2025 European Championships * *womens

[Fauxstralian]

Starts on Wednesday , holders England kick off against France on Saturday
Hosts Switzerland prepared by losing 7-1 to an u15 Lucerne boys team

[El Scorchio]

Haven’t watched any of it … watching the tennis & cricket at this time of the year
Genuine question … how many England fans have travelled to Switzerland for this?
Obviously it’s tens of thousands for England men at the WC or Euros
Lots of women telling us how great women’s football is , and it has progressed in the last decade, but they need to be putting their hands in their pockets & going to games every week
Seem to fill Wembley for big England games (at low prices) or games like Spurs v Arsenal at the main stadia but otherwise there is a lot of tumbleweed in the stands
Perhaps West Ham could produce a P&L ?

This for me is the biggest paradox about women’s sport. We are forever being told as men that we should support it more and we are letting everyone down, but most of the people dishing out the lectures don’t bother going either. If more women put their money where their mouth is and actually went to watch sport live, it would be far far healthier. 

[honky cat]

I was eavesdropping on a group at the airport last week. It was a stag going over for a long weekend and to catch a few games . .   They seemed good normal lads, not everyone wants seedy or disgusting on their stag. So id say it's lots of fun to attend. I felt like asking if I could come along. 

[Mex Martillo]

My niece and a friend have travelled
You can see later, I’m sure it’ll be well attended, other games have been.
All football should be low prices! Money grabbing cunts ripping us off.

[Fauxstralian]

Haven’t watched any of it … watching the tennis & cricket at this time of the year
Genuine question … how many England fans have travelled to Switzerland for this?
Obviously it’s tens of thousands for England men at the WC or Euros
Lots of women telling us how great women’s football is , and it has progressed in the last decade, but they need to be putting their hands in their pockets & going to games every week
Seem to fill Wembley for big England games (at low prices) or games like Spurs v Arsenal at the main stadia but otherwise there is a lot of tumbleweed in the stands
Perhaps West Ham could produce a P&L ?

[Mex Martillo]

I guess interest will decline impressively if the Lionesses don't get a result against the Netherlands at 5pm!

Such weird closed opinions from some of you. Of course women can play football. Money fucks all football up for women and men and it's not the fans fault. Let's get on with the tournament. Spain look impossible to beat, very impressive.
 

[F 129 Row66]

Netball on TV is good to watch, I rather like the short skirts and long legs of a lot of the participants. Bollocks to watching football, bit of a joke really.

[wils]

The world has gone mad with this woman's football.

everyone is raving how big it's becoming but all the big club's women's element are loss making.

Attendances are declining too. It’s over. 

[Gaffer58]

Just watched about 15 minutes of the current game, Poland v Sweden, and I can quite see they do not have the physicality of men but I’m afraid I would not even rate the skilful side of the game as county level of the men’s game.

[scott_d]

 

I didn't use athletics, I specifically chopse a sprint because not only is it a transferable skill it's also one of the purest metrics of athletic potential.

As for not touching amateurs women's times, do fuck off, I was running 11 seconds on grass at 18. Electronic, timing with blocks and spikes on tartan, I d have gone under 10.5 and I wasn't even the quickest at that football team. 

Men were running 10.5 in the 1920's, a time when training was comical and competitors self selected by social class and privilege instead of ability.

The only woman to ever go under that mark had a clit the size of a bear's paw due to steroid abuse and still needed a massive tail wind.

Women's sport is shit.

 

Really?  So when you were 18, you were just 0.4 seconds off the standard to compete at the British Athletics Championships and with all the right equipment you'd have gone under that qualifying time of 10.6?  Along with your team-mate of course.  

The point is, women are slower anyway.  Everyone knows that.  If you watch any women's sport and expect the standard to be the same as mens, then you're going to be disappointed.  If you don't want to watch womens sport then just don't watch it.  You don't have to put them all down.

When second rate sport, women's, is promoted as  "elite" then it needs to be put back in it's lane. It's crap.

And yes at 18 I was posting those fairly average times. 10.5 isn't quick, it's a good 5 + meters off a flat 10 runner and I've seen 250lb rugby players hit the 10.5 mark. Remember men were running that over a century ago, in clogs and puffing on Woodbines. 

Not worth argueing with you on womens sport seeing as you've made up your mind to just belittle everything every women has ever achieved in sport because it doesn't measure up to the men.

But you're telling me, you and your 250lb rugby mate could have broken the womens world record when you were 18?  And you would have both been in the top 5/6 in the British 100m Finals in 2024?   You believe that if you want, but no-one else does.

[Gaffer58]

I had a paper round (Yosser Hughes)

[E6 Hammer]

The world has gone mad with this woman's football.

everyone is raving how big it's becoming but all the big club's women's element are loss making.

[BBondsBootlaces]

Except for a lack of talent, motivation & coach-ability, I could have turned pro.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Athletics is a poor example of your argument because, firstly, you would not get anywhere near any of the amateur times women can run, let alone the world class women.

But also because Athletics (at least running) isn't about just running fast times.  Championship racing, men or women, running toe-to-toe, or a tactical race, is excellent to watch as a sport.

Watching Keely Hodgkinson win Gold at the 2024 Olympics was just as exciting as watching Mo win his first Olympic Gold.

 

I didn't use athletics, I specifically chopse a sprint because not only is it a transferable skill it's also one of the purest metrics of athletic potential.

As for not touching amateurs women's times, do fuck off, I was running 11 seconds on grass at 18. Electronic, timing with blocks and spikes on tartan, I d have gone under 10.5 and I wasn't even the quickest at that football team. 

Men were running 10.5 in the 1920's, a time when training was comical and competitors self selected by social class and privilege instead of ability.

The only woman to ever go under that mark had a clit the size of a bear's paw due to steroid abuse and still needed a massive tail wind.

Women's sport is shit.

 

Really?  So when you were 18, you were just 0.4 seconds off the standard to compete at the British Athletics Championships and with all the right equipment you'd have gone under that qualifying time of 10.6?  Along with your team-mate of course.  

The point is, women are slower anyway.  Everyone knows that.  If you watch any women's sport and expect the standard to be the same as mens, then you're going to be disappointed.  If you don't want to watch womens sport then just don't watch it.  You don't have to put them all down.

When second rate sport, women's, is promoted as  "elite" then it needs to be put back in it's lane. It's crap.

And yes at 18 I was posting those fairly average times. 10.5 isn't quick, it's a good 5 + meters off a flat 10 runner and I've seen 250lb rugby players hit the 10.5 mark. Remember men were running that over a century ago, in clogs and puffing on Woodbines. 

[Fifth Column]

Too small, no courage, poor BALL HANDLERS 

Just been in the West End & while the Nike store at Oxford Circus is being renovated it’s covered in hoardings with massive posters of Lioness players
Presumably a quick refresh if they go out in straight sets

The Nike store?

You mean you can't enter because they've got the painters and decorators in?  I'm sure we've all experienced that.

[scott_d]

I know it's not their fault but Women's sport is shit.

They've still not broken 10.50 seconds, drug free, over 100m yet.

I move quicker when I'm touching cloth.

Athletics is a poor example of your argument because, firstly, you would not get anywhere near any of the amateur times women can run, let alone the world class women.

But also because Athletics (at least running) isn't about just running fast times.  Championship racing, men or women, running toe-to-toe, or a tactical race, is excellent to watch as a sport.

Watching Keely Hodgkinson win Gold at the 2024 Olympics was just as exciting as watching Mo win his first Olympic Gold.

 

I didn't use athletics, I specifically chopse a sprint because not only is it a transferable skill it's also one of the purest metrics of athletic potential.

As for not touching amateurs women's times, do fuck off, I was running 11 seconds on grass at 18. Electronic, timing with blocks and spikes on tartan, I d have gone under 10.5 and I wasn't even the quickest at that football team. 

Men were running 10.5 in the 1920's, a time when training was comical and competitors self selected by social class and privilege instead of ability.

The only woman to ever go under that mark had a clit the size of a bear's paw due to steroid abuse and still needed a massive tail wind.

Women's sport is shit.

 

 

Really?  So when you were 18, you were just 0.4 seconds off the standard to compete at the British Athletics Championships and with all the right equipment you'd have gone under that qualifying time of 10.6?  Along with your team-mate of course.  

The point is, women are slower anyway.  Everyone knows that.  If you watch any women's sport and expect the standard to be the same as mens, then you're going to be disappointed.  If you don't want to watch womens sport then just don't watch it.  You don't have to put them all down.

[bell]

Should have started Toone instead of Mead and let her get up with Russo.
Carter was awful and got skinned every time. Our distribution from the back wasn't great, especially Williamson. 
Need to be much better against Holland 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I hear Alisha Lehmann goes down easliy with the slightest touch. 

bit like you on one of your  slurps ?

[THUNDERCLINT]

Why are the goalies always useless?

Partly because they shouldn't be playing in the same dimensions as Men's Football do. They don't have anywhere near the same power, dexterity, speed, build that a man does. The goal dimensions should be adjusted down accordingly so they don't often look like 10 year olds leaping around the 6 yard box. 

 

 

Is the right answer. Putting a 5 foot fuck all women with the leaping capacity of Jon Brower Minnoch chained to an anvil in an 8 foot by 8 yard goal is just stupid.

Problem is, you make it any smallder they'll never have the co-ordination to hit it.

[Massive Attack]

Why are the goalies always useless?

Partly because they shouldn't be playing in the same dimensions as Men's Football do. They don't have anywhere near the same power, dexterity, speed, build that a man does. The goal dimensions should be adjusted down accordingly so they don't often look like 10 year olds leaping around the 6 yard box. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

I know it's not their fault but Women's sport is shit.

They've still not broken 10.50 seconds, drug free, over 100m yet.

I move quicker when I'm touching cloth.

Athletics is a poor example of your argument because, firstly, you would not get anywhere near any of the amateur times women can run, let alone the world class women.

But also because Athletics (at least running) isn't about just running fast times.  Championship racing, men or women, running toe-to-toe, or a tactical race, is excellent to watch as a sport.

Watching Keely Hodgkinson win Gold at the 2024 Olympics was just as exciting as watching Mo win his first Olympic Gold.

 

 

I didn't use athletics, I specifically chopse a sprint because not only is it a transferable skill it's also one of the purest metrics of athletic potential.

As for not touching amateurs women's times, do fuck off, I was running 11 seconds on grass at 18. Electronic, timing with blocks and spikes on tartan, I d have gone under 10.5 and I wasn't even the quickest at that football team. 

Men were running 10.5 in the 1920's, a time when training was comical and competitors self selected by social class and privilege instead of ability.

The only woman to ever go under that mark had a clit the size of a bear's paw due to steroid abuse and still needed a massive tail wind.

Women's sport is shit.

[scott_d]

I know it's not their fault but Women's sport is shit.

They've still not broken 10.50 seconds, drug free, over 100m yet.

I move quicker when I'm touching cloth.

Athletics is a poor example of your argument because, firstly, you would not get anywhere near any of the amateur times women can run, let alone the world class women.

But also because Athletics (at least running) isn't about just running fast times.  Championship racing, men or women, running toe-to-toe, or a tactical race, is excellent to watch as a sport.

Watching Keely Hodgkinson win Gold at the 2024 Olympics was just as exciting as watching Mo win his first Olympic Gold.

[Fauxstralian]

Too small, no courage, poor BALL HANDLERS 

Just been in the West End & while the Nike store at Oxford Circus is being renovated it’s covered in hoardings with massive posters of Lioness players
Presumably a quick refresh if they go out in straight sets

[Gaffer58]

Why are the goalies always useless?

[THUNDERCLINT]

I know it's not their fault but Women's sport is shit.

They've still not broken 10.50 seconds, drug free, over 100m yet.

I move quicker when I'm touching cloth.

[twoleftfeet]

Very similar to the men’s team.

Yes, both as boring as fuck.