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Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
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goose wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025, 13:23Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025, 12:54I don’t agree. The point of being a West Ham fans is following our club wherever they are whenever we can. Some midget tyrant cսnt with more money than God isn’t going to miss fans who give up their season tickets because he’ll make the missed revenue up having gullible tourists buy everything in sight.
The pandemic proved that fans inside ground become nothing more than a backdrop as the club gets the majority of its income from other revenues, mainly TV rights so barstoolers and Hank from West Virginia can watch us, and I reiterate my point about tourists replacing us making up for lost revenue.
The only way it’ll ever hurt him is if we go down, because the club would be desperate for us to attend games because tickets at the gate and merchandise from the shop become the clubs largest income streams.That support through thick & thin is amazing but is not going to fix the situation.
50k ST holders? no way are they replacing them all with day trippers.
You’re right, they wouldn’t, but it’s unrealistic to think 50k are going to give up their ST. So we need an alternative plan.
We need a forum (not just here) to telegraph these issues and get other West Ham fans onside. We have a large but apathetic fanbase because I believe we all set the bar so low on what we expect from the club that has been led by a series of people who lie through their back teeth, the latest and chief amongst them being David Sullivan.
We need a forum (not just here) to telegraph these issues and get other West Ham fans onside. We have a large but apathetic fanbase because I believe we all set the bar so low on what we expect from the club that has been led by a series of people who lie through their back teeth, the latest and chief amongst them being David Sullivan.
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025, 12:54I don’t agree. The point of being a West Ham fans is following our club wherever they are whenever we can. Some midget tyrant cսnt with more money than God isn’t going to miss fans who give up their season tickets because he’ll make the missed revenue up having gullible tourists buy everything in sight.
The pandemic proved that fans inside ground become nothing more than a backdrop as the club gets the majority of its income from other revenues, mainly TV rights so barstoolers and Hank from West Virginia can watch us, and I reiterate my point about tourists replacing us making up for lost revenue.
The only way it’ll ever hurt him is if we go down, because the club would be desperate for us to attend games because tickets at the gate and merchandise from the shop become the clubs largest income streams.
That support through thick & thin is amazing but is not going to fix the situation.
50k ST holders? no way are they replacing them all with day trippers.
50k ST holders? no way are they replacing them all with day trippers.
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Gank wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025, 10:44Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 10:15 Having a season ticket because you've "always had a season ticket" does not mark you out as a "better" West Ham fan.
It does indicate insecurity and a reluctance to change along with the world though.Nonsense. Attending every single home match, and making sure you can buy always having a season ticket, absolutely does mark you out as a better West Ham fan than people who don't bother going but like to spout off on message boards. I don't have a season ticket, so I know my place below those that do, but I do make around half the home games so I also know my place above those that don't go at all.
It's nice that we have supporters who live abroad, I'm glad they chose us, but they're irrelevant if they don't attend so are bottom of the pile.
Saying you care while watching on telly is not the same as being there in the rain watching awful football and losing, then coming back next game with your prepurchased ticket, those people are top of the tree in the supporter league table.
Nice to know that in your eyes I’m irrelevant and bottom of the pile, well done you’ve touched a nerve, I was born in Leyton, lived in Romford for most of my life, supported this club for 55 years because there wasn’t a choice really, worked Barking Rd E13 for 10 years early career, ST holder West side and East Lower for years, I live abroad now for over 4 years so it’s easy to say I won’t give a penny to Sullivan anymore. Saying your support is more important than mine is fucking stupid, you’re no more important or passionate than I was, and irrelevant and bottom of the pile is only something you’d get away with online.
A different view is the people who are turning up to that shithole every game are the people who are reinforcing Sullivan and Brady’s myth that everything is tickety fucking boo, over 35k have walked away from that place, a lot of old school fans (some who’ve put in more time and money than me) will be amongst them, are they irrelevant and bottom of the pile?
A different view is the people who are turning up to that shithole every game are the people who are reinforcing Sullivan and Brady’s myth that everything is tickety fucking boo, over 35k have walked away from that place, a lot of old school fans (some who’ve put in more time and money than me) will be amongst them, are they irrelevant and bottom of the pile?
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
I don’t agree. The point of being a West Ham fans is following our club wherever they are whenever we can. Some midget tyrant cսnt with more money than God isn’t going to miss fans who give up their season tickets because he’ll make the missed revenue up having gullible tourists buy everything in sight.
The pandemic proved that fans inside ground become nothing more than a backdrop as the club gets the majority of its income from other revenues, mainly TV rights so barstoolers and Hank from West Virginia can watch us, and I reiterate my point about tourists replacing us making up for lost revenue.
The only way it’ll ever hurt him is if we go down, because the club would be desperate for us to attend games because tickets at the gate and merchandise from the shop become the clubs largest income streams.
The pandemic proved that fans inside ground become nothing more than a backdrop as the club gets the majority of its income from other revenues, mainly TV rights so barstoolers and Hank from West Virginia can watch us, and I reiterate my point about tourists replacing us making up for lost revenue.
The only way it’ll ever hurt him is if we go down, because the club would be desperate for us to attend games because tickets at the gate and merchandise from the shop become the clubs largest income streams.
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 10:15 Having a season ticket because you've "always had a season ticket" does not mark you out as a "better" West Ham fan.
It does indicate insecurity and a reluctance to change along with the world though.
Nonsense. Attending every single home match, and making sure you can buy always having a season ticket, absolutely does mark you out as a better West Ham fan than people who don't bother going but like to spout off on message boards. I don't have a season ticket, so I know my place below those that do, but I do make around half the home games so I also know my place above those that don't go at all.
It's nice that we have supporters who live abroad, I'm glad they chose us, but they're irrelevant if they don't attend so are bottom of the pile.
Saying you care while watching on telly is not the same as being there in the rain watching awful football and losing, then coming back next game with your prepurchased ticket, those people are top of the tree in the supporter league table.
It's nice that we have supporters who live abroad, I'm glad they chose us, but they're irrelevant if they don't attend so are bottom of the pile.
Saying you care while watching on telly is not the same as being there in the rain watching awful football and losing, then coming back next game with your prepurchased ticket, those people are top of the tree in the supporter league table.
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
If you step away from it, the business model is fairly sound and Sullivan and Brady has never has given a shit about the history of the club including the older fan base.
Push fans away, attract more tourists, hike ticket prices and sell more merchandise on the day given most buy souvenirs.
then take whatever income you get based on a league position above the relegation zone.
like others have said, nothing will happen unless we are bottom 3 after enough games .
Push fans away, attract more tourists, hike ticket prices and sell more merchandise on the day given most buy souvenirs.
then take whatever income you get based on a league position above the relegation zone.
like others have said, nothing will happen unless we are bottom 3 after enough games .
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The club are desperate for me not to miss out on the Chelsea game.
I've had numerous texts and emails over the past three weeks informing me that I should book my seat now as I don't want to miss out.
I also had an email from a very nice fella called Henry Schoppmann the business development manager who offered to be a personal point of contact should I need any support with my bookings.amd asking if there were any particular home games I was interesting in attending.
ViIP hospitality packages at knockdown prices (£39) for the Lille game were also on offer in his email and he promised to send over further offers throughout the season.
I will probably attend the Chelsea game and the majority of home games but the ownership and fixture changes for TV certainly piss me off as many others I know.
This business development guy will probably be actively seeking out more of the tourist market so the atmosphere will become even more sterile.
He should be looking more at the disenfranchised and hacked off fans who have stopped going but that's probably not the people they want over there any more.
Yanks and Japanese buying hospitality packages and crap kits more the market these days.
The only problem is they won't be coming back again after viewing the product on the pitch and the shit view.
I've had numerous texts and emails over the past three weeks informing me that I should book my seat now as I don't want to miss out.
I also had an email from a very nice fella called Henry Schoppmann the business development manager who offered to be a personal point of contact should I need any support with my bookings.amd asking if there were any particular home games I was interesting in attending.
ViIP hospitality packages at knockdown prices (£39) for the Lille game were also on offer in his email and he promised to send over further offers throughout the season.
I will probably attend the Chelsea game and the majority of home games but the ownership and fixture changes for TV certainly piss me off as many others I know.
This business development guy will probably be actively seeking out more of the tourist market so the atmosphere will become even more sterile.
He should be looking more at the disenfranchised and hacked off fans who have stopped going but that's probably not the people they want over there any more.
Yanks and Japanese buying hospitality packages and crap kits more the market these days.
The only problem is they won't be coming back again after viewing the product on the pitch and the shit view.
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Having a season ticket because you've "always had a season ticket" does not mark you out as a "better" West Ham fan.
It does indicate insecurity and a reluctance to change along with the world though.
It does indicate insecurity and a reluctance to change along with the world though.
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
The only thing our owners truly fear is apathy. Anything else means you’re still on the hook. If you don’t like what’s happening then don’t go, stay at home and watch the match on your fire stick.
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Team will have to be in the bottom 3 at Xmas, be on a horrific run of results and then you will likely have the conditions for mass protest or dissent imo
its possible with the Sullivans recruitment meddling and failure to address the team / squad’s obvious problems ( midfield, forward, keeper ) but until then there will be apathy I suspect.
its possible with the Sullivans recruitment meddling and failure to address the team / squad’s obvious problems ( midfield, forward, keeper ) but until then there will be apathy I suspect.
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:16XKhammer wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:12Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 09:56 I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there.
It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans.l wouldn't back itThat’s because you’re a massive no mark cսnt that isn’t proper West Ham
I have a season ticket is that the reason I'm a no mark cսnt?
Are you proper West Ham giving it large on here?
Are you proper West Ham giving it large on here?
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:38Gank wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:19 No good bleating on WHO about it, there are hardly any posters on here and only a percentage of those would back it.
The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.
So forget it.
Good! So fucking severe it then. They've played it smart by keeping their enemies closer but it's getting us nowhere. Time to cut all ties and demand for them to fuck off now. Time is up..
They might do. Are any of them still on WHO?
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Humans - ALL humans are social creatures of habit; we like a routine, it helps us keep track of time.
Football at 3pm every Saturday being one such example. The disruption TV brought to that decades old routine, however, proves that habits can be broken without your dick dropping off, routines can be changed without the sky falling in. We managed Sunday games, without much of an issue, while in Europe.
Nobody is saying that you HAVE to change - what they are saying is that to help ensure that you can keep your routine going in the future, you may have to put yourself off-schedule now for a short while.
It does need co-ordination though and these days there are plenty of people who would happily be in charge of such action (if they had the time - but they don't, sorry) but will give a big fuck-off if they so much as feel on the wind that somebody is trying to lead them or tell them what to do.
It's no secret that I've not been to a game for decades, so personally, right NOW, I'm not giving anything up. I still have plans to take in a few games each time I come back to Europe, but the direction in which the club is moving make that less and less likely.
I would, though, be Sullivan's dream customer - a tourist AND old skool; long held passion for the team along with a souvenir shopping list.
Football at 3pm every Saturday being one such example. The disruption TV brought to that decades old routine, however, proves that habits can be broken without your dick dropping off, routines can be changed without the sky falling in. We managed Sunday games, without much of an issue, while in Europe.
Nobody is saying that you HAVE to change - what they are saying is that to help ensure that you can keep your routine going in the future, you may have to put yourself off-schedule now for a short while.
It does need co-ordination though and these days there are plenty of people who would happily be in charge of such action (if they had the time - but they don't, sorry) but will give a big fuck-off if they so much as feel on the wind that somebody is trying to lead them or tell them what to do.
It's no secret that I've not been to a game for decades, so personally, right NOW, I'm not giving anything up. I still have plans to take in a few games each time I come back to Europe, but the direction in which the club is moving make that less and less likely.
I would, though, be Sullivan's dream customer - a tourist AND old skool; long held passion for the team along with a souvenir shopping list.
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Gank wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:19 No good bleating on WHO about it, there are hardly any posters on here and only a percentage of those would back it.
The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.
So forget it.
Good! So fucking severe it then. They've played it smart by keeping their enemies closer but it's getting us nowhere. Time to cut all ties and demand for them to fuck off now. Time is up..
Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
No good bleating on WHO about it, there are hardly any posters on here and only a percentage of those would back it.
The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.
So forget it.
The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.
So forget it.
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
XKhammer wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:12Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 09:56 I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there.
It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans.l wouldn't back it
That’s because you’re a massive no mark cսnt that isn’t proper West Ham
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Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 09:56 I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there.
It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans.
Seeing as most fans turn up after 5 mins because they have been delayed by the pathetic security checks this is a non starter plus l wouldn't back it as l go to watch West Ham and no matter what not demos organised by people that don't actually go...doom and gloom merchants
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North Bank" wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:41 I don't think S&B give a fuck about STHs seeing as they're now bringing in facial recognition to deter people abusing concessional tickets. As STHs we generate around 15% of the Clubs turnover, so even if 20% kicked up and ended up walking away or getting banned that's a revenue loss of around £7 million which is covered by shirt sponsorship.
The best way is to make Sullivan's life uncomfortable and force his hand, otherwise after him we'll be lumbered with Jack and that will be the end of West Ham.
Happy days
Agree with this. Although suspect Jack is a bit more mummy's boy and thin skinned than his old man, and might be more 'open to persuasion' from a concerted effort by the fanbase.
Just the impression that I get.
Just the impression that I get.
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I don't think S&B give a fuck about STHs seeing as they're now bringing in facial recognition to deter people abusing concessional tickets. As STHs we generate around 15% of the Clubs turnover, so even if 20% kicked up and ended up walking away or getting banned that's a revenue loss of around £7 million which is covered by shirt sponsorship.
The best way is to make Sullivan's life uncomfortable and force his hand, otherwise after him we'll be lumbered with Jack and that will be the end of West Ham.
Happy days
The best way is to make Sullivan's life uncomfortable and force his hand, otherwise after him we'll be lumbered with Jack and that will be the end of West Ham.
Happy days
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there.
It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans.
It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans.
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Re: Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!
Oh FFS
i doubt he or the board will give 2 fucks at any protest, as long as they fill the bowl and the TV and sponsorship money keeps rolling in!
He is the owner (yes he’s a shit owner) but his prerogative how he runs things, harsh but true just as it is that anyone is free to offer to buy him out?
Not saying the fans shouldn’t show there anger, but unless it’s en masse and the bowl is half empty and no merchandise sales it’s like pissing in the wind, good luck getting enough people to participate
i doubt he or the board will give 2 fucks at any protest, as long as they fill the bowl and the TV and sponsorship money keeps rolling in!
He is the owner (yes he’s a shit owner) but his prerogative how he runs things, harsh but true just as it is that anyone is free to offer to buy him out?
Not saying the fans shouldn’t show there anger, but unless it’s en masse and the bowl is half empty and no merchandise sales it’s like pissing in the wind, good luck getting enough people to participate