Patriotism

[Exiled In Surrey]

A flag should be about pride. About unity. About celebrating who we are.That’s not what’s happening right now. These England flags going up everywhere?That’s not patriotism. That’s marking territory. That’s sending a message.And the message is ugly: “This is ours. You don’t belong here.”That isn’t pride. That’s fear. That’s exclusion. That’s racism dressed up as tradition.Real patriotism doesn’t slam the door in someone’s face. Real patriotism says: we are strong enough, proud enough, confident enough to welcome others in. To share our values — values of fairness, decency, tolerance — the values that have always made Britain worth being proud of.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. You betray our history. You betray the very idea of Britain.Because the truth is this: our flag should say we belong together. Not you stay out.

[Westside]

Is England better than France, Italy or Spain for example? If so on what  basis? 
 

Thousands cross in small boats from France to England. Perhaps ask them, why they think England is better than France?

[Swiss.]

There are many things I'm proud of for being English and many I'm ashamed of. I could never understand why someone thinks their country is better. Is England better than France, Italy or Spain for example? If so on what  basis? 

I think it's a big stupid and ignorant and arguably patriotism breeds hatred. 

[Eerie Decent]

Where in Surrey did you exile to?

Assuming you didn't fancy hanging about wherever you were before?

I reckon you're from the Billy Bragg school of pointing fingers from his mansion in the middle of whitesville.

[violator]

.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. 

The only weapon here, is you.

[Westside]

"“This is ours. You don’t belong here.”

Illegal immigrants don't belong here.

[XKhammer]

Another loony left thread
My flag of St George is now going up to piss off the likes of Exile thanks for the encouragement 

[Mike Oxsaw]

For centuries - millennia even - flags have always been territorial markers or emblems of support.

Why should anyone fear such an item reinforcing that claim?

In England, the English flag should command the respect of all who live in England and the society (singular) it represents.

It needs to be claimed back from the extremists whom the state allowed to appropriate it.

England is not invading England - although perhaps it needs to?

If those flag-flying ideals don't sit well with you, there are plenty of other nations for you to try out for size.

[only1billybonds]

EIS.

What would you consider is a reasonable amount of young men who don't share our culture and who have no legal right to be here be allowed to stay here? And how many hotels near you are occupied by 'new illegal arrivals'.
Not looking for a row,genuinely interested.

[BRANDED]

what would you say a pride flag or a Palestinian flag has been saying? 

'I'm a flag wanker?"

[goose]

another thread about this shit, just what we need.

do you have some random twitter links you could post as well??

[Council Scum]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 

You don't need too in future