The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[goose]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

[Massive Attack]

Fucking hell, he's only been back in power a few months and already got a lot done and people are already expecting him to finish wiping the arses of other people's wars he didn't start or get involved in to begin with. 

I'm not sure how anyone can resolve either war instantly but he is at least trying. 

[Fauxstralian]

Trump had an hour & 15mins phone call with Putin last night & got nowhere again 
So much for ending it on day 1
Putin has the Orange cսnt over a barrel & is just playing the half wit 
Should just release the video of Trump being pissed on & give everyone a laugh

[goose]

The two conflicts he promised to put an end to are seeing no signs of stopping.

[Mr Anon]

US Army has met its 2025 recruitment goal four months early. 61,000 new soldiers.

Hegseth and Trump are killing it!

Why do they need them? You said he was a man of Peace and was going to end all conflicts

[Massive Attack]

Look at these cretins eyeballing Pochin like they're all spoiling for a fight before sneering the way that they typically do..



Watch also how Corbyn and the Gaza MP timely leave as she finishes her question, 2 bob wankers.

Now personally I didn't used to have such a strong opinion on banning the Burqa/Niqab as I think people should generally be allowed to wear what they like for the most part, especially out in public. However, I've come to the conclusion that if it's not at all acceptable for say women to wear bikinis in their Countries, then the same logic applies here. Also Thobe's for men and head dresses for women are worn out of respect from westerners when in their Countries as well. So if it's not compatible with our western values and acceptance just as ours isn't in their countries, then tata the Burkas/Niqabs have to go. Don't like it? Then fuck off to where it is acceptable. 

It also chimes in recently with how Kate Abdo was treated when she offered her hand to welcome Khabib, only for him to refuse it based on his beliefs..



Stop the pandering and accepting everything about their traditions over the sake of ours in our own western Countries. Respect and acceptance is a two-way street and if they can't accept that, then they too can get fucked.

[Swiss.]

US Army has met its 2025 recruitment goal four months early. 61,000 new soldiers.

Hegseth and Trump are killing it!

That's because they have no other jobs they can go to thanks to Trump.

[Massive Attack]

The only thing Hegseth is killing is his own reputation for his part in high profile security gaffes.  

[Nutsin]

US Army has met its 2025 recruitment goal four months early. 61,000 new soldiers.

Hegseth and Trump are killing it!

[goose]

Elon is not happy!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sting.html

Pork filled  

[goose]

Looks like Ford is doing nicely.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/03/for ... riffs.html


I also read that Starmer wants to increase spending on defending the UK from a Russian attack, cսnt can’t stop a dinghy ffs.

meanwhile Trumps border policies are a major success, border crossings way down, Fetanyl seizures way down crime collapsing as are Fetanyl associated deaths, won’t be long before rents and housing prices drop with the increase in inventory. Good eh!




 

Did you actually read and understand that article?
Their sales are driven by the employee pricing scheme which is selling old stock at a discount to employees.

Same article also points out that Ford have said prices will have to go up.

The same Ford who suspended their profits guidance because of tariffs? They estimate it will wipe out about $1.5bn EBIT.

Yeah I read that they are killing it, Im sure they won’t offer the employee discount forever so anyone with half a brain would expect prices to normalize at some point, how that affects sales when all its foreign competition will see increases due to Tarriffs if they don’t build in the USA will continue to give them an advantage. Unless of course more auto plants open up in the USA creating even more manufacturing jobs.

Funny I thought we were heading for stagflation.

All these forecasts of doom and gloom, when trade agreements are ongoing is a bit silly don’t you think?

Although it does appear that a 10% flat Tarriff is a thing.

They make about 6% margin on those cars, you think selling them at a discount on credit is “killing it”.

dropping $1.5bn of earnings before tax isn’t “killing it”.

maybe you should email Ford and complain about their forecasts of doom & gloom, because I’m just sharing what they said.

[Nutsin]

Looks like Ford is doing nicely.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/03/for ... riffs.html


I also read that Starmer wants to increase spending on defending the UK from a Russian attack, cսnt can’t stop a dinghy ffs.

meanwhile Trumps border policies are a major success, border crossings way down, Fetanyl seizures way down crime collapsing as are Fetanyl associated deaths, won’t be long before rents and housing prices drop with the increase in inventory. Good eh!



 

Did you actually read and understand that article?
Their sales are driven by the employee pricing scheme which is selling old stock at a discount to employees.

Same article also points out that Ford have said prices will have to go up.

The same Ford who suspended their profits guidance because of tariffs? They estimate it will wipe out about $1.5bn EBIT.

Yeah I read that they are killing it, Im sure they won’t offer the employee discount forever so anyone with half a brain would expect prices to normalize at some point, how that affects sales when all its foreign competition will see increases due to Tarriffs if they don’t build in the USA will continue to give them an advantage. Unless of course more auto plants open up in the USA creating even more manufacturing jobs.

Funny I thought we were heading for stagflation.

All these forecasts of doom and gloom, when trade agreements are ongoing is a bit silly don’t you think?

Although it does appear that a 10% flat Tarriff is a thing.

[goose]

Looks like Ford is doing nicely.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/03/for ... riffs.html


I also read that Starmer wants to increase spending on defending the UK from a Russian attack, cսnt can’t stop a dinghy ffs.

meanwhile Trumps border policies are a major success, border crossings way down, Fetanyl seizures way down crime collapsing as are Fetanyl associated deaths, won’t be long before rents and housing prices drop with the increase in inventory. Good eh!


 

Did you actually read and understand that article?
Their sales are driven by the employee pricing scheme which is selling old stock at a discount to employees.

Same article also points out that Ford have said prices will have to go up.

The same Ford who suspended their profits guidance because of tariffs? They estimate it will wipe out about $1.5bn EBIT.

[Nutsin]

Looks like Ford is doing nicely.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/03/for ... riffs.html


I also read that Starmer wants to increase spending on defending the UK from a Russian attack, cսnt can’t stop a dinghy ffs.

meanwhile Trumps border policies are a major success, border crossings way down, Fetanyl seizures way down crime collapsing as are Fetanyl associated deaths, won’t be long before rents and housing prices drop with the increase in inventory. Good eh!

 

[goose]

And yet looking back over the last 3 months inflation is down.

i have said it will take time for new manufacturing jobs to filter through as new plants and factories need to be established. Nobody with half a brain expects manufacturing jobs to show up immediately ffs!

Actually inflation ticked back up month on month in April.
It went down prior to April, and guess what? There were no tariffs then. Funny that.

Probably best you don’t make all these claims about tariffs bringing manufacturing back to the US then? As the opposite is currently happening.

Yeah the ISM numbers were so bad and matter so much that the stock market ignored it. The Dow Jones, S&P and Nasdaq all finished the day in the green.

Nothing burger! 

Dumb ass!

Inflation is already priced in. Same way that less rate cuts are already priced in. Funnily enough people were able to understand the impact of tariffs and price it in.

YTD the FTSE has out performed all the US indices. Why do suppose that is?

[Nutsin]

you talk of sample size then focus on one part of the country. why ignore philadelphia?

as i said, ISM is widely recognised and widely referred to.
it was also published today and has told a consistent narrative for the past 3 months.
you can chose to ignore it and keep talking about what's going to happen but these are actual costs baked into the supply chains.
you keep saying how manufacturing is going to boom, but in fact the opposite is happening because of tariffs.

speaking of which, i see Trump has extended his tariff pause on some chinese goods.

TACO

And yet looking back over the last 3 months inflation is down.

i have said it will take time for new manufacturing jobs to filter through as new plants and factories need to be established. Nobody with half a brain expects manufacturing jobs to show up immediately ffs!

Actually inflation ticked back up month on month in April.
It went down prior to April, and guess what? There were no tariffs then. Funny that.

Probably best you don’t make all these claims about tariffs bringing manufacturing back to the US then? As the opposite is currently happening.

Yeah the ISM numbers were so bad and matter so much that the stock market ignored it. The Dow Jones, S&P and Nasdaq all finished the day in the green.

Nothing burger! 

Dumb ass!

[Massive Attack]

Taco? Hmm righto

 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

The tariffs are clearly having the desired effect Trump intended, in getting more fair trade and boosting industries on US soil. You can argue for outsourcing jobs for cheap labour, but the reliance on other countries creates a weakness and denies jobs in the US. It's going to get increasingly difficult to deny it over time, as people in the US  become better off.

The US MSM championed a geriatric cancer ridden clown as an economic genius despite investment in the US crumbling, and are now desperately trying to project Trump as the fool for bullying companies to invest again.

As the tide turns, these propaganda 'news' outlets are going to crumble under the weight of their own lies. Like the blatant hypocrisy in trying to make Musk a Nazi, for doing the same gesture they have refused to acknowledge Cory Booker has just done.

[goose]

If you want the real time data you would look at the Atlanta Fed GDPnow data, that was just revised upwards.


ISM uses a small sample size, if you want something more accurate you want something more broad based.

Poor Goose.

you talk of sample size then focus on one part of the country. why ignore philadelphia?

as i said, ISM is widely recognised and widely referred to.
it was also published today and has told a consistent narrative for the past 3 months.
you can chose to ignore it and keep talking about what's going to happen but these are actual costs baked into the supply chains.
you keep saying how manufacturing is going to boom, but in fact the opposite is happening because of tariffs.

speaking of which, i see Trump has extended his tariff pause on some chinese goods.

TACO

And yet looking back over the last 3 months inflation is down.

i have said it will take time for new manufacturing jobs to filter through as new plants and factories need to be established. Nobody with half a brain expects manufacturing jobs to show up immediately ffs!

Actually inflation ticked back up month on month in April.
It went down prior to April, and guess what? There were no tariffs then. Funny that.

Probably best you don’t make all these claims about tariffs bringing manufacturing back to the US then? As the opposite is currently happening.

[Nutsin]

not really as its calculated using interest rate spreads. if you wanna take that data it still tells you that inflation wont come below the 2% target. the 10 year breakeven rate is 2.4%.

the FED themselves have upped the f/c from 2.5% to 2.7%.

for the here and now i'd prefer real live, real time data of what manufacturers are seeing.
there are real life examples all over Walmart of big markups on toys, office supplies, heating pads etc etc.

If you want the real time data you would look at the Atlanta Fed GDPnow data, that was just revised upwards.


ISM uses a small sample size, if you want something more accurate you want something more broad based.

Poor Goose.

you talk of sample size then focus on one part of the country. why ignore philadelphia?

as i said, ISM is widely recognised and widely referred to.
it was also published today and has told a consistent narrative for the past 3 months.
you can chose to ignore it and keep talking about what's going to happen but these are actual costs baked into the supply chains.
you keep saying how manufacturing is going to boom, but in fact the opposite is happening because of tariffs.

speaking of which, i see Trump has extended his tariff pause on some chinese goods.

TACO

And yet looking back over the last 3 months inflation is down.

i have said it will take time for new manufacturing jobs to filter through as new plants and factories need to be established. Nobody with half a brain expects manufacturing jobs to show up immediately ffs!

[goose]

 

If you want a leading indicator for inflation you would want to use this. It’s more accurate.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T5YIFR

Hope this helps.

not really as its calculated using interest rate spreads. if you wanna take that data it still tells you that inflation wont come below the 2% target. the 10 year breakeven rate is 2.4%.

the FED themselves have upped the f/c from 2.5% to 2.7%.

for the here and now i'd prefer real live, real time data of what manufacturers are seeing.
there are real life examples all over Walmart of big markups on toys, office supplies, heating pads etc etc.

If you want the real time data you would look at the Atlanta Fed GDPnow data, that was just revised upwards.


ISM uses a small sample size, if you want something more accurate you want something more broad based.

Poor Goose.

you talk of sample size then focus on one part of the country. why ignore philadelphia?

as i said, ISM is widely recognised and widely referred to.
it was also published today and has told a consistent narrative for the past 3 months.
you can chose to ignore it and keep talking about what's going to happen but these are actual costs baked into the supply chains.
you keep saying how manufacturing is going to boom, but in fact the opposite is happening because of tariffs.

speaking of which, i see Trump has extended his tariff pause on some chinese goods.

TACO

[Nutsin]

errrmmm your hero Mr Trump brought up the ridiculous idea of making iphones in the US. He chose to use it as an example, all i'm doing is pointing out how ridiculous the idea is.

ISM is widely recognised as a warning sign of inflation. It spiked late 2020 and early 2021 as a signal of cost pressures. Are you saying its wrong?

The only area i've picked is COGS inflation driven by tariffs - which the ISM data is showing.
Same story from Walmart, Target, Macy's, Adidas, Microsoft, Nike etc etc.
Do you think they sound silly too?

 

If you want a leading indicator for inflation you would want to use this. It’s more accurate.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T5YIFR

Hope this helps.

not really as its calculated using interest rate spreads. if you wanna take that data it still tells you that inflation wont come below the 2% target. the 10 year breakeven rate is 2.4%.

the FED themselves have upped the f/c from 2.5% to 2.7%.

for the here and now i'd prefer real live, real time data of what manufacturers are seeing.
there are real life examples all over Walmart of big markups on toys, office supplies, heating pads etc etc.

If you want the real time data you would look at the Atlanta Fed GDPnow data, that was just revised upwards.


ISM uses a small sample size, if you want something more accurate you want something more broad based.

Poor Goose.

[goose]

You’re the one picking one area all the time.

eg: I phones being made in the USA.

 Ow it’s the ISM numbers, 

Hopefully
now you realize just how silly you sound. 

although I doubt it.

errrmmm your hero Mr Trump brought up the ridiculous idea of making iphones in the US. He chose to use it as an example, all i'm doing is pointing out how ridiculous the idea is.

ISM is widely recognised as a warning sign of inflation. It spiked late 2020 and early 2021 as a signal of cost pressures. Are you saying its wrong?

The only area i've picked is COGS inflation driven by tariffs - which the ISM data is showing.
Same story from Walmart, Target, Macy's, Adidas, Microsoft, Nike etc etc.
Do you think they sound silly too?

 

If you want a leading indicator for inflation you would want to use this. It’s more accurate.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T5YIFR

Hope this helps.

not really as its calculated using interest rate spreads. if you wanna take that data it still tells you that inflation wont come below the 2% target. the 10 year breakeven rate is 2.4%.

the FED themselves have upped the f/c from 2.5% to 2.7%.

for the here and now i'd prefer real live, real time data of what manufacturers are seeing.
there are real life examples all over Walmart of big markups on toys, office supplies, heating pads etc etc.

[Nutsin]

Philadelphia revised theirs down from 2.1% to 1.5%. Not so good eh?

You can pick one area of you like, but the full year FOMC fcast is for 1.7% growth, revised down from 2.1% previously.

You’re the one picking one area all the time.

eg: I phones being made in the USA.

 Ow it’s the ISM numbers, 

Hopefully
now you realize just how silly you sound. 

although I doubt it.

errrmmm your hero Mr Trump brought up the ridiculous idea of making iphones in the US. He chose to use it as an example, all i'm doing is pointing out how ridiculous the idea is.

ISM is widely recognised as a warning sign of inflation. It spiked late 2020 and early 2021 as a signal of cost pressures. Are you saying its wrong?

The only area i've picked is COGS inflation driven by tariffs - which the ISM data is showing.
Same story from Walmart, Target, Macy's, Adidas, Microsoft, Nike etc etc.
Do you think they sound silly too?

 

 

If you want a leading indicator for inflation you would want to use this. It’s more accurate.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T5YIFR

Hope this helps.

[goose]

Philadelphia revised theirs down from 2.1% to 1.5%. Not so good eh?

You can pick one area of you like, but the full year FOMC fcast is for 1.7% growth, revised down from 2.1% previously.

You’re the one picking one area all the time.

eg: I phones being made in the USA.

 Ow it’s the ISM numbers, 

Hopefully
now you realize just how silly you sound. 

although I doubt it.

errrmmm your hero Mr Trump brought up the ridiculous idea of making iphones in the US. He chose to use it as an example, all i'm doing is pointing out how ridiculous the idea is.

ISM is widely recognised as a warning sign of inflation. It spiked late 2020 and early 2021 as a signal of cost pressures. Are you saying its wrong?

The only area i've picked is COGS inflation driven by tariffs - which the ISM data is showing.
Same story from Walmart, Target, Macy's, Adidas, Microsoft, Nike etc etc.
Do you think they sound silly too?