Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

[stubbo-admin]

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

We haven’t got 50m to spend and certainly not all one player. So it’s pointless comparing us to the transfer policy of Chelsea.

Even at 35m Fernandes would equal what we paid for Paqueta or Kudus, who were far more established players. Or a better comparison is he is currently valued almost as costly as the combined fees paid for Wan Bissaka, Bowen and Soucek.

The club needs to be more careful with how we spend money, and need to identify players like Fernandes before the likes of Southampton.

[THUNDERCLINT]

We had no ihterest in Ramsey, it was just noise from Salthouse to force Newcastle's hand.

We have no interest in Fernandes and knew Soton's price weeks before the " bid".

Both stories were pantomime to fill column inches until, as I told you, mid August when Brownhill signs.

We'd need to shift Alvarez, Aguerd, Areola, Guido and Mavropanos before the books could afford that spend.

[southbankbornnbred]

Fuck me. You do realise that just two years ago someone (Chelsea) paid £50m+ for a 19 year old from the Championship? And Southampton must know it, seeing as they were the club who were paid it (for Romeo Lavia).

Yeah, but that transfer is now seen as bonkers given Lavia’s fitness record. It has made him a bit of a disappointment, even aged just 21. It’s a salutary warning against paying whopping fees for unproven Championship talent. And, as you say, surely Soton know it.

 

LOL. Now you're trying to act like you were thinking of the Lavia deal before you made that first statement? It's fucking nonsense anyway. A "salutary warning", as if the injuries he got later were because his team got relegated or something. Don't be daft.

Neither Lavia nor Fernandes are "unproven Championship talent" anyway. Lavia hasn't played in the Championship in his life and Fernandes made his debut there last week. Both played a full season in the Premier League, earning big plaudits there while playing in a shit team.

So, to be clear beyond the dick-waving: you would pay £50m for Fernandes?

If so, fair enough. I don’t think he’s worth that. He looks like a good young player (only seen him 4/5 times). But not at £50m. I think you could get similar quality for less.

But that’s football, isn’t it? Game of opinions for fans.

[southbankbornnbred]

Fernandes does seem considerably over-valued at £50m, especially as it’s legs we need in midfield (assuming Paqueta stays and remains the more creative force).

I get that Soton fans rate him. But we shouldn’t pay that for him. He just hasn’t shown that value yet.

As a marker (and it’s only that), you could lure Konrad Laimer out of Bayern’s stiffs, plus Hayden Hackney, for around £40m - £45m combined. Then you have legs. I’m sure there are many other options, too.

 

Coincidentally, I had lunch today with one of my company's suppliers. He is a Boro fan. And he said to me, and I quote, "Why are you fucking around Fernandes at £40m. Hackney is available for £20m and he is literally made for West Ham's midfield"

Made for West Ham? 35 years old and injured then is he?

 

 

Ag ag ag! Give it time!

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

Fuck me. You do realise that just two years ago someone (Chelsea) paid £50m+ for a 19 year old from the Championship? And Southampton must know it, seeing as they were the club who were paid it (for Romeo Lavia).

Yeah, but that transfer is now seen as bonkers given Lavia’s fitness record. It has made him a bit of a disappointment, even aged just 21. It’s a salutary warning against paying whopping fees for unproven Championship talent. And, as you say, surely Soton know it.

 

LOL. Now you're trying to act like you were thinking of the Lavia deal before you made that first statement? It's fucking nonsense anyway. A "salutary warning", as if the injuries he got later were because his team got relegated or something. Don't be daft.

Neither Lavia nor Fernandes are "unproven Championship talent" anyway. Lavia hasn't played in the Championship in his life and Fernandes made his debut there last week. Both played a full season in the Premier League, earning big plaudits there while playing in a shit team.

[southbankbornnbred]

Fernandes does seem considerably over-valued at £50m, especially as it’s legs we need in midfield (assuming Paqueta stays and remains the more creative force).

I get that Soton fans rate him. But we shouldn’t pay that for him. He just hasn’t shown that value yet.

As a marker (and it’s only that), you could lure Konrad Laimer out of Bayern’s stiffs, plus Hayden Hackney, for around £40m - £45m combined. Then you have legs. I’m sure there are many other options, too.

 

Coincidentally, I had lunch today with one of my company's suppliers. He is a Boro fan. And he said to me, and I quote, "Why are you fucking around Fernandes at £40m. Hackney is available for £20m and he is literally made for West Ham's midfield"

I agree.

It’s not that I don’t rate Fernandes. I just think Hackney is a good and hard-working player with quality on the ball, for a lot less, and probably ready to play in the first team. Put a tough, quicker holding player alongside him and Paqueta, and you’ve got a midfield trio.

[El Scorchio]

Fernandes does seem considerably over-valued at £50m, especially as it’s legs we need in midfield (assuming Paqueta stays and remains the more creative force).

I get that Soton fans rate him. But we shouldn’t pay that for him. He just hasn’t shown that value yet.

As a marker (and it’s only that), you could lure Konrad Laimer out of Bayern’s stiffs, plus Hayden Hackney, for around £40m - £45m combined. Then you have legs. I’m sure there are many other options, too.

 

Coincidentally, I had lunch today with one of my company's suppliers. He is a Boro fan. And he said to me, and I quote, "Why are you fucking around Fernandes at £40m. Hackney is available for £20m and he is literally made for West Ham's midfield"

Made for West Ham? 35 years old and injured then is he?

[El Scorchio]

They key is Southampton absolutely don't have to sell. They aren't like us with Kudus, wandering around with our pants round out ankles, begging anyone to dry shaft us for him. They can quote whatever price they want and if no-one meets it just keep him provided he doesn't kick off (also like Kudus seemingly did, to be fair)

They hold the cards in this one, just like we handed spurs all the cards with Kudus.

Masterful as ever from the little genius.

[onsideman]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 


 

With the Lavia deal Southampton just let Liverpool keep upping their bids over a 3 week period. They finally accepted the 4th bid, which was about 50% more than their first bid had been, by which time Chelsea had bid for him too. You'd imagine Southampton might hope for similar to happen again.

All speculation, but I could see Sully trying to do what happened with Hermansen again - pretend to have cooled interest, look at other options, then come back to Southampton in a week or two with a final offer and tell them otherwise we'll get someone else. If they don't have any other potential buyers they'll probably go for it, as this would be getting close to deadline day.

There's a sweet spot for that approach. Too late and they sit it out until January as they don't have time to find a replacement 

[Russ of the BML]

Fernandes does seem considerably over-valued at £50m, especially as it’s legs we need in midfield (assuming Paqueta stays and remains the more creative force).

I get that Soton fans rate him. But we shouldn’t pay that for him. He just hasn’t shown that value yet.

As a marker (and it’s only that), you could lure Konrad Laimer out of Bayern’s stiffs, plus Hayden Hackney, for around £40m - £45m combined. Then you have legs. I’m sure there are many other options, too.

 

 

Coincidentally, I had lunch today with one of my company's suppliers. He is a Boro fan. And he said to me, and I quote, "Why are you fucking around Fernandes at £40m. Hackney is available for £20m and he is literally made for West Ham's midfield"

[southbankbornnbred]

Lavia can’t play two games a week - so was deregistered in Europe by Chelsea last season. He’s not an advert for paying big in the Championship, despite his obvious talent.

[onsideman]

Liverpool have just paid £30m odd for an 18 year old centre back I've never heard of. Likewise Bournemouth for Diakite. £40m for Ramsay... £30m for Dewsbury-Hall. Nothing comes cheap unless you pick them up at an earlier stage... and that's something we've proved to be spectacularly shit at

[fraser]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

Bung in Ward-Prowse into the deal and maybe that swings it!

I don't think they're desperate 

[southbankbornnbred]

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

Fuck me. You do realise that just two years ago someone (Chelsea) paid £50m+ for a 19 year old from the Championship? And Southampton must know it, seeing as they were the club who were paid it (for Romeo Lavia).

 

 

Yeah, but that transfer is now seen as bonkers given Lavia’s fitness record. It has made him a bit of a disappointment, even aged just 21. It’s a salutary warning against paying whopping fees for unproven Championship talent. And, as you say, surely Soton know it.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 

 

With the Lavia deal Southampton just let Liverpool keep upping their bids over a 3 week period. They finally accepted the 4th bid, which was about 50% more than their first bid had been, by which time Chelsea had bid for him too. You'd imagine Southampton might hope for similar to happen again.

All speculation, but I could see Sully trying to do what happened with Hermansen again - pretend to have cooled interest, look at other options, then come back to Southampton in a week or two with a final offer and tell them otherwise we'll get someone else. If they don't have any other potential buyers they'll probably go for it, as this would be getting close to deadline day.

[twoleftfeet]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

Bung in Ward-Prowse into the deal and maybe that swings it!

£30m plus Cornet 

[Lato]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

Bung in Ward-Prowse into the deal and maybe that swings it!

[Lato]

I see we are linked with Elnesyri.....Again! Whats that 3 pre-seasons running now? Give it another 3 and he will be ripe enough to Join Potters West Ham Dad's Army! 

[Fauxstralian]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

Fuck me. You do realise that just two years ago someone (Chelsea) paid £50m+ for a 19 year old from the Championship? And Southampton must know it, seeing as they were the club who were paid it (for Romeo Lavia).

[southbankbornnbred]

If we’re determined on Fernandes, just let Southampton sweat.

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

[dealcanvey]

Ramsey to Newcastle. 43m.

 

[southbankbornnbred]

The point about Fernandes at £50m is not that he’s a bad player - perhaps not. But at that price, even aged 21, there’s a strong chance you’d never get the money back if he didn’t work out.

Like Kilman right now (very different player, obvs). Nobody would pay anywhere near that amount for him now.

And we’ve got to stop losing big cash/value on people like Kilman, Alvarez, JWP etc.

[El Scorchio]

Didn't the opposite happen last season, the manager didn't want Fernandes so we didn't buy him and ended up stuck with Guido and we're moaning because we shouldn't have listened to the manager as being stuck with him is stopping our business now. I don't think we should pay anything close to what they want for him, I do think we should have found this out earlier though. 

Yup, I believe the scarf who shall not be mentioned wanted Fernandes. He went for 15 mill to Southampton and we got Guido courtesy of Lop or Sullivan. Fucking superb bit of business 

The ultimate clash of philosophies. Unsurprisingly the cheap short sighted one won out.

So we shouldn't always let the manager have his way it's a flawed system isn't it, Potter obviously doesn't like wingers and he could sell them all... Then he bombs out gets sacked and we employ someone who plays 4-3-3 and back on the merry go round we get. 

 

 

Yeah you can look back and pick and choose a little what worked and what didn't with the benefit of hindsight but we have a definite tendency to identify young players that go on to be good players with a big price tag, and not buying them for one reason or another at the time when they'd be really good value.

Our tendency to avoid investing in young up and coming players and instead invest in expensive players on their way down with big wages and no resale value is definitely detrimental to the club though. 

I know this isn't a view shared by many but I'd stick with Potter and let him build a young team over the course of a couple of seasons. I know we won't because Sullivan won't be able to let him get on with it without meddling and undermining all the plans. At least if it doesn't pan out brilliantly a new manager will actually be able to fund yet anther overhaul by getting good money from selling players in their mid 20s rather than having to be lumbered with a group of immovable players in their late 20s and early 30s.

[southbankbornnbred]

Fernandes does seem considerably over-valued at £50m, especially as it’s legs we need in midfield (assuming Paqueta stays and remains the more creative force).

I get that Soton fans rate him. But we shouldn’t pay that for him. He just hasn’t shown that value yet.

As a marker (and it’s only that), you could lure Konrad Laimer out of Bayern’s stiffs, plus Hayden Hackney, for around £40m - £45m combined. Then you have legs. I’m sure there are many other options, too.