The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Lee Trundle]

It doesn't matter how he beat her, does it?

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If the alternative to   Trump was so terrifying how did he only beat her by 1.5% in terms of the popular vote and to that end why did circa M75 Americans vote for her?

[only1billybonds]

He ( Trump) got in because the alternative was fucking terrifying.

[Lee Trundle]

The other option was Harris and the democrats, who were much worse.  That's why he got in.  I doubt it was because of much of what he said.

[goose]

I'm familiar with us not being in the USA.

It's a hypothetical question, as a US voter how do you trust what he says he's going to do when he has form for "mis-speaking"?

[Lee Trundle]

But how can you do that when he is campaigning to be President? Do you disregard what he says?

If you can't vote in America, then yeah.  He's talking to the American public, not you.

[Massive Attack]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

 

 just judge him on what he's done then.

 

 

That's been my approach with Trump when in power. A lot of what he says is guff and said for effect, that cannot always be taken seriously. However after all is said and done and you look back on what has happened is when to judge him.  

[goose]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

 

Probably best you don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth and just judge him on what he's done then.

He's much better than Biden, and better than Harris was ever going to be.

But how can you do that when he is campaigning to be President? Do you disregard what he says?

Biden was a terrible President, but how do you want to benchmark him vs Trump? GDP growth? Inflation? On paper GDP grew more under Biden vs Trumps first term - but COVID skews a lot of that.

[Lee Trundle]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

 

 

Probably best you don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth and just judge him on what he's done then.

He's much better than Biden, and better than Harris was ever going to be.

[goose]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

 

Agreed. Then name a Politician that says shit they then don't manage to achieve once in power.. They're all at it and have to take some of what they say with a pinch of salt. 

Most politicians won't give you a straight answer on stuff like this, because they know how difficult it is. They won't give you a number or a date, they will talk around issues.

Credit for trying to give a straight answer, but what Trump said is just dumb.

[Massive Attack]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

 

 

Agreed. Then name a Politician that says shit they then don't manage to achieve once in power.. They're all at it and have to take some of what they say with a pinch of salt. 

[Council Scum]

He appears to be trying to allow Putin to take the bits of Ukraine he wants while extorting the minerals from Ukraine
While helping Israel finish their genocide of Palestine so he can build a Trump resort hotel 
Got to be a Nobel Peace Prize in that!

Other than the odd wet blanket, I doubt you'll find anyone would care if that was the outcome of all of it. 

[Fauxstralian]

He appears to be trying to allow Putin to take the bits of Ukraine he wants while extorting the minerals from Ukraine
While helping Israel finish their genocide of Palestine so he can build a Trump resort hotel 
Got to be a Nobel Peace Prize in that!

[goose]

Probably best he doesn’t claim he’s going to end them in a day then?

[Massive Attack]

Fucking hell, he's only been back in power a few months and already got a lot done and people are already expecting him to finish wiping the arses of other people's wars he didn't start or get involved in to begin with. 

I'm not sure how anyone can resolve either war instantly but he is at least trying. 

[Fauxstralian]

Trump had an hour & 15mins phone call with Putin last night & got nowhere again 
So much for ending it on day 1
Putin has the Orange cսnt over a barrel & is just playing the half wit 
Should just release the video of Trump being pissed on & give everyone a laugh

[goose]

The two conflicts he promised to put an end to are seeing no signs of stopping.

[Mr Anon]

US Army has met its 2025 recruitment goal four months early. 61,000 new soldiers.

Hegseth and Trump are killing it!

Why do they need them? You said he was a man of Peace and was going to end all conflicts

[Massive Attack]

Look at these cretins eyeballing Pochin like they're all spoiling for a fight before sneering the way that they typically do..



Watch also how Corbyn and the Gaza MP timely leave as she finishes her question, 2 bob wankers.

Now personally I didn't used to have such a strong opinion on banning the Burqa/Niqab as I think people should generally be allowed to wear what they like for the most part, especially out in public. However, I've come to the conclusion that if it's not at all acceptable for say women to wear bikinis in their Countries, then the same logic applies here. Also Thobe's for men and head dresses for women are worn out of respect from westerners when in their Countries as well. So if it's not compatible with our western values and acceptance just as ours isn't in their countries, then tata the Burkas/Niqabs have to go. Don't like it? Then fuck off to where it is acceptable. 

It also chimes in recently with how Kate Abdo was treated when she offered her hand to welcome Khabib, only for him to refuse it based on his beliefs..



Stop the pandering and accepting everything about their traditions over the sake of ours in our own western Countries. Respect and acceptance is a two-way street and if they can't accept that, then they too can get fucked.

[Swiss.]

US Army has met its 2025 recruitment goal four months early. 61,000 new soldiers.

Hegseth and Trump are killing it!

That's because they have no other jobs they can go to thanks to Trump.

[Massive Attack]

The only thing Hegseth is killing is his own reputation for his part in high profile security gaffes.  

[Nutsin]

US Army has met its 2025 recruitment goal four months early. 61,000 new soldiers.

Hegseth and Trump are killing it!

[goose]

Elon is not happy!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sting.html

Pork filled  

[goose]

Looks like Ford is doing nicely.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/03/for ... riffs.html


I also read that Starmer wants to increase spending on defending the UK from a Russian attack, cսnt can’t stop a dinghy ffs.

meanwhile Trumps border policies are a major success, border crossings way down, Fetanyl seizures way down crime collapsing as are Fetanyl associated deaths, won’t be long before rents and housing prices drop with the increase in inventory. Good eh!




 

Did you actually read and understand that article?
Their sales are driven by the employee pricing scheme which is selling old stock at a discount to employees.

Same article also points out that Ford have said prices will have to go up.

The same Ford who suspended their profits guidance because of tariffs? They estimate it will wipe out about $1.5bn EBIT.

Yeah I read that they are killing it, Im sure they won’t offer the employee discount forever so anyone with half a brain would expect prices to normalize at some point, how that affects sales when all its foreign competition will see increases due to Tarriffs if they don’t build in the USA will continue to give them an advantage. Unless of course more auto plants open up in the USA creating even more manufacturing jobs.

Funny I thought we were heading for stagflation.

All these forecasts of doom and gloom, when trade agreements are ongoing is a bit silly don’t you think?

Although it does appear that a 10% flat Tarriff is a thing.

They make about 6% margin on those cars, you think selling them at a discount on credit is “killing it”.

dropping $1.5bn of earnings before tax isn’t “killing it”.

maybe you should email Ford and complain about their forecasts of doom & gloom, because I’m just sharing what they said.

[Nutsin]

Looks like Ford is doing nicely.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/03/for ... riffs.html


I also read that Starmer wants to increase spending on defending the UK from a Russian attack, cսnt can’t stop a dinghy ffs.

meanwhile Trumps border policies are a major success, border crossings way down, Fetanyl seizures way down crime collapsing as are Fetanyl associated deaths, won’t be long before rents and housing prices drop with the increase in inventory. Good eh!



 

Did you actually read and understand that article?
Their sales are driven by the employee pricing scheme which is selling old stock at a discount to employees.

Same article also points out that Ford have said prices will have to go up.

The same Ford who suspended their profits guidance because of tariffs? They estimate it will wipe out about $1.5bn EBIT.

Yeah I read that they are killing it, Im sure they won’t offer the employee discount forever so anyone with half a brain would expect prices to normalize at some point, how that affects sales when all its foreign competition will see increases due to Tarriffs if they don’t build in the USA will continue to give them an advantage. Unless of course more auto plants open up in the USA creating even more manufacturing jobs.

Funny I thought we were heading for stagflation.

All these forecasts of doom and gloom, when trade agreements are ongoing is a bit silly don’t you think?

Although it does appear that a 10% flat Tarriff is a thing.