't work out. We're going to have to keep him, maybe Potter and his team can get him playing a bit better, a bit more consistently from the new season but if he stays the same he'll be the best paid substitute we've ever had, knocking Javier Mascherano into second place.

[Rossal]

So we're looking at taking a £20m hit on a player after a year and also paying up 6 years of his contract. We're crying that we are skint already without doing a deal as bad as that. 

He will also need replacing which would eat into even more of the funds we have

 

[Gank]

I don't know if there are any top division clubs well within their PSR parameters, but if there is,they can afford 5.2 million per year in his wages over 6 years making him worth 31 million quid so we would struggle to shift him on a free transfer at that valuation.

[Gary Strodders shank]

Maidenhead s £4m windfall from the Kilman deal didn't do them much good as they have been relegated from the national league.

Alan Devonshire's first relegation as a manager.

Daggers also gone