The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Lee Trundle]

I've got a horrible feeling the guy they've arrested isn't going to be this ninja mossad assassin the jew haters think it was.

[Massive Attack]

This apparently could be him losing a debate to Kirk a few months back Skye Valadez..



Reminds me a bit of Vexed.

Shouldn't you be out scrawling a cross on a mini roundabout with your own shit or something Mr Free Speech Patriot man? 

Guaranteed you're the same cunts that were smashing up 5G antennas to stop COVID spreading. 

I got jabbed you presumptuous cսnt, so not in to mad conspiracy theories like 5G antenna Covid guff. So you're not very good at this assumptions lark.... I do however love the thought of you getting easily triggered and vexed whenever you clock a patriotic flag or mini roundabout though.

[OK_Guy]

funny how you never see signs stating 'free the hostages to stop the suffering', just an observation.

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One Billy, I agree that taking and holding on to Israeli hostages has been a large contributor to the excessive Palestinian death toll. If you and I were to debate the issue we would do so armed with numerous facts that were not mentioned in the Spiked article you posted up.

Just imagine what your response would be if someone posted up a different point of view which highlighted the kill rate and infrastructure devastation caused b the IDF without mentioning the original Hamas incursion, killing over a thousand Jews combined with hostage taking, that started this conflagration.

[BRANDED]

USA
0.00005 gun deaths per person

UK
0.0000007 gun deaths per person

I read something about the number of unhinged nutters on the streets of the USA due to all kinds of factors but mostly not removing them like they might have in the past. Anyway it was in the millions. The argument was that the police and the authorities do little about this and so people resort to carrying a hidden gun as a last resort. In other words they are taking responsibility for their own safety as the authorities aren't. 

This all seems completely alien to us but as the police and authorities in the UK seem to be travelling down a similar path I think people would think more of how they would protect themselves when they are left on their own to do so.

 

[Vexed]

This apparently could be him losing a debate to Kirk a few months back Skye Valadez..



Reminds me a bit of Vexed.

Shouldn't you be out scrawling a cross on a mini roundabout with your own shit or something Mr Free Speech Patriot man? 

Guaranteed you're the same cunts that were smashing up 5G antennas to stop COVID spreading. 

[Westside]

Of course criminals will always get guns
So is the answer to allow every citizen, every nutter, every dangerous mental case to have one (or more)?
Mentioned before the number of gun related deaths in Cowboy Land compared to civilised nations
How many schools have been shot up and children murdered in the US compared to every other nation?
Dunblane … was that 30 years ago? Any others in the UK?

Saw a MAGA women saying you couldn’t compare Kirk’s shooting to school shootings because the former was ‘a tragedy’ because he had family. Not sure what she imagined dead children had.

England and Wales approach. Strict licencing of firearms, whole classes of gun ownership (pistols, assault weapons) banned. 22 gunshot murders in the year to March 2024 (most recent year available).

USA approach. Virtual unfettered access to firearms, firearms homicides in 2023, just under 18,000.

Wonder, which approach works best?

[Fauxstralian]

Of course criminals will always get guns
So is the answer to allow every citizen, every nutter, every dangerous mental case to have one (or more)?
Mentioned before the number of gun related deaths in Cowboy Land compared to civilised nations
How many schools have been shot up and children murdered in the US compared to every other nation?
Dunblane … was that 30 years ago? Any others in the UK?

Saw a MAGA women saying you couldn’t compare Kirk’s shooting to school shootings because the former was ‘a tragedy’ because he had family. Not sure what she imagined dead children had.

[Come On You Irons]

The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

Clearly you're just another sickening anti semitic leftie loon and just as moronic as the right wing conspiracy theorists loons 

You're a moron. Charlie Kirk was calling out Jews hence the suspected Mossad elimination.

I'm no anti-semite. I hate all religions.

[goose]

"perp"

[XKhammer]

The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

Clearly you're just another sickening anti semitic leftie loon and just as moronic as the right wing conspiracy theorists loons 

[Come On You Irons]

The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Won't help at all.

If you're in the "criminal fraternity", one of your acquaintances will "know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody" who can get you (YOU) a gun. No questions, just lay the money down."

Yes, but you don't get nut job mass shootings in the UK, with illegal firearms beacuse of our firearms laws. Criminals will always get guns as you describe and innocents will get caught in the crossfire, but nut jobs don't do mass shootings with illegally obtained firearms, in the UK. If guns were so easy to obtain in the UK, don't you think some of the terrorist atrocities with knives and cars, would have been with guns?

So perhaps the question should be "Who is responsible for allowing these nut-jobs to proliferate and circulate in society?"

[Westside]

"Won't help at all.

If you're in the "criminal fraternity", one of your acquaintances will "know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody" who can get you (YOU) a gun. No questions, just lay the money down."

Yes, but you don't get nut job mass shootings in the UK, with illegal firearms beacuse of our firearms laws. Criminals will always get guns as you describe and innocents will get caught in the crossfire, but nut jobs don't do mass shootings with illegally obtained firearms, in the UK. If guns were so easy to obtain in the UK, don't you think some of the terrorist atrocities with knives and cars, would have been with guns?

[Massive Attack]

No one is claiming ALL Lefties are celebrating, just a lot of them. So anyone that is needs to sort their fucking own out by calling them out. The bile is predominantly from the Left aimed at the Right and to the point they're actively trying and on occasions successfully killing those for holding conservative and Christian beliefs. 

The Right have actually kept their shit together and not lost their minds like the Left revealed themselves after the BLM riots. Instead they hold vigils. That's been the level of difference in reaction. Sort your own out, so called "Liberal" Lefties...
 

[only1billybonds]

Comma.

Not going to get into the whole Palestine debate but let's just say many many thousands would still be alive had the Israeli hostages been released.

[Sydney_Iron]

Some of the comments and celebrations at Kirks murder is sickening and vile BUT its also coming to light that a lot of disinformation is being spread, some may be coming from China and Russia (see link at bottom) who would love to see some chaos and disorder in America and will use this to fan the flames.

Even some far right wing types are posting stuff to get the masses going, even pretending to be celebrating lefties, multiple and fake accounts only serve to get more attention of fighting the left and as far as im concerned the far right is just as fucked up and dangerous as the far left, so as disgusting and outrageous as this killing is im not jumping the gun that ALL lefties are in celebration mode and hope we see some calm and rational thought before individuals or the US government takes any action.

We live in truly fucked up times

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirks- ... ce-2128699

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Onebilly, read that spiked article and have to say it was a typicall one sided view of an event and its aftermath. No mention at all of the still ongoing response by Netanyahu’s forces and the colossal loss of life that has ensued.

[Takashi Miike]

[Mike Oxsaw]

Fine for people to target shoot if that’s something they enjoy at a rifle club
Just needs the guns to be locked away at the club when you want to go and use them
Any sensible reason that these sort of weapons need to leave the gun club?
When they are they get into the hands of dangerous mental people & you have events such as this 




 

Won't help at all.

If you're in the "criminal fraternity", one of your acquaintances will "know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody" who can get you (YOU) a gun. No questions, just lay the money down.

[Fauxstralian]

Fine for people to target shoot if that’s something they enjoy at a rifle club
Just needs the guns to be locked away at the club when you want to go and use them
Any sensible reason that these sort of weapons need to leave the gun club?
When they are they get into the hands of dangerous mental people & you have events such as this 



 

[Takashi Miike]

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/kirks-m ... isemitism/

 

[only1billybonds]

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/1 ... -the-left/


Brendan O' Neils piece in Spiked on  Charlie Kirk.

[Takashi Miike]

[Takashi Miike]