Sullivan out!

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

[Keep dreaming]

Fookin ell Gank

[Gank]

What can I say, I love West Ham and I can summon an erection at will.

[Sir Alf]

Yep big respect to you Gank ( *** doffs cap ***) 
You can have the old scaffold board that the builders left at my gaff?  Strap it very very securely to your arse arsecheeks !  Health and safety and all that. 

[Massive Attack]

Give me all the money in the WHO fund and I'll use it to pull Brady. I'll keep her busy in bed and away from the club.



 

You're sick in the head to go with that in the sack.

You do however go way up in my estimations for taking one for the WHU Team, you sick puppy.

[Gank]

Give me all the money in the WHO fund and I'll use it to pull Brady. I'll keep her busy in bed and away from the club.

Then when I cast her off after a year or so, she won't be able to go back to Paul and her life will be ruined. Without her, Sullivan won't be able to impact anywhere near as much and he'll just sell to the highest bidder.

Uncle Gank sorts your problems

[GBHammer63]

I read earlier that Mark Noble has said “judge us at the end of the transfer window” I seem to recall him uttering the words “this club is not run like a circus anymore” a while back. I hope not, bit it sounds very much like Nobes has been drinking Sullys bath water. Soapy fucker.

[El Scorchio]

There have been opportunities for Sullivan and Brady (and Gold when alive) to make a positive difference. 
When we moved from The Boleyn to Stratford not only was there an injection of cash but also a dramatically restructured (lower) cost base.
I seem to recall that we were told that this money was used to reduce debt and pay back director loans.
With a bit of foresight, however investment of some of that money could have been made in a proper training facility. It wasn't.
With a bit of foresight investment could have been made in a director of football and enhancing the infrastructure of the club, enlarging the scouting network and improving the data analysis capability. People like Brian Marwood, then at City; Dan Ashworth; Edu; etc. as well as clubs across Europe were implementing this structure. GSB did not bother. Settling for short term gain. 
There was a second bite of this cherry when Kretinsky came on board. West Ham declined to join.
The clubs that did adopt this approach are now reaping the financial rewards such an approach brings. European football; state of the art training facilities; attracting and retaining top talent, or selling it on at a profit.
GSB, Brady in particular, sold a "dream" "World Class Team in a World Class Stadium with World Class Transport Links." 
This could have been a vision that formed the basis of putting in place an infrastructure to deliver success. As it is, it is this was simply a sound bite for the masses with no substance at all, probably script written for her.
I feel insulted when we are told there is no money. If that is the case the blame sits with the board for their poor stewardship.
I feel insulted when I am told the Likes of Alvarez; Paqueta (if not banned) and Kudus must be sold to buy unknowns from Scandinavia or scavenging around the bins of the likes of Burnley and Southampton. Don't you build your team around the best players rather than flog them to buy inferior ones?
I find it ridiculous that we employ managers who can actively reduce the value of these players, just as they did with Anderson; Haller; Scammaca and Aguerd.  
I feel insulted when the likes of Bournemouth; Brighton; Brentford are shown up as not only having better training facilities but a better infrastructure to attract and secure talent. What is their history? What are their "World Class" credentials? They have vision, strategy, tactics and infrastructure to deliver the short, medium and long term objectives and the intelligence to be agile in a changing world.  
I feel insulted when the perception of our manager and their style of play is reported by suggested, prospective transfer targets as being unattractive. I understand it but we are the academy of football FFS.
I am sure Brady and Sullivan would be absolutely delighted if the club were successful. In their roles however it is their jobs to make that happen. They have proven beyond doubt unwilling and incapable of that.
The petition is a start, the FSA survey will likely give Brady in particular some real home truths about her "deal of the century".
It would be nice to see this circus pack up it's tent and fuck off.    

 

 

Yup, in terms of the playing side of the club it's all geared toward the here and now with absolutely zero long term thinking or planning, Has been for the whole time they've been in charge. Every time they've managed to luck out of a crisis one way or another and into some success, they have absolutely sleepwalked into another one through zero consolidation or desire to build. It's all reactive and never proactive. Sullivan can't get his head round buying a player for the future rather than the absolute here and now. When your owner doesn't believe in that, you're absolutely doomed because it's never, ever going to change, meanwhile club after club are leapfrogging us with far less resource by embracing forward thinking and long term planning. 

[Keep dreaming]

There have been opportunities for Sullivan and Brady (and Gold when alive) to make a positive difference. 
When we moved from The Boleyn to Stratford not only was there an injection of cash but also a dramatically restructured (lower) cost base.
I seem to recall that we were told that this money was used to reduce debt and pay back director loans.
With a bit of foresight, however investment of some of that money could have been made in a proper training facility. It wasn't.
With a bit of foresight investment could have been made in a director of football and enhancing the infrastructure of the club, enlarging the scouting network and improving the data analysis capability. People like Brian Marwood, then at City; Dan Ashworth; Edu; etc. as well as clubs across Europe were implementing this structure. GSB did not bother. Settling for short term gain. 
There was a second bite of this cherry when Kretinsky came on board. West Ham declined to join.
The clubs that did adopt this approach are now reaping the financial rewards such an approach brings. European football; state of the art training facilities; attracting and retaining top talent, or selling it on at a profit.
GSB, Brady in particular, sold a "dream" "World Class Team in a World Class Stadium with World Class Transport Links." 
This could have been a vision that formed the basis of putting in place an infrastructure to deliver success. As it is, it is this was simply a sound bite for the masses with no substance at all, probably script written for her.
I feel insulted when we are told there is no money. If that is the case the blame sits with the board for their poor stewardship.
I feel insulted when I am told the Likes of Alvarez; Paqueta (if not banned) and Kudus must be sold to buy unknowns from Scandinavia or scavenging around the bins of the likes of Burnley and Southampton. Don't you build your team around the best players rather than flog them to buy inferior ones?
I find it ridiculous that we employ managers who can actively reduce the value of these players, just as they did with Anderson; Haller; Scammaca and Aguerd.  
I feel insulted when the likes of Bournemouth; Brighton; Brentford are shown up as not only having better training facilities but a better infrastructure to attract and secure talent. What is their history? What are their "World Class" credentials? They have vision, strategy, tactics and infrastructure to deliver the short, medium and long term objectives and the intelligence to be agile in a changing world.  
I feel insulted when the perception of our manager and their style of play is reported by suggested, prospective transfer targets as being unattractive. I understand it but we are the academy of football FFS.
I am sure Brady and Sullivan would be absolutely delighted if the club were successful. In their roles however it is their jobs to make that happen. They have proven beyond doubt unwilling and incapable of that.
The petition is a start, the FSA survey will likely give Brady in particular some real home truths about her "deal of the century".
It would be nice to see this circus pack up it's tent and fuck off.    

Or the fans could set the Circus tent on fire and Hound the cunts out.
They are getting far to little stick

[Pshyco scored all 4]

I think we're close to the end . Sullivan is potless and nobody's buying his property's around London. Only thing that can maintain his lifestyle is the sale of the hammers .  

[ATHammer]

There have been opportunities for Sullivan and Brady (and Gold when alive) to make a positive difference. 
When we moved from The Boleyn to Stratford not only was there an injection of cash but also a dramatically restructured (lower) cost base.
I seem to recall that we were told that this money was used to reduce debt and pay back director loans.
With a bit of foresight, however investment of some of that money could have been made in a proper training facility. It wasn't.
With a bit of foresight investment could have been made in a director of football and enhancing the infrastructure of the club, enlarging the scouting network and improving the data analysis capability. People like Brian Marwood, then at City; Dan Ashworth; Edu; etc. as well as clubs across Europe were implementing this structure. GSB did not bother. Settling for short term gain. 
There was a second bite of this cherry when Kretinsky came on board. West Ham declined to join.
The clubs that did adopt this approach are now reaping the financial rewards such an approach brings. European football; state of the art training facilities; attracting and retaining top talent, or selling it on at a profit.
GSB, Brady in particular, sold a "dream" "World Class Team in a World Class Stadium with World Class Transport Links." 
This could have been a vision that formed the basis of putting in place an infrastructure to deliver success. As it is, it is this was simply a sound bite for the masses with no substance at all, probably script written for her.
I feel insulted when we are told there is no money. If that is the case the blame sits with the board for their poor stewardship.
I feel insulted when I am told the Likes of Alvarez; Paqueta (if not banned) and Kudus must be sold to buy unknowns from Scandinavia or scavenging around the bins of the likes of Burnley and Southampton. Don't you build your team around the best players rather than flog them to buy inferior ones?
I find it ridiculous that we employ managers who can actively reduce the value of these players, just as they did with Anderson; Haller; Scammaca and Aguerd.  
I feel insulted when the likes of Bournemouth; Brighton; Brentford are shown up as not only having better training facilities but a better infrastructure to attract and secure talent. What is their history? What are their "World Class" credentials? They have vision, strategy, tactics and infrastructure to deliver the short, medium and long term objectives and the intelligence to be agile in a changing world.  
I feel insulted when the perception of our manager and their style of play is reported by suggested, prospective transfer targets as being unattractive. I understand it but we are the academy of football FFS.
I am sure Brady and Sullivan would be absolutely delighted if the club were successful. In their roles however it is their jobs to make that happen. They have proven beyond doubt unwilling and incapable of that.
The petition is a start, the FSA survey will likely give Brady in particular some real home truths about her "deal of the century".
It would be nice to see this circus pack up it's tent and fuck off.    

[Fauxstralian]

The secret of football club ownership is deep pockets and hiring good football people to develop a strategy and carry it out
The worst is owners who think they understand the game and players and insert themselves into the process
That’s Sullivan
Should restrict himself to mucky books & dildos
Is there anyone on our board who you’d class as a football person?

[GBHammer63]

It’s possible that Sullivan and Brady would love it if we were a prospering club, but while things are going well for him he sees no reason or hasn’t got the drive anymore for change even though the rest of the division has already changed - he’s comfortable doing the same thing and doesn’t trust anybody other than the fraud Brady to be let in. It’s an ever decreasing circle. As someone posted the other day, it’s time to make it very uncomfortable for the pair of them, it’s the only way, expose the pair of them to hostility and things could change, it was clear how uncomfortable they were after the Burnley game, we were so close when Covid saved them. Cost us another 6 years of these cunts.

[Gank]

85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

8.5m for a 20m player? That is a lot for a World Class negotiator securing world class talent at this point in the window. 
Create a lot of smoke and mirrors; work tirelessly on making ludicrous bids early on which we just, miraculously, miss out on. 
After all, we do a lot of our "best business" at the end of the transfer window when the deadbeats that the usual suspects can't shift are offered back to Dear old Dave.
Just be patient.
I am sure that the apologists will refer to last years Wan Bissaka deal but I won't buy it.
Sell the best players, get in some deadbeats with no pre season, blame Macaulay and Potter, sack both around Christmas when results reflect the great man's strategy and, provided there are three worse teams than us a job well done by DS.
Don's clown suit and heads back to the circus ring.
  

https://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham ... -distance/

Who is that Martin Treasure bloke who posts on Claret & Hugh?  He's just mentioned this very shitty bid like it's a genius bit of negotiating. I'll have a flat white please. That will be £3.80 sir. How about I give you £1.50 and some incentives to make me piss through the one eyed lizard in future?

He has a very jolly picture but his articles are really starting to make my piss boil...

That Martin Treasure is good at writing headlines, he's always snaring me with them, and every single one of the articles that he coaxes me in is absolutely shit and usually just his musings on some small matters.

[eusebiovic]

85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

8.5m for a 20m player? That is a lot for a World Class negotiator securing world class talent at this point in the window. 
Create a lot of smoke and mirrors; work tirelessly on making ludicrous bids early on which we just, miraculously, miss out on. 
After all, we do a lot of our "best business" at the end of the transfer window when the deadbeats that the usual suspects can't shift are offered back to Dear old Dave.
Just be patient.
I am sure that the apologists will refer to last years Wan Bissaka deal but I won't buy it.
Sell the best players, get in some deadbeats with no pre season, blame Macaulay and Potter, sack both around Christmas when results reflect the great man's strategy and, provided there are three worse teams than us a job well done by DS.
Don's clown suit and heads back to the circus ring.
  

https://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham ... -distance/

Who is that Martin Treasure bloke who posts on Claret & Hugh?  He's just mentioned this very shitty bid like it's a genius bit of negotiating. I'll have a flat white please. That will be £3.80 sir. How about I give you £1.50 and some incentives to make me piss through the one eyed lizard in future?

He has a very jolly picture but his articles are really starting to make my piss boil...

[Mike Oxsaw]

I suspect Sullivan is gambling on empty seats in the stadium being filled by tourists eager to get a slice of Brand PL, not Brand West Ham.

Either way he sees it as a win-win on account of a one-time tourist being much more likely than an old skooler to buy "souvenirs" (read half-and-half scarves/bobble hats) from the club shop every game to take home with them.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

 

I haven't even looked at who he has low ball bid for this time. I honestly can't be arsed. It is what I expect.
Your point on over paying for garbage is excellent. Sullivan spends a lot of club money but invests fuck all.
This current "we are skint" thing would see most CEO's and their FD's fucked off down the road given the time and advantages they have had and the tools at their disposal. 
My point is fundamental. World Class Team in a World Class Stadium. Sullivan and Brady have had ample time to deliver on that promise and they haven't; neither have they shown any intention of doing so. Survival will do nicely to keep their gravy train rolling.
A few shit signings and a few shit managers. When we do find some pearls then we have the managers to devalue them then try to flog them before the value disappears completely. It is always someone else's fault when the result is, well, shit.
The ground is a disgrace; the training facilities a disgrace; and the standard of play and results for a team with the second highest attendance in the premier league a disgrace.  
BS are unfit and incapable of running our great club and, whilst they protect the legacy of a long line of shysters, that doesn't mean we, as supporters, shouldn't hold them to account for their continually falling short of providing what we, as supporters, are due and what they promised.  

Great post. Mine wasn't meant to sound dismissive of yours. As like you I pay almost no attention to transfer gossip nowadays. It's the finalised ones that matter, albeit the failures can waste valuable time and  lead us down strange paths scrambling to find willing signings and it deserves scrutiny. 

It's just too embarrassing for me now to watch how we continually operate, with little to no structure or ethos regarding recruitment, or long term building. We look like we're on the cusp of the type of mess we were in when G&S took over than resurrecting the club to competing for European spots again.

As much as I understand how much the stadium is hated by many, it's actually one of the only modern elements we have to show players we're an attractive proposition, showcasing we have massive support.  That support keeps us afloat in the PL, as we have a big financial advantage over newly promoted teams. The question is how long before fans start turning away in big enough numbers it reduces that advantage?

[El Scorchio]

85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

Post editing is time limited but you should be able to.

Ah gotcha- thanks! I see it sometimes and sometimes not. Couldn’t work it out. 

[Johansson]

Absolutely nailed it!

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Survival will do nicely to keep their gravy train rolling."

Encouraging to see that someone else has finally put into words something I've been saying almost since Sullivan bought the club.

I expect that, like Brown before him, he uses the club and it's facilities to impress those outside football he does business with and so PL survival is all that matters.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

 

I haven't even looked at who he has low ball bid for this time. I honestly can't be arsed. It is what I expect.
Your point on over paying for garbage is excellent. Sullivan spends a lot of club money but invests fuck all.
This current "we are skint" thing would see most CEO's and their FD's fucked off down the road given the time and advantages they have had and the tools at their disposal. 
My point is fundamental. World Class Team in a World Class Stadium. Sullivan and Brady have had ample time to deliver on that promise and they haven't; neither have they shown any intention of doing so. Survival will do nicely to keep their gravy train rolling.
A few shit signings and a few shit managers. When we do find some pearls then we have the managers to devalue them then try to flog them before the value disappears completely. It is always someone else's fault when the result is, well, shit.
The ground is a disgrace; the training facilities a disgrace; and the standard of play and results for a team with the second highest attendance in the premier league a disgrace.  
BS are unfit and incapable of running our great club and, whilst they protect the legacy of a long line of shysters, that doesn't mean we, as supporters, shouldn't hold them to account for their continually falling short of providing what we, as supporters, are due and what they promised.  

Have been some excellent posts on this thread, none more so than this.

[ATHammer]

To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

 

 

I haven't even looked at who he has low ball bid for this time. I honestly can't be arsed. It is what I expect.
Your point on over paying for garbage is excellent. Sullivan spends a lot of club money but invests fuck all.
This current "we are skint" thing would see most CEO's and their FD's fucked off down the road given the time and advantages they have had and the tools at their disposal. 
My point is fundamental. World Class Team in a World Class Stadium. Sullivan and Brady have had ample time to deliver on that promise and they haven't; neither have they shown any intention of doing so. Survival will do nicely to keep their gravy train rolling.
A few shit signings and a few shit managers. When we do find some pearls then we have the managers to devalue them then try to flog them before the value disappears completely. It is always someone else's fault when the result is, well, shit.
The ground is a disgrace; the training facilities a disgrace; and the standard of play and results for a team with the second highest attendance in the premier league a disgrace.  
BS are unfit and incapable of running our great club and, whilst they protect the legacy of a long line of shysters, that doesn't mean we, as supporters, shouldn't hold them to account for their continually falling short of providing what we, as supporters, are due and what they promised.  

[stubbo]

85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

Post editing is time limited but you should be able to.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

[Mike Oxsaw]

85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

8.5m for a 20m player? That is a lot for a World Class negotiator securing world class talent at this point in the window. 
Create a lot of smoke and mirrors; work tirelessly on making ludicrous bids early on which we just, miraculously, miss out on. 
After all, we do a lot of our "best business" at the end of the transfer window when the deadbeats that the usual suspects can't shift are offered back to Dear old Dave.
Just be patient.
I am sure that the apologists will refer to last years Wan Bissaka deal but I won't buy it.
Sell the best players, get in some deadbeats with no pre season, blame Macaulay and Potter, sack both around Christmas when results reflect the great man's strategy and, provided there are three worse teams than us a job well done by DS.
Don's clown suit and heads back to the circus ring.
  

Fully agree with that, but you left out one vital, indisputable aspect:  we're football fans which means, by default, that we're too fucking stupid to work out what's really going on.

I mean, none of us have owned and/or ran businesses, none of us have worked in finance or public relations/the media and none of us have the ability to understand statistics and identify (obvious) trends.

[ATHammer]

85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

8.5m for a 20m player? That is a lot for a World Class negotiator securing world class talent at this point in the window. 
Create a lot of smoke and mirrors; work tirelessly on making ludicrous bids early on which we just, miraculously, miss out on. 
After all, we do a lot of our "best business" at the end of the transfer window when the deadbeats that the usual suspects can't shift are offered back to Dear old Dave.
Just be patient.
I am sure that the apologists will refer to last years Wan Bissaka deal but I won't buy it.
Sell the best players, get in some deadbeats with no pre season, blame Macaulay and Potter, sack both around Christmas when results reflect the great man's strategy and, provided there are three worse teams than us a job well done by DS.
Don's clown suit and heads back to the circus ring.