The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[BRANDED]

Bottom line is, he always offered his opinion and views in a sensible and rational manner - And he always allowed people with differing views to air them and he would listen and respond accordingly but always rationally. 

Can someone advise us on how to debate with someone whose views are predicated on a god who has bestowed rights on people. How, for example, is believing your existence and actions are governed by a God at all rational?

 

 

ParsimonyThe parsimony principle (lex parsimoniae in Latin) is typically connected with classic Occam razor in philosophy, which states that entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity. Hence, whenever we have different explanations of the observed data, the simplest one is preferable.

God is by far the simplest.

[Lee Trundle]

The likes of Sven would be the first to kick up a stink over there if people like him get their gun taken away, and I don't.

[BRANDED]

Because they have a right to own a weapon 

Not shoot people.

 

[Fauxstralian]

Police have footage of the killer who appears to be of college age
They have recovered the weapon … a high powered bolt action rifle
In what universe does a citizen need such a weapon?
Has Trump announced control of entirely unnecessary weapons yet?
If not why not?

[One Sunny Day]

 

And what is this Christian perspective on homosexuality he took? Please tell us. Did it involve free will to be stoned to death?

 

hmmm, out of interest... what is you take on the hanging, stoning, & throwing-off buildings/mountains of homosexuals in certain Muslim countries?... that is fact, what Mr. Kirk said (or didn't say) was hearsay, would you not agree?

I wasn't a follower, he was too religious for me in his thinking that said, he always came across as reasoned & non-violent.

I think it's wrong and bad. Now back to what you think of this dead prick saying gays should be stoned to death?...

[Lee Trundle]

Have we found this stoning to death quote from the disgusting pig Kirk, who never committed a single crime or act of violence, yet?

I've just got to double check which way my compass should be pointing after seeing it..  

I'm probably as far from what this guy stood for a you can get. There is a clip of him talking about stoning homosexuals to death but it is easily taken out of context. It was part of a conversation with someone who had quoted a passage from the bible (which we don't hear) and his response was to quote the biblical text about stoning to death a man who lay with another man or some such. As ever when it comes to the bible a load of baloney but it wasn't presented as Kirk's opinion.

If that's the statement One Sunny They was thinking of when he came out with that, then he's part of the big problem.  He'd be peddling misinformation, like the mainstream media do.

But I'm hoping for They's sake, that They comes up with an actual statement cementing They's view (I hope that makes sense to all the normal people here).

[John Drake]

Have we found this stoning to death quote from the disgusting pig Kirk, who never committed a single crime or act of violence, yet?

I've just got to double check which way my compass should be pointing after seeing it..  

I'm probably as far from what this guy stood for a you can get. There is a clip of him talking about stoning homosexuals to death but it is easily taken out of context. It was part of a conversation with someone who had quoted a passage from the bible (which we don't hear) and his response was to quote the biblical text about stoning to death a man who lay with another man or some such. As ever when it comes to the bible a load of baloney but it wasn't presented as Kirk's opinion.

[THUNDERCLINT]

It doesn't actually really matter what Kirk's belief's were. Anyone on here or anywhere else stating his comments were inflammatory and hence almost saying "he had it coming" are woefully missing the point.

Bottom line is, he always offered his opinion and views in a sensible and rational manner - And he always allowed people with differing views to air them and he would listen and respond accordingly but always rationally. 

That's the problem. The extreme hard Left are incapable of logic, sense and rational when they are unable to argue back. 

Kirk gave millions of people a platform to debate. Whatever their views were. But ultimately, the views are irrelevant. Its the actions that count. And the actions of that shooter and some of the scum bags celebrating show you all you need to know about the state of the Left. 

2/1 the shooter turns out to be a retarded npc he made look ridiculous whose sub normal intellect couldn't cope with it's 15 minutes of shame.

[Massive Attack]

Have we found this stoning to death quote from the disgusting pig Kirk, who never committed a single crime or act of violence, yet?

I've just got to double check which way my compass should be pointing after seeing it..  

[Nutsin]

Charlie Kirk said that a few gun deaths was acceptable to keep gun laws as they are. I strongly disagree and am glad you now feel the same 

I think it would be wise if you just shut the fuck up until we find out who and why it happened.

To politicize it is disgusting, but then when it comes to you it’s not surprising. 

 

But here you were, emidiately blaming it on lefties, without any evidence 

Care to show me where I was blaming it on lefties?

I’ll wait.

[Come On You Irons]

No one deserves to die for expressing their beliefs but he sounds like a typical MAGA mouth breather with no respect for anyone not of his ilk
Like Trump 
He is hardly Martin Luther King is he?
Thats the Martin Luther King he described as a myth when telling us that enacting the Civil Rights Act was a ‘huge mistake’

What an appalling comment. A new depth sunk to by Sven, the fake plastic Aussie.

[only1billybonds]

Comma.

I very much doubt that Mr Kirk needed  God to tell him that there are only 2 genders and that men can't conceive.

[Massive Attack]

Oh yeah, that massive bigoted, misogynistic, racist God and his crew. Jesus Christ...

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Bottom line is, he always offered his opinion and views in a sensible and rational manner - And he always allowed people with differing views to air them and he would listen and respond accordingly but always rationally. 

Can someone advise us on how to debate with someone whose views are predicated on a god who has bestowed rights on people. How, for example, is believing your existence and actions are governed by a God at all rational?

[violator]

Didn't he quote a passage from the bible about it, or something like that?

[Lee Trundle]

Charlie Kirk publicly endorsed stoning people to death for being gay. The hypocrisy of some here, getting outraged at others not caring about his death, is a sight to behold.


 

One sunny day
Doubt he did that.  Can you back up that claim with an actual quote?

I, too, would like to see this, They-son?

[Pub Bigot]

Charlie Kirk publicly endorsed stoning people to death for being gay. The hypocrisy of some here, getting outraged at others not caring about his death, is a sight to behold.



 

He did not. He took a Christian perspective on homosexuality, and also believed in free will. Whether he believed being homosexual leads to damnation is another subject, but he has never endorsed violence. 

And what is this Christian perspective on homosexuality he took? Please tell us. Did it involve free will to be stoned to death?

You’re not very bright. If he took a stance of no violence, what do you think? 

Being a Christian, he sees all of mankind as being built in the image of God, and murdering someone, other than in defence would go against Gods will. 

If you’re not aware of his positions on things, you should stop commenting because you’re making yourself look a cսnt. 

[Mad Dog]

Charlie Kirk publicly endorsed stoning people to death for being gay. The hypocrisy of some here, getting outraged at others not caring about his death, is a sight to behold.

 

One sunny day
Doubt he did that.  Can you back up that claim with an actual quote?

[Massive Attack]

A fucking brave mouth breather if you ask me. Encourages anyone to debate him armed only with a deadly microphone in his hand. Whilst others had to resort to sniper rifles to defeat him is a tad unfair but hey, he's only got himself to blame for his 2nd amendment beliefs..

[Russ of the BML]

It doesn't actually really matter what Kirk's belief's were. Anyone on here or anywhere else stating his comments were inflammatory and hence almost saying "he had it coming" are woefully missing the point.

Bottom line is, he always offered his opinion and views in a sensible and rational manner - And he always allowed people with differing views to air them and he would listen and respond accordingly but always rationally. 

That's the problem. The extreme hard Left are incapable of logic, sense and rational when they are unable to argue back. 

Kirk gave millions of people a platform to debate. Whatever their views were. But ultimately, the views are irrelevant. Its the actions that count. And the actions of that shooter and some of the scum bags celebrating show you all you need to know about the state of the Left. 

[Lee Trundle]

but he sounds like a typical MAGA mouth breather with no respect for anyone not of his ilk

Don't you think that's an odd way to be disrespectful?

He gives people, like you, who disagree with him a stage in front of millions of people to put their point across.

It's not his fault you make yourself look stupid up there.

[Fauxstralian]

No one deserves to die for expressing their beliefs but he sounds like a typical MAGA mouth breather with no respect for anyone not of his ilk
Like Trump 
He is hardly Martin Luther King is he?
Thats the Martin Luther King he described as a myth when telling us that enacting the Civil Rights Act was a ‘huge mistake’

[Lee Trundle]

hmmm, out of interest... what is you take on the hanging, stoning, & throwing-off buildings/mountains of homosexuals in certain Muslim countries?.

It'll be "let them in, give them free money and housing, let them rape our kids".

[OK_Guy]

 

And what is this Christian perspective on homosexuality he took? Please tell us. Did it involve free will to be stoned to death?

 

 

hmmm, out of interest... what is you take on the hanging, stoning, & throwing-off buildings/mountains of homosexuals in certain Muslim countries?... that is fact, what Mr. Kirk said (or didn't say) was hearsay, would you not agree?

I wasn't a follower, he was too religious for me in his thinking that said, he always came across as reasoned & non-violent.

[Massive Attack]

Kirk was always prepared to die for his beliefs, so it's not some kind of gotcha moment when the gun 2nd amendment quote by him gets brought up. He'd probably be saying up there, fair enough, it was my time, unfortunately.