Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

[stubbo-admin]

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

[El Scorchio]

 

If it quacks its a duck mate.
Sometimes we over think things. If someone for 8 months has picked the same type of team with the same style of play and then makes JWP vice captain in the area where we need speed then its pretty obvious to me this is what he wants.

If he wanted something different he has had 2 windows to find it. He has Potts & Fearon as well. If he desperately needed to change it he could bring AWB centrally and put KWP as right wing back. He has options all over the fucking place. 

The reality is THIS is how he thinks football should be played. He’s had 8 months now, what dont you believe from your own eyes?

In some ways it’s classic Serie A style football from the 90s. Maybe he thinks it’s a counter to the way other PL teams work and he thinks that’s the best way to be successful. Whatever his reasons, how can you conclude any different from what he’s throwing out on the pitch week after week?

They haven't got him in a single midfielder since he's been here. All they've done is get rid of a few and are looking to get rid of more. If when he eventually gets one which is HIS choice- not Sullivans- and it's a plodder, then I'll say you're correct about this. However it won't be a plodder. It'll be a high energy young player, so I'm very confident I'll be saying you're incorrect about it.

 

This is called a “coping mechanism”. In your head you can’t believe a football manager would make such poor choices without serious extenuating circumstances. I get it. Potter doesn’t explain ANYTHING football wise in any interview or press conference on purpose, so he can allow this coping mechanism to flourish in our minds.

But the truth will set you free! Time reveals all etc,, and it’s 8 months in. And this is what we have.

I remember when Moyes did an interview and he said he rejected Man City/Ateltico’s Alvarez. My jaw dropped. He literally thought a 30+ yr old Antonio was a better forward than Alvarez who went on to win the PL, the South American cup and the World Cup.

I then realised that sometimes you get into management positions in football because your ego is the size of a pickup truck and you believe your own PR a bit too much. And you will do ANYTHING to protect your ego and the perception that you are right all the time. And thats the reason so many of them make decisions that seem utterly baffling, week after week. I’m seeing the same in Potter. I hope he goes guns blazing at Chelsea and realises that he HAS to show the fans he is doing EVERYTHING to turn it around and would rather go out blazing than this tepid side to side crab football shit he has devised.

Fingers crossed all my comments are utterly misplaced…

No I can't, because he wouldn't be a football manager for very long if that were the case and we all know Sullivan has outrageous form for fucking his managers about and dealing in half measures. He wants you to think Potter is the cause of the problems because then you're not looking at him. Hook line and sinker. The managers are a succession of fall guys.
As I said, if he gets the midfielders he wants with no half measures or compromises, I think it'll look different. However I think he'll get one midfielder he wants and one half measure. And so it will go on. Sullivan short changing his managers and chucking them under the bus if and when it goes wrong.

[El Scorchio]

I'm still not convinced this wasn't by design that Potter was happy to spend all the Kudus money straight away on a new Left Back we didn't urgently need or a new expensive Keeper. If his main priority was a quality Midfielder, then that should have been his main objective yet we've fannied about looking at them, to the extent we are now seriously considering a Belgium lad who we only stumbled upon by chance in our last Pre-Season Friendly, Moo-cow or whatever his name is. That should be your first alarm bell going off.  

Fair play. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit but I can't imagine he'd say to Sullivan 'get a left back in immediately, then go and see your mate Will, then get me a goalie on the even of the season and wait until the last week to get me a midfielder.' He'll have wanted them all in at least a month ago to actually have a full preseason with them. We know Sullivan has form for leaving these things as late as possible especially if it's decent money.

[threesixty]

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

 

If it quacks its a duck mate.
Sometimes we over think things. If someone for 8 months has picked the same type of team with the same style of play and then makes JWP vice captain in the area where we need speed then its pretty obvious to me this is what he wants.

If he wanted something different he has had 2 windows to find it. He has Potts & Fearon as well. If he desperately needed to change it he could bring AWB centrally and put KWP as right wing back. He has options all over the fucking place. 

The reality is THIS is how he thinks football should be played. He’s had 8 months now, what dont you believe from your own eyes?

In some ways it’s classic Serie A style football from the 90s. Maybe he thinks it’s a counter to the way other PL teams work and he thinks that’s the best way to be successful. Whatever his reasons, how can you conclude any different from what he’s throwing out on the pitch week after week?

They haven't got him in a single midfielder since he's been here. All they've done is get rid of a few and are looking to get rid of more. If when he eventually gets one which is HIS choice- not Sullivans- and it's a plodder, then I'll say you're correct about this. However it won't be a plodder. It'll be a high energy young player, so I'm very confident I'll be saying you're incorrect about it.

 

 

This is called a “coping mechanism”. In your head you can’t believe a football manager would make such poor choices without serious extenuating circumstances. I get it. Potter doesn’t explain ANYTHING football wise in any interview or press conference on purpose, so he can allow this coping mechanism to flourish in our minds.

But the truth will set you free! Time reveals all etc,, and it’s 8 months in. And this is what we have.

I remember when Moyes did an interview and he said he rejected Man City/Ateltico’s Alvarez. My jaw dropped. He literally thought a 30+ yr old Antonio was a better forward than Alvarez who went on to win the PL, the South American cup and the World Cup.

I then realised that sometimes you get into management positions in football because your ego is the size of a pickup truck and you believe your own PR a bit too much. And you will do ANYTHING to protect your ego and the perception that you are right all the time. And thats the reason so many of them make decisions that seem utterly baffling, week after week. I’m seeing the same in Potter. I hope he goes guns blazing at Chelsea and realises that he HAS to show the fans he is doing EVERYTHING to turn it around and would rather go out blazing than this tepid side to side crab football shit he has devised.

Fingers crossed all my comments are utterly misplaced…

[Massive Attack]

I'm still not convinced this wasn't by design that Potter was happy to spend all the Kudus money straight away on a new Left Back we didn't urgently need or a new expensive Keeper. If his main priority was a quality Midfielder, then that should have been his main objective yet we've fannied about looking at them, to the extent we are now seriously considering a Belgium lad who we only stumbled upon by chance in our last Pre-Season Friendly, Moo-cow or whatever his name is. That should be your first alarm bell going off.  

[El Scorchio]

Yeah, whatever you say Wicked Witch of the West Ham.



As for moving on Kudus this summer, no one will convince me that was the right thing to do. Sure he was a pain in the arse but under the right management he would flourish and would be a serious asset to have in anyone's side. What you don't do is flog him on the relative cheap when his potential is so much higher. Dogshit Economics. And certainly not to your fierce London rivals!

 

 

Sickening isn't it. It's just lies to save admitting that we flogged him to a club they swore we wouldn't do business with again because we were desperate for cash due to horrific financial mismanagement on their part, and Levy had Sullivan's bollocks in a vice over it after they wrongly gambled there would be a bidding war for the bloke.

To say he's crap to boot is just incredible. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

..."[Kudus] didn't have a particularly good season for West Ham last year by his own standards. So we looked to move on," she said."...

And why didn't he have a particularly good season?

Because he was surrounded by dross and managed by dross.

Who was responsible for that?

[El Scorchio]

 

If it quacks its a duck mate.
Sometimes we over think things. If someone for 8 months has picked the same type of team with the same style of play and then makes JWP vice captain in the area where we need speed then its pretty obvious to me this is what he wants.

If he wanted something different he has had 2 windows to find it. He has Potts & Fearon as well. If he desperately needed to change it he could bring AWB centrally and put KWP as right wing back. He has options all over the fucking place. 

The reality is THIS is how he thinks football should be played. He’s had 8 months now, what dont you believe from your own eyes?

In some ways it’s classic Serie A style football from the 90s. Maybe he thinks it’s a counter to the way other PL teams work and he thinks that’s the best way to be successful. Whatever his reasons, how can you conclude any different from what he’s throwing out on the pitch week after week?

They haven't got him in a single midfielder since he's been here. All they've done is get rid of a few and are looking to get rid of more. If when he eventually gets one which is HIS choice- not Sullivans- and it's a plodder, then I'll say you're correct about this. However it won't be a plodder. It'll be a high energy young player, so I'm very confident I'll be saying you're incorrect about it.

*Correction

Potter chose ​​to prioritise the Kudus money on a new Left-Back and Goalkeeper first. If he was so keen to get in a new Midfielder then he would have prioritised accordingly. And even when he has a promising young Midfielder in Potts, he bottled to start him. 

 

 

I think they only came first because in the board's mind they were cheaper/easier targets and would placate/distract fans. All we know is they were bought in first by Sullivan- not that they were Potter's top priority. And probably because he thought it would be easier to bully Slavia and Leicester into favourable deals for us. We still fucked about for ages getting Hermansen when it was clear weeks and weeks before that it was the player Potter wanted. He won't have asked Sullivan to wait until after almost all of preseason with everything else in place. Sullivan just HAD to try and play hardball with Leicester. For once it actually worked financially but fucking hell it took ages to get him in.

He was always going to dither all summer getting Potter his midfielder(s) especially if they were for serious money. You can bet your arse if Potter had any interest in Brownhill or someone else cheap he'd have been in before the end of July. Why did Wilson come in relatively early? Cheap.
He's just reluctant to open his wallet if he's not going to 'win' the transfer deal. The common factor in all three so far? He's 'won' the deals financially and I bet he's especially proud of gaslighting the Brazilian goalkeeper at the same time to put the frighteners on Leicester so they caved. Run like a scolded cat from Fernandes after Southampton didn't just crumble at his first offer, though. I reckon we probably end up getting him right at deadline day for 40 million after he's exhausted all possibility of getting any sort of concession out of Southampton. Maybe we get one other as well. 

But I have strong doubts Sullivan prioritised his deals based on what the manager wanted first. Purely on how he could get his shopping the cheapest way possible.

[Massive Attack]

Yeah, whatever you say Wicked Witch of the West Ham.



As for moving on Kudus this summer, no one will convince me that was the right thing to do. Sure he was a pain in the arse but under the right management he would flourish and would be a serious asset to have in anyone's side. What you don't do is flog him on the relative cheap when his potential is so much higher. Dogshit Economics. And certainly not to your fierce London rivals!

[El Scorchio]

By the way I happened upon this article where Brady discusses selling Kudus to Spurs. (Assume she mentioned this on her interview- apologies if previously discussed)

Lies, lies and throwing the player under the bus to justify their actions.

It's just nasty.

https://ghanasoccernet.com/west-ham-vic ... s-to-spurs

Karren Brady, the vice-chair of West Ham United, has finally lifted the lid on Mohammed Kudus' departure from the London club. 

Kudus left the Hammers to join their London rivals Tottenham Hotspurs for a fee around £55m in the summer transfer window.

The 25-year-old hit the ground running since joining Spurs, contributing a brace of assists on his Premier League debut for the club.

Fans of West Ham have labelled the Ghanaian attacker as a traitor for leaving to join their London nemesis.

However, their vice-chair revealed the decision was purely financial and that the club had to 'do some trading'.

"It's always difficult to lose players that you want to keep. But the financial restraints and the PSR and all the rules and regulations in football mean that you have to do some trading," she told talkSPORT.

"That's just the way it is. All clubs are having to do it. You're either restricted on what you can buy because you have to be careful of the financial rules or you have to sell to try and buy. So that was the decision that was made," she added.

While revealing the decision was a financial one, she also admitted the player could not live up to his first season form.

[Kudus] didn't have a particularly good season for West Ham last year by his own standards. So we looked to move on," she said.

Kudus made 80 appearances for the Hammers and scored 19 goals before leaving the club in July.

Vague muddy reference to PSR which we know is bollocks and as well as 'all the rules and regulations' clearly ambiguously thrown in on the assumption we're all idiots. The only grain of truth there is that we were potless but she won't admit the damning truth.

Then she flip flops and says he was crap and THAT was the reason. Make up your mind. Essentially lying and saying there was nothing they could do to avoid selling him and he isn't any good to try and cover their own backs. 

[Massive Attack]

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

 

If it quacks its a duck mate.
Sometimes we over think things. If someone for 8 months has picked the same type of team with the same style of play and then makes JWP vice captain in the area where we need speed then its pretty obvious to me this is what he wants.

If he wanted something different he has had 2 windows to find it. He has Potts & Fearon as well. If he desperately needed to change it he could bring AWB centrally and put KWP as right wing back. He has options all over the fucking place. 

The reality is THIS is how he thinks football should be played. He’s had 8 months now, what dont you believe from your own eyes?

In some ways it’s classic Serie A style football from the 90s. Maybe he thinks it’s a counter to the way other PL teams work and he thinks that’s the best way to be successful. Whatever his reasons, how can you conclude any different from what he’s throwing out on the pitch week after week?

They haven't got him in a single midfielder since he's been here. All they've done is get rid of a few and are looking to get rid of more. If when he eventually gets one which is HIS choice- not Sullivans- and it's a plodder, then I'll say you're correct about this. However it won't be a plodder. It'll be a high energy young player, so I'm very confident I'll be saying you're incorrect about it.

*Correction

Potter chose ​​to prioritise the Kudus money on a new Left-Back and Goalkeeper first. If he was so keen to get in a new Midfielder then he would have prioritised accordingly. And even when he has a promising young Midfielder in Potts, he bottled to start him. 

[El Scorchio]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.





 

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

 

If it quacks its a duck mate.
Sometimes we over think things. If someone for 8 months has picked the same type of team with the same style of play and then makes JWP vice captain in the area where we need speed then its pretty obvious to me this is what he wants.

If he wanted something different he has had 2 windows to find it. He has Potts & Fearon as well. If he desperately needed to change it he could bring AWB centrally and put KWP as right wing back. He has options all over the fucking place. 

The reality is THIS is how he thinks football should be played. He’s had 8 months now, what dont you believe from your own eyes?

In some ways it’s classic Serie A style football from the 90s. Maybe he thinks it’s a counter to the way other PL teams work and he thinks that’s the best way to be successful. Whatever his reasons, how can you conclude any different from what he’s throwing out on the pitch week after week?

They haven't got him in a single midfielder since he's been here. All they've done is get rid of a few and are looking to get rid of more. If when he eventually gets one which is HIS choice- not Sullivans- and it's a plodder, then I'll say you're correct about this. However it won't be a plodder. It'll be a high energy young player, so I'm very confident I'll be saying you're incorrect about it.

[threesixty]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.




 

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

 

 

If it quacks its a duck mate.
Sometimes we over think things. If someone for 8 months has picked the same type of team with the same style of play and then makes JWP vice captain in the area where we need speed then its pretty obvious to me this is what he wants.

If he wanted something different he has had 2 windows to find it. He has Potts & Fearon as well. If he desperately needed to change it he could bring AWB centrally and put KWP as right wing back. He has options all over the fucking place. 

The reality is THIS is how he thinks football should be played. He’s had 8 months now, what dont you believe from your own eyes?

In some ways it’s classic Serie A style football from the 90s. Maybe he thinks it’s a counter to the way other PL teams work and he thinks that’s the best way to be successful. Whatever his reasons, how can you conclude any different from what he’s throwing out on the pitch week after week?

[Massive Attack]

All looks solid to me, Massive. But you do also have to add Aguerd, Cornet and Ward-Prowse back onto the wage bill. They were mostly off it last season - hence we had the capacity to bring Soler expensively etc.

I won’t pretend to be an expert on our accounts. But I can believe 100% the idea that we’re a bit of a financial shower. PSR, cash flow…whatever the reason, I can believe our board - which overspends on shite, under-invests in young talent etc and rewards crap agents - is not covering itself in glory.

 

 

I looked a bit deeper in to what the others are on here with 3 different sources saying the same wages for them..

Ward-Prowse £115k
Cornet £65k
Aguerd £50k

=230k

120 - Ings
115 - Ward-Prowse
100 - Antonio 
100 - Kudus
80 - Fabianski 
65 - Cornet
60 - Coufal
60 - Cresswell
​​​​50 - Aguerd 

=£750k

80 - Hermansen
80 - Diouf 
40 - Walker-Peters 
10+ - Wilson

=£210k

£540K to play with before any other sales, yet they want us to believe we cannot budget unless we sell someone else. Bullfuckingshit.

Dont forget Zouma (4?) LOL

I didn't include his wage because they were effectively off the wage bill out on loan anyway.

[Massive Attack]

I was calling for Mourinho a while back. Yes please, if he's the best we can get. He'd create a shitstorm that would be so fucking entertaining, even if it was just to finally destroy the BS Regime if the wheels came flying off. It just feels like a good fit for us both for the fans and himself. Cocky, funny, not afraid to upset the order, it just feels right. Sure there's the Chelsea connection but I did note how it ended sour upon one of his last returns there where he mugged off the ungrateful fans of the titles he helped win for them. I reckon it would piss their fanbase off to see him do well with us. Out of all the Chelsea gimp cսnt Managers we should have gone for, it was only him. 1 to watch maybe..

[David LE]

Fuck sake, I've been to the school of Sullivan Economics with my sums a bit there adding up..

120 - Ings
100 - Antonio 
100 - Kudus 
80 - Fabianski 
80 - Soler
60 - Coufal
60 - Cresswell 
​​​
=£600k

80 - Hermansen
80 - Diouf 
40 - Walker-Peters 
10+ - Wilson

=£210k

All looks solid to me, Massive. But you do also have to add Aguerd, Cornet and Ward-Prowse back onto the wage bill. They were mostly off it last season - hence we had the capacity to bring Soler expensively etc.

I won’t pretend to be an expert on our accounts. But I can believe 100% the idea that we’re a bit of a financial shower. PSR, cash flow…whatever the reason, I can believe our board - which overspends on shite, under-invests in young talent etc and rewards crap agents - is not covering itself in glory.

I looked a bit deeper in to what the others are on here with 3 different sources saying the same wages for them..

Ward-Prowse £115k
Cornet £65k
Aguerd £50k

=230k

120 - Ings
115 - Ward-Prowse
100 - Antonio 
100 - Kudus
80 - Fabianski 
65 - Cornet
60 - Coufal
60 - Cresswell
​​​​50 - Aguerd 

=£750k

80 - Hermansen
80 - Diouf 
40 - Walker-Peters 
10+ - Wilson

=£210k

£540K to play with before any other sales, yet they want us to believe we cannot budget unless we sell someone else. Bullfuckingshit.

Dont forget Zouma (4?) LOL

[El Scorchio]

Even if you assumed the loaning club were covering 100% of the wages of those players (they weren’t btw), we still shouldn’t have any barriers in regards to paying wages. It’s just more propaganda from the club.

I won’t argue that selling players helps, but loaning them with no obligation to buy is just nonsensical.

great bit of business for Jose though. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him rock up here one day, he’s got Sullivan written all over him.

Mourinho would scare the shit out of Sullivan. He'll never appoint someone so outspoken who would not hesitate to publicly call out his absolute bullshit and paint him as the incompetent, penny pinching shyster which is Sullivan's biggest fear. He'd probably openly dare him to fire him as well. It would be fucking entertaining. It would be an absolute nightmare for them. They'd never ever be able to succeed with their smear tactics against him. I'd love it. One of the big reasons Bilic went was he started to call out their bullshit,.but he's not anywhere near as powerful a voice as Jose.

'I wanted this player and this player, and the owner purposely shot down the deal and then tried to give me these players I don't want because of his agent friend. He promised me everything and this and delivered nothing.'

I'd love it if that happens. LOVE IT.

 

 

It won't happen but yeah, Jose Mourinho would fucking incinarate these owners but beforehand he would disembowel and eviseate that horrible teflon midget cսnt and his performative feminist sidekick.

It would be fucking superb. And all over the media everywhere. Ah we can dream....

[El Scorchio]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.




 

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

 

 

I agree completely. Of course he doesn't want to do that. Largely he's forced into doing it because what he wants to do absolutely demands a couple of fast high energy midfielders who can cover huge areas quickly and get up and down the park and the board seemingly are flatly so far refusing to get these players for him (no doubt after promising him his pick of them previously) It's the most important part in the way he wants to play and it just won't work without them. Teams just walk through us because the players in there are not good enough at the role they are needed to play.

Assume Sullivan knew that this is how Potter plays when he hired the man and was well aware of what he needed to recruit to make it work. What's the point in hiring him knowing this if you're not going to give him the tools to do it. Should Potter change the way he plays? Maybe, but Sullivan KNEW what sort of manager he was hiring so to get him in and then force him into changing his philosophy is just beyond stupid. 

Why did he pick Guido and JWP? No idea. It's clear now why he didn't pick wantaway Alvarez. The only logical reason I can think of is that it was a message to Sullivan. Get me those players you promised me or we are fucked. Not to defend her but part of me actually wonders if what Brady said on the radio about it being obvious we needed pace in there was a message to Sullivan. She's likely to be on Potter's side in this.

Anyway we've done it to death but it all comes down to little napoleon not giving his employees the tools they need and instead wasting what little resource we do have on shit like Callum Wilson and probably resigning Antonio for a cheap as chips deal to boot so neither gets lonely in the treatment room. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.



 

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

An interesting look at he opposite ends of the Cock Piss stages of grief.

Russ is still at stage one, denial.

360 has reached stage five, acceptance.

Other's are still bargaining a few signing will fix it. Most are just angry or depressed.

[Fauxstralian]

Didn’t Potter have Caicedo & McAllister as his Brighton midfield ?
Hard work , energy , control
I cant believe he wants a couple of slugs like Rodriquez & JWP in there by choice
Though he does keep picking them
And we won’t beat anyone if that continues 

[THUNDERCLINT]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.



 

 

 

Finally, someone gets it.

This isn't purgatory and a couple of midfields pay the roll and release us.

We skipped purgatory and went straight to hell.

He got one plan, it's boring, it's out of date and it's totally inflexible.

[eusebiovic]

Even if you assumed the loaning club were covering 100% of the wages of those players (they weren’t btw), we still shouldn’t have any barriers in regards to paying wages. It’s just more propaganda from the club.

I won’t argue that selling players helps, but loaning them with no obligation to buy is just nonsensical.

great bit of business for Jose though. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him rock up here one day, he’s got Sullivan written all over him.

Mourinho would scare the shit out of Sullivan. He'll never appoint someone so outspoken who would not hesitate to publicly call out his absolute bullshit and paint him as the incompetent, penny pinching shyster which is Sullivan's biggest fear. He'd probably openly dare him to fire him as well. It would be fucking entertaining. It would be an absolute nightmare for them. They'd never ever be able to succeed with their smear tactics against him. I'd love it. One of the big reasons Bilic went was he started to call out their bullshit,.but he's not anywhere near as powerful a voice as Jose.

'I wanted this player and this player, and the owner purposely shot down the deal and then tried to give me these players I don't want because of his agent friend. He promised me everything and this and delivered nothing.'

I'd love it if that happens. LOVE IT.

 

 

 

It won't happen but yeah, Jose Mourinho would fucking incinarate these owners but beforehand he would disembowel and eviseate that horrible teflon midget cսnt and his performative feminist sidekick.

[Russ of the BML]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.


 

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

[Massive Attack]

Moyes MK II. BS wet dream continues as we all suffer the nightmare.

[threesixty]

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.

 

[El Scorchio]

Even if you assumed the loaning club were covering 100% of the wages of those players (they weren’t btw), we still shouldn’t have any barriers in regards to paying wages. It’s just more propaganda from the club.

I won’t argue that selling players helps, but loaning them with no obligation to buy is just nonsensical.

great bit of business for Jose though. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him rock up here one day, he’s got Sullivan written all over him.

Mourinho would scare the shit out of Sullivan. He'll never appoint someone so outspoken who would not hesitate to publicly call out his absolute bullshit and paint him as the incompetent, penny pinching shyster which is Sullivan's biggest fear. He'd probably openly dare him to fire him as well. It would be fucking entertaining. It would be an absolute nightmare for them. They'd never ever be able to succeed with their smear tactics against him. I'd love it. One of the big reasons Bilic went was he started to call out their bullshit,.but he's not anywhere near as powerful a voice as Jose.

'I wanted this player and this player, and the owner purposely shot down the deal and then tried to give me these players I don't want because of his agent friend. He promised me everything and this and delivered nothing.'

I'd love it if that happens. LOVE IT.